[SOLVED] Which processor will be best for better performanceand long-term use?

[msrsuvo]

I want to build a new pc for long-term use.
My choices are Ryzen 7 or intel i7 latest processor. And which mobo will be better for this processor for long-term use.

What I do with my pc-
I do web development work, Simple Graphics design related works (Photoshop & illustrator), others regular uses of Pc and a little bit gamin. I use my pc everyday average 12hrs.

Currently I am using-
2nd gen i5 with b75 mobo,8x2 1600 bus ram, 240gb ssd & 1TB HDD.
And doing all of the mentioned works with this pc.

Thanks in advance

 

[Nemesia]

What is your budget for the system and in what currency?

 

[msrsuvo]

What is your budget and in what currency?

I will set the budget depends on the qualit. Without GPU & Monitor currently thinking about not more then 80,000BDT. But it's not final budget.

 

[Nemesia]

I will set the budget depends on the qualit. Without GPU & Monitor currently thinking about not more then 80,000BDT. But it's not final budget.

So you're gonna need a CPU with integrated graphics. Any Ryzen without a G like the 3200G won't work without a GPU.

 

[msrsuvo]

So you're gonna need a CPU with integrated graphics. Any Ryzen without a G like the 3200G won't work without a GPU.

I said the budget without GPU. I will fix budget for the GPU later. And this budget is only for CPU, Mobo, Ram & SSD.

 

[Nemesia]

I said the budget without GPU. I will fix budget for the GPU later. And this budget is only for CPU, Mobo, Ram & SSD.

Thanks let me get you back on this in a few minutes.

 

[Nemesia]

For not that higher than your budget you can get something like this for the parts you wanted in that budget. You wanted something that will last you a few years. Why not go with the 12 Cores 3900X, 32GB of RAM 3600MHz.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($434.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ B&H)
Total: $997.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-16 06:41 EDT-0400

 

[tech_akshay]

I always trust Intel. It produces horses for long races.

Firstly, if you want to go with the Ryzen 7 processor then the possible mobos are:

1. ASUS ROG Strix series
2. Asus ROG Crosshair

3, Gigabyte Aorus Pro
All of them are equipped with B450 chipset which is good for both casual gaming and graphic designing.

Secondly, possibly the better between these two options, If you want to go with Intel i7 latest(9700k) processor then the possible mobos are:
1. Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Z390

1. Gigabyte Auros Gaming Z370
2. Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero - the best from Asus for the avid gaming experience.

Personally, I would go with the second processor-mobos combination.

 

[msrsuvo]

For not that higher than your budget you can get something like this for the parts you wanted in that budget. You wanted something that will last you a few years. Why not go with the 12 Cores 3900X, 32GB of RAM 3600MHz.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($434.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ B&H)
Total: $997.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-16 06:41 EDT-0400

Some questions-
- As I don’t know because of it I am asking - is Ryzen 9 will be better then intel i9 for long-term use? Currently I am using my i5 2nd gen from last 8 years.

- Will this ram will be better then Corsair vengeance RGB pro?

- And Samsung Evo pro 256gb will be better then this SSD?

Thanks

 

[Nemesia]

Some questions-
- As I don’t know because of it I am asking - is Ryzen 9 will be better then intel i9 for long-term use? Currently I am using my i5 2nd gen from last 8 years.

- Will this ram will be better then Corsair vengeance RGB pro?

- And Samsung Evo pro 256gb will be better then this SSD?

Thanks

If the only thing you want to do with your system is play games I would choose Intel right now. SInce you're not gonna only play games and you're gonna use your computer as a workstation The Ryzen 9 3900X will be a lot better.

The new Intel CPU are releasing this year but they won't be supported by same socket. So no update possible for you in the future if you buy an i9 right now. AMD x570 board will support the new CPU. So in the future if you want to buy a Ryzen 4000 series you will be able to.

The RAM can be changed if you want. Corsair Vengeance RGB has some flashy light on them. If they are 3600MHz CL16 it's good.

For the SSD it depends on how much space you want. Do you want 1 SSD for your OS of like 256GB/512GB and 1 SSD for your games and applications? Do you have an HDD for storage or something?

 

[msrsuvo]

If the only thing you want to do with your system is play games I would choose Intel right now. SInce you're not gonna only play games and you're gonna use your computer as a workstation The Ryzen 9 3900X will be a lot better.

The new Intel CPU are releasing this year but they won't be supported by same socket. So no update possible for you in the future if you buy an i9 right now. AMD x570 board will support the new CPU. So in the future if you want to buy a Ryzen 4000 series you will be able to.

The RAM can be changed if you want. Corsair Vengeance RGB has some flashy light on them. If they are 3600MHz CL16 it's good.

For the SSD it depends on how much space you want. Do you want 1 SSD for your OS of like 256GB/512GB and 1 SSD for your games and applications? Do you have an HDD for storage or something?

I am going to buy 3TB HDD soon!

 

[mitch074]

Intel is rehashing 5 years old technology now. If you work, Ryzen is better and longer lasting. Personally I recommend ASRock B450 mobos because they are cheap, stable and well supported, but Asus X570 are good - if expensive. The 3900X is great, but I'll wait for it's Zen3 successor to replace my 2700X. I do web dev too, more cores is better.

 

[msrsuvo]

And can you also suggest me something on this-
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/which-psu-will-best.3594007/

Thank you

 

[sizzling]

None of us know the future. We can only make our best guess. I was in a similar position 6 months ago looking 9700k & 3700x but my pc is 90% gaming and 10% heavy spreadsheets and I settled on the 3700x. I do have spreadsheets that max out all 16 threads and I have games that can use 12 threads. I know for my spreadsheets the 3700x is faster now and confident it will continue to be. As for gaming I made an educated guess, at 1440p the difference between CPU’s is negligible but I feel having extra threads is a better long term option. We saw with Intel quad core/thread CPU’s age poorly and I feel the signs are there that the hex core/threads are going to go the same way in the next year or two. With games already able to use 8, 12 or more threads I do question how the i7 will stand up in 3+ years. This is pure speculation but how I made my decision.

 

[geofelt]

In what way is your current pc not doing the job?
What is the make/model of your current parts if you intend to reuse what you can on a new build.?

Can you forecast what new tasks you might be using this new build for in the future?
Most of us can not, at least with any degree of certainty.

For that reason, I suggest building for what you know you will need for now, and for perhaps a year out.
Plan on being able to change parts to upgrade as necessary.

Today, for example, you could replace your 1tb HDD with a ssd that will make a huge difference in your everyday performance.
Such an upgraded part can be carried over to the future.
If, for example, you bought a 1tb samsung 860 evo, you could use the samsung ssd migration app to move your windows C drive to the HDD. Then, you could repurpose the HDD to be used as external backup.
You DO have external backup, I hope.

2nd gen I5 processors are not fast.
But a used i7 upgrade might make sense.

What is the make/model of your graphics card/adapter?
Photoshop can use the CUDA capabilities of discrete nvidia graphics cards. The number of such CUDA entities is more important than the gaming capabilities.

What is the make/model of your psu?
If it is an older or cheap unit, replace it regardless.
Buy a quality psu of sufficient wattage to handle future upgrades.
A psu will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.

Photoshop likes lots of ram.
You might want to read this on photoshop recommendations:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/recomm...-Adobe-Photoshop-139/Hardware-Recommendations

If you have no budget restrictions, go ahead and buy the strongest setup you can.
If you have a case that you hate, go ahead and buy a good looking replacement.

I do not know your currency not where you might shop.