Who's tried Windows 10 and then decided to stick to Win7? Why?

[Rafael Mestdag]

After trying Windows 10 for at least a year now, and after so many bugs and incomatibility I finally threw in the towel: I decided to stick with Windows 7 at least until they sort out all the bugs in Windows 10(Which should probably take at least a year).

What about you? Is this your case too?

 

[nplagma]

Win8 and 10 are Microsoft trying to have one OS for every platform. I don't want a cell phone OS on my desktop, and I don't want you to try to be like Macs and idiot proof everything- you're not good at it Microsoft. Win10 is a pain in the a**, I can't take more than 5 minutes of it. Same with Win8.

 

[rmatraining]

I have one desktop and three laptops in the family, all presently on Win 10. The first upgrade was horrendous because of blue screen issues, bad updates, etc. I waited a few months and tried again. Things have gone well since and all are running fine, but I will roll one back so I can play older games I like. Compatibility with older programs is the only issue I have.

 

[osdpotf1]

I updated my main system to W10 and have had numerous problems:

1. Constant crashes - after a few months on W10 I started to see the new BSOD which I never saw before! It was memory errors or other errors that led me down a rabbit hole to nowhere. In the end, increasing voltage on my RAM was the answer. Who knew (NOT OVERCLOCKED RAM).

2. NO MEDIA CENTER - I know this is a "niche" product for a "niche" market that consists of less than 1% of all Windows users, but I have a cable card, I have devices that I bought so that I could ditch comcast (except for football season GRR) and still DVR stuff (Meet the Press, PBS Kids stuff etc.). I have tried to get KODI and other solutions to work without any success. I am not a noob, I build computers and maintain them for others as a business. WMC is the best media center software that was ever created, and MS threw it away.

3. Old Games - I have the same issues that others have identified with older games. I also adhere to the philosophy that others have stated that you can't expect ancient software to work forever. I expect these issues will be worked out the same way they were when XP games wouldn't run on 7.

4. BUGS - Task bar issues, start button issues, cortana issues, etc. I have experienced TONS of bugs. I have friends and family who happily declare they have seen none of this, and then say, "except I had to set up a new user account to fix X" or "after the last update I've had no problems!" Obviously others have had some of these issues, I've read about them on the interwebs and experienced them myself.

Overall, W10 is a great OS. It makes sense, it's fast, and allows for plenty of customization. Where it fails is it is still schizophrenic (check out settings under start and compare to control panel, why two places?), it forces drivers that you don't want, it misdiagnoses issues and forces reboots.

I love ChromeOS. It just works, right out of the box. Obviously, we can't game on that.

I also love the customization that comes with Linux, but it is a tinker toy for geeks!

I have not used apple's OS since 1994ish. I can't give an honest assessment, but I know I don't like closed systems.

Windows is the default, as someone pointed out, for games. That is my main reason for being on Windows. The other reason was WMC which has been killed. But I still have 7 running on my HTPC for that reason. Until I can find a suitable replacement for Games and DVR, MS will be on my payroll.

 

[Microgoddess]

I don't like the whole burgeoning trend toward software thinking for me. Windows 7 was bad enough but I taught it who's boss. (Access-denied, indeed!) Windows 10 is much harder to housebreak. I have one copy since I have to support other people, but it's on a computer that dual-boots to Win7 for my own use.

 

[wdsaari]

What bugs and incompatibility did you experience?

Failure to boot. Failure of Windows repair options. Third party repair software worked until Windows update made it obsolete. Microsoft is a malignancy.

 

[Inachu]

For me Windows 10 was about 5% slower on the very same pc with games. So I removed 10 and reinstalled windows 7 professional.

Oh and you said you disabled the ads in Windows 10? Microsoft will re enable those ads since you got Windows 10 for free.

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

I've upgraded multiple machines, downgraded some too.

While I like some of the ideas in 10, it brings very little to the table in terms of benefits to offset the things it takes away.

Some of us use the Calculator program on occasion. I don't have to keep a desktop calculator on hand or use my telephone. The removal of a great, lightweight calculator which requires zero investment from Microsoft in terms of time or money in lieu of a slow, ugly, lesser replacement doesn't show good forward thinking. This doesn't benefit users but instead looks like an agenda of pushing universal apps down people's throats whether they like them or not.

I am in the niche that uses Windows Media Center. The other options are not viable and people peddling them misunderstand the difference.

