Which CPU for New Gaming PC Build?

[ChadPhillips]

G'day everyone,

First time builder here looking for a bit of clarity. I want to build a PC to start playing some games, particularly Rust at the moment. Been looking for a budgetish-mid level PC that will utilise some new parts and some second hand, to get that edge with price/performance. Guess I want the best of both worlds like everyone, a decent PC for low cost. I am in Australia btw.

Have been looking around patiently at CPU's, whichever one I get of course will change the other parts I intend on using based on what is compatible. The CPU's I'm most interested in are;

- i7 4930k
- i5-4690k All of these I can pick up 2nd hand for ~$200 AUD.
- i5 6500

- i5 6600k Going for $50-70 more.

I am interested in overclocking, but it is not a make or break decision. I just figure that it keeps me in the game longer as the parts get older. Obviously the 6500 doesn't OC unless I backdate a BIOS and get a 'Z' MoBo, which seems like a lot of hassle for a n00b.

What do people think? Trying to find a balance between using older parts that were more high end that can still compete potentially with the money thing and performance factor in 2017. Would love to hear any and all opinions.

 

[toshibitsu]

The i5-4690k is a good solid cpu and has a bit better performance then the i5-6600k. Well, the 6600k has a slight advantage with integrated graphics... but obviously you're going to use a separate gpu.
So, I'd stick with the 4690k

 

[TennoSkoom]

I highly recommend you go with an AMD Ryzen cpu they are cheaper than Intel Cpus and much more powerful.
You must get the Amd Ryzen 7 1700 It's only 300usd and it's better than all the CPUs you listed.
Here's a link for it:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD1700BBAEBOX/dp/B06WP5YCX6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499450318&sr=1-1&keywords=ryzen+7+1700
And in this video he's comparing the ryzen 7 1700 and the i5 6600k and the fps is nearly the same but if you look closely you can see that the cpu usage on the intel chip is 90% most of the time while on the ryzen chip never exceeds 40% and that just proves how amazing the ryzen Cpus are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0yfX8161M
And btw you should keep in mind that Ryzen is still a new architecture which means It'll only get better and more powerful with updates in the future.

 

[ChadPhillips]

I highly recommend you go with an AMD Ryzen cpu they are cheaper than Intel Cpus and much more powerful.
You must get the Amd Ryzen 7 1700 It's only 300usd and it's better than all the CPUs you listed.
Here's a link for it:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD1700BBAEBOX/dp/B06WP5YCX6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499450318&sr=1-1&keywords=ryzen+7+1700
And in this video he's comparing the ryzen 7 1700 and the i5 6600k and the fps is nearly the same but if you look closely you can see that the cpu usage on the intel chip is 90% most of the time while on the ryzen chip never exceeds 40% and that just proves how amazing the ryzen Cpus are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0yfX8161M
And btw you should keep in mind that Ryzen is still a new architecture which means It'll only get better and more powerful with updates in the future.

The Ryzen 7 1700 is $430 AUD. If I had that amount in my budget I wouldn't be sifting through 2nd hand options and asking for advice as to how best stretch my budget.

AMD is also a noted poor performer on Rust and many other games which haven't been optimised for AMD as far as I've read and heard too. Think I'm going to steer clear... appreciate the response though.

 

[ChadPhillips]

The i5-4690k is a good solid cpu and has a bit better performance then the i5-6600k. Well, the 6600k has a slight advantage with integrated graphics... but obviously you're going to use a separate gpu.
So, I'd stick with the 4690k

Thanks man. Have seen gamers streaming and playing high FPS with this older gen CPU which shocked me. This is where I kind of 'discvovered' this CPU, hadn't considered it before then. Just a shame about the cryptomining craze going on right now in terms of GPU prices, really picked a shit time to want to start my first build

 

[TennoSkoom]

well if you're looking for a cheaper alternative than go with the ryzen 5 1500x it's cheaper and great with games
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD150XBBAEBOX/dp/B06XKVNRSM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499451662&sr=8-1&keywords=ryzen+5+1500

 

[ChadPhillips]

well if you're looking for a cheaper alternative than go with the ryzen 5 1500x it's cheaper and great with games
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD150XBBAEBOX/dp/B06XKVNRSM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499451662&sr=8-1&keywords=ryzen+5+1500

I'm really not keen on AMD, I really want to play Rust and as I said, a lot of people are reporting terrible results even with higher end processors. As well as this, on other games the performance is comparable, so there doesn't seem to be a lot of benefit there for me. Doesn't seem like a good option unless I want to stream/do other tasks simultaneously which I won't be doing, I'm really only starting out in the PC gaming world.

 

[toshibitsu]

I had gotten the Ryzen 7 1700 for my main desktop recently. Fry's matched a price on Amazon for $296 ($389 AUD). It is a nice cpu... but definitely more expensive.

The Ryzen 5 1500x does seem to be better then the i5-4690k... however, you will then need to get a new motherboard and memory. So the i5-4690k is still your best bet for what you're looking for(price wise).

 

[ChadPhillips]

I had gotten the Ryzen 7 1700 for my main desktop recently. Fry's matched a price on Amazon for $296 ($389 AUD). It is a nice cpu... but definitely more expensive.

The Ryzen 5 1500x does seem to be better then the i5-4690k... however, you will then need to get a new motherboard and memory. So the i5-4690k is still your best bet for what you're looking for(price wise).

How much better do you think the 1500x is? Seems negligible from a lot of things I've read unless your PC is for multi-purpose rather than strictly gaming.

What's your opinion on how well the 4690k stacks up moving forward? I don't want it to be a shit CPU in a years time you know? That's where I'm trying to find a balance between older hardware/price and performance. A lot of people think their 4960k is equal - better than a lot of the new CPU's as they haven't advanced as quickly as other hardware.