When to start? Now or wait?

jonathan7007

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I teach therefore have a little time for building now. Next opportunity is New Year but perhaps a whole year away. However, if there are big changes in CPUs and mobos coming I'd consider waiting. An example of a mobo change is the arrival (on shipping mobos) of USB3. More about the needs I'd build to support are below.

If I do not build I continue to put up with a WinXP Home socket478 P4 3.4 with 3Gig RAM, which does OK at all these tasks (but my perception of that is skewed by not having tried out a faster platform.) This is an Intel 875DPZ late-2003 mobo. Some flaky behavior on this system might be the graphics card, a EVGAnVidia 7600 AGP. Directories in WinExplorer take a long time to appear. Perhaps the memory, too.

I have really wrung a lot out of this machine over the years!

Using the template suggested:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: summer 2009
BUDGET RANGE: about $1500 but somewhat flexible

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Photoshop, Lightroom, Flash experimentation, Sims3 (my daughter's game) website development (low tech stuff), Lesson development, and last-- games like TotalWar, which I play only occasionally.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: mouse, monitor, speakers, OS (I have a legal Vista business DVD)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, or Amazon

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel processors, large case for easy updates and maintenance.

OVERCLOCKING: Naaah. One appropriate graphics card is fine.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 -- a Gateway 24" that rotates. I love doing web research with pages in portrait.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would like a quiet PC but that's hard to do with the required fans. This machine will be placed in the living room. It will NOT ever have to do duty as a home theater unit. Probably won't bother with RAID, although a NAS box seems like a good idea for the future so my two Mac users in the house can back up over Ethernet -- and I would do that, too.

There are still enough issues with everyday use of Vista 64 that I'd stay with Vista 32 even though having huge memory would make Photoshop move better.

So, again, it seems that the issues are the Intel roadmap and the arrival of USB3.

Intel:
From my reading on the THW forums so far I'd buy the i-920. I see this as a bit of future-proofing because as the processors moved along perhaps I'd buy a faster unit for that socket. Is the whole i-series all in the same socket so I could do this in a few years?

USB3:
There's always eSATA right in the front of the case, and I might be putting two small eSATA hard drives in enclosures for my digital photography workflow so will find the time to get those connections into an easy place on this "desktop".

My old P4 would become a print server for a Canon photo printer.

Ideas? Reactions? Futures worth waiting for?

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jonathan7007

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A quick addition to those elements for which one could delay to be able to take advantage:

faster FSB and (related)
faster memory

jonathan7007
 
There's always something new coming out in a few months. Get what you can afford today. It's not like you have suffered much from lack of tech with your 4-5 year old system.

I7 920 and Asus P6T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213700

DDR3 6GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381

Antec P183 case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129061&Tpk=P183

Corsair 650TX PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=650TX
Quiet, enough power.

Sapphire 4870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
You may end up setting the fan to a manual 33% to reduce noise... will still run cool at that.
 

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Here's how I see upgrades, if you wait, current tech will be cheaper than it is now and its up in the air what will be available as options when you do buy. If you build now, then you will get more life out of the platform you choose and if there are options you want, like the usb 3.0, then I'm sure add on cards can make it happen.

As for the future of intel sockets, no, not all i line processors will be socket LGA 1366. In fact, the i5 due to release Q4 (I think) is LGA 1156. It won't be as powerfull as the i7, but more of a mainstream line that will be cheaper. Much like comparing the X48 chipsets to the P45.

If you're trying to be more budget conscious, I'd wait till at least the i5s hit and see what performance you can accomplish for the price then. The i7s will probably drop in price then also.

If you do upgrade, you can use the P4 for your NAS though it might be higher on power consuption than needs be.