Windows 10 is slower. Coming from Windows 8.x, Windows 10 runs noticeably more background work and chews through far more CPU cycles on lightweight machines.

Windows 10 automatic forced updates chew through a lot of bandwidth and can't be postponed on wired connections. Not everybody has access to a high bandwidth internet connection with a high cap for monthly usage. Imagine having 1 or more Windows 10 machines saturating a connection to perform required updates during the middle of the day when other people are trying to use the same internet connection. Windows 10 has zero compunction in terms of saturating all available bandwidth to perform it's updates.

The sharing of Windows updates over the local network doesn't seem to work, or is so picky that updates for nearly identical machines can't be shared, so all bandwidth for updates still goes through the internet, rather than sharing already downloaded updates between machines. Am I missing something or does the feature not work?

When I close a window, such as Task Manager, and it was aligned to the edge of the screen, I want it to reopen that way. I don't like that it has to be re-snapped each and every time I open it.

I can't stand the dark theme, period. The ability to customize the color scheme in Windows 10 is just plain lacking.

I do not like the new Start menu. I didn't miss it when it was gone and wasn't asking for it back. It's less useful than the Metro Start Page, and quite a bit buggier. On many installations I've seen it didn't work until a fresh install was performed. Sometimes it lags when trying to open it, sometimes it opens and is empty. That's pretty bad QA right there.

I like DirectX 12. Since I'm not currently playing any DX 12 titles, I have zero use for it. I will second the notion that Vulcan appears as a better alternative, as it's not vendor locked to a single system.

I don't really care about the flat look or the Aero look. Am I the only one that thought the Windows GUI should have been skinnable for the last fifteen years? Why not simply let every user have the option to customize as they see fit, or even pick from a gallery of professionally done interfaces? Since I bought my computer equipment, I would appreciate a little input as to how it looks.

I do not like the universal app settings. There are times when I want to have more than one different settings window open at the same time. You can't do this in Windows 10.

I do not like that the scroll bars are always disappearing in Windows 10. It's counter intuitive from a usability standpoint to have the visual cue of things being scrollable taken away. What happened to proper GUI design?

I have downgraded for usability on machines that don't have the CPU resources to handle the excess CPU usage, for bandwidth reasons, and because I just don't like it.

I have held off on upgrading machines that clearly have incompatibilities with Windows 10.

Windows 10 is not a one size fits all and never will be.

 

[rmatraining]

I can appreciate your frustration. I experienced the same things in the first download, but things seem to be in good shape now. I have helped two neighbors get upgraded this past week. One went smoothly and the other got that endless circling arrow. I had to do a repair with a Win 10 recovery flash drive and select "Do Upgrades Later" to get it to work. Everything is fine since.

The only issue I have have is lack of compatibility with older games. I am keeping one laptop with Win 7 for those.

 

[VelcroFace]

Really wanted to love Windows 10, but after a year of struggles and compromises, I've gone back to Windows 7. Windows 10 looks as if it was designed for tablets and phones, but I'm running a desktop. I want solid desktop applications, not stripped-down Windows Store "apps." Even a year after its release, the OS feels unfinished. The Windows 7 Media Player puts Groove to shame. Edge looks ugly and feels crippled. Settings are a confusing mess.

On the plus side, the Windows 10 (clean) installation went smoothly, with the OS installing most of the required drivers. The only drivers I had to manually install were the chipset and the Marvell SATA drivers, which I downloaded from the ASUS website. However, the hard drives I had configured as RAID 0 on the Marvell SATA ports showed up as a removable device. None of the rear USB 3.0 ports would connect with my card reader or external RAID device. I had some issues with two Epson multifunction printers, but driver updates fixed that.

What really made me throw in the towel is that the eSATA connections in Windows 10 were flaky. My external RAID 5 drive kept disconnecting. Eventually, it became corrupted to the point where the system refused to see it. Windows "chkdsk" couldn't repair the damage. The MFT was wiped out. I managed to recover everything using EaseUS Data Recovery, but that took two days of nail biting. Maybe I was just lucky, but these issues never occurred in Windows 7. That's the OS my hardware was designed for, and frankly I don't see much advantage in "upgrading."

 

[jimmysmitty]

Really wanted to love Windows 10, but after a year of struggles and compromises, I've gone back to Windows 7. Windows 10 looks as if it was designed for tablets and phones, but I'm running a desktop. I want solid desktop applications, not stripped-down Windows Store "apps." Even a year after its release, the OS feels unfinished. The Windows 7 Media Player puts Groove to shame. Edge looks ugly and feels crippled. Settings are a confusing mess.

On the plus side, the Windows 10 (clean) installation went smoothly, with the OS installing most of the required drivers. The only drivers I had to manually install were the chipset and the Marvell SATA drivers, which I downloaded from the ASUS website. However, the hard drives I had configured as RAID 0 on the Marvell SATA ports showed up as a removable device. None of the rear USB 3.0 ports would connect with my card reader or external RAID device. I had some issues with two Epson multifunction printers, but driver updates fixed that.

What really made me throw in the towel is that the eSATA connections in Windows 10 were flaky. My external RAID 5 drive kept disconnecting. Eventually, it became corrupted to the point where the system refused to see it. Windows "chkdsk" couldn't repair the damage. The MFT was wiped out. I managed to recover everything using EaseUS Data Recovery, but that took two days of nail biting. Maybe I was just lucky, but these issues never occurred in Windows 7. That's the OS my hardware was designed for, and frankly I don't see much advantage in "upgrading."

You don't have to use the "apps". In fact one of your "issues" I find funny because the same WMP that Windows 7 has is in Windows 8/8.1 and 10. I used it but switched to Groove as it was better at finding and recognizing music data than WMP.

And Edge technically is "crippled" compared to IE but that is because Edge is a pure HTML browser. It doesn't have the ActiveX part that IE has and was hated by many people. In terms of speed it is the fastest browser I have used and the new update allows me to use Adblock (which is still being worked on but works pretty well)

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

The UI in Edge is unintuitive and needs to be thrown away. The UI in IE11 makes more sense. The simple fix is to copy the look and feel of IE11, but use the rendering engine from Edge. A new rendering and compositing engine doesn't warrant a new interface when nothing was wrong in that department.

 

[Dutchkip]

I have been using win10 for some time now and it works fine for me. Only problem I had was when I removed Spyhunter/ Reghunter, that rendered my start button useless and had to create another account to get win 10 to work again. Even Microsoft after all this time don't have a proper solution for that. I don't use Edge as I read too many negative posts about it.
Other then that it works great.

 

[Jasjar]

I tried windows 10. The desktop wouldn`t even load. It would almost load then crash and then try to load again. I went back straight away. I even has trouble going back too; I could not click in the settings, so I had to boot while holding shift. I just "wonder" why I went back. Windows 10 looks horrible as well, windows 2000 even looks better than windows 10.

 

[JFST]

My experience:
I tried to update the laptop of my father, he loved it (W10) but he had problems and had to go back to W7; the problems were:
- Black screen: he had to conect an external monitor because the integrated one received not signal or, once "solved", received for a while and then black screen again until the external monitor were conected.
- Calendar and mail apps broken: worked fine then broke.
- I think he had some start menu problem (it broke a couple of times, i think).

As i said he loved it but had to go back to W7 because the screen problem is really a huge problem (and he tried some moths ago and a few weeks ago with same result).
And if you check internet for these problems you'll see they are still present; and i think they should be solved already.

On my main PC:
I upgraded a few weeks ago, and seems i am no having problems (hopefully i will neved do) apart of the Bluetooth icon turning on when i have nothing with bluetooth.

Also i should have received the "aniversary" update and i haven't, but i have heard that you will recieve real updates after the period you can go back to your old Windows.

Not sure if i forget something (if i do and it is important i will come back 😛 ).

 

[quadcomputers]

After trying Windows 10 for at least a year now, and after so many bugs and incomatibility I finally threw in the towel: I decided to stick with Windows 7 at least until they sort out all the bugs in Windows 10(Which should probably take at least a year).

What about you? Is this your case too?

YES.... they had to do something to catch up to Google. So Microsoft starting pushing their own APPS but Win-8 and 8-1 and RT those slap-together nightmares. Win-10 was suppose fix all that. Meanwhile take away the APPS (which can do by turning them OFF) will leave a blank desktop. Recently they added an icon type menu; but not exactly like the typical menu. Here you can around the computer better and get to your utilities when needed. Check out the creation dates of their system files, and you'll see it's the same old operating system over and over. I prefer Linux but some of my customers are badly "Windows Indoctrinated" least until they see the new Linux distributions and actually realize they can have full control of their computers, rather than the control freaks up there in Redmond Washington.

 

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