Discussion Why do you dislike Windows 11

[Corwin65]

I've been running Windows 11 on my laptop now for about a year.
I have not had a bad experience myself with it.

I am trying to understand all these threads where people hate it and want to go back to win 7 or 10 because it's horrible.

Would some of you give specifics other than "I hate it".

I just want to see if I'm missing something.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Deleted member 14196]

You can take the bloat out of it and you can make the gui just like Windows 10. After that there’s not much to not like except for the extra context menus. I was happy the way things were but when configured properly, I am happy again.

 

[falcon291]

It is all about the GUI. Windows 10 has a nice Start Menu. Windows 11 Start menu sucks.

And I started to use my desktop for application shortcuts. But I don't like using Desktop like that.

 

[hotaru.hino]

I think the hate boils down to mostly two things:

• The TPM requirement (But this mostly affects the FOMO people)
• Changes to the GUI in various aspects

The second part is always a thorn in Microsoft's side. A lot of people think Microsoft changes things just to change them. One could argue Windows 95's Start Menu is still perfectly serviceable. But at the same time, there's a camp that will think Microsoft's doesn't keep up with the times.

However I think the problem when Microsoft does things to the GUI is they change how you use it in ways that annoys people. For instance, the new context menu. Their way of incorporating the old method is to force you to click on an extra option which is silly. I'm a little annoyed with the Taskbar's program icons have no options to change how they're presented. And while I could install Start11 to get some of the old ways back, I could also just learn to work with what I got.

However I also feel like I'm a bit of a special case with one thing: how to launch apps. It's either pinned on the Task Bar (and I just use Windows + # to open/switch to it) or pin it to Start if it's not in All Apps and just search for it. The second part is what allowed me to use Windows 8 with little friction and people couldn't believe that I didn't mind the OS.

 

[Colif]

I like how you can set a different picture on virtual desktops
I hate how you can't have spotlight on one desktop and a picture on the other.

Its not enough to stop me using it though

TPM is a good reason to hate it for those that don't have one or don't want to trick windows into thinking you have one.

The UI reason is short sighted as every version of windows since... XP has been an updated UI with a few extra features. Maybe win 11 is just too close but after Win 8 they are careful with changes... make it too radical and people hate... make it too similar... people hate. How do they win?

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

All my machines are on 11 Pro or Home. I did change the Start Menu and explorer with alternate software.

 

[USAFRet]

I have 2 systems on Win 11, the rest on Win 10.

I have no problems with either.
No shell alternates, no Start menu change, nada.

People have moaned about every OS GUI change, since an OS had a GUI.
Some people just like to moan.

 

[Gam3r01]

My only complains are a non resizable taskbark (I want it much smaller, and the registry tweaks dont work exactly right), and the folder icons suck now.
I have hundreds of folders full of photos, I liked the win10 icons, but now the preview image on each folder is cut off 60% by the "front folder"

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I've been running Windows 11 on my laptop now for about a year.
I have not had a bad experience myself with it.

I am trying to understand all these threads where people hate it and want to go back to win 7 or 10 because it's horrible.

Would some of you give specifics other than "I hate it".

I just want to see if I'm missing something.

Thanks in advance.

I'm with you! I don't get this pushback.

The OS is as good (fast) as Win 10 or any other OS. I've not had a single issue on either my two year old Omen 15 laptop, and my current gaming rig in my sig.

Whilst some functionality is returning with 22H2 release, I don't see that as a negative. It's just getting it right.

OK, now a year or so after release, it stable, secure, and in good state. There is always a little bleed in time for kinks to be ironed out.

Bored with all the bandwagon-ers who have no idea why they won't migrate, other than some website, or random person has suggested 'Win 11 is the worst thing ever!'.

Try it out. It's an OS. Not a wedding. You can always roll back if needed. Takes all of about 15 mins.

 

[Math Geek]

my hate is plain and simple and i've not been shy about it at all.

win 10 introduced an OS based 100% around data mining and i will never get behind that. can be the best OS ever created but i'm not willing to put up with being a commodity to get it.

plain and simple. don't care about GUI, menus, customization or anything else when underneath is windows spyware edition 100%. don't care that they added some cool sliders to let you pretend you can control it, don't care that you can block some of it with add-on apps that will be removed/disabled every other day as they "update" it whenever they feel like it, don't like handing MS total control of my system and being only a "user as a service"

with win 7 i can at least control what is on it including removing/blocking the attempts to add the mining to it as well. i'm pretty close to be able to use linux for my daily driver and after that i will never go back to windows again.

ignore it all you want, pretend it does not bother you, help me with my tin foil hat or whatever. i don't care, but none of that changes the reality of the situation.

 

[USAFRet]

my hate is plain and simple and i've not been shy about it at all.

win 10 introduced an OS based 100% around data mining and i will never get behind that. can be the best OS ever created but i'm not willing to put up with being a commodity to get it.

plain and simple. don't care about GUI, menus, customization or anything else when underneath is windows spyware edition 100%

Then theres this:

Windows 7 Has Silently Received Telemetry Functionality with July 2019 Security Patch

Many users are concerned about Telemetry and Data Collection services that Microsoft bundles with Windows 10. Some users consider these features as a

winaero.com

 

[Math Geek]

yup i am aware of the attempts, but i can disable windows update, block those specific updates and so on with win 7. i know it will never turn on updates behind my back, i know i can delete any update if it turns out to be something i don't want, i know i can simply NEVER update it if i don't wanna

 

[Eximo]

Doesn't bother me that much, but I know my brother has always liked his taskbar at the side of the screen. Windows 11 takes that away.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

my hate is plain and simple and i've not been shy about it at all.

win 10 introduced an OS based 100% around data mining and i will never get behind that. can be the best OS ever created but i'm not willing to put up with being a commodity to get it.

plain and simple. don't care about GUI, menus, customization or anything else when underneath is windows spyware edition 100%. don't care that they added some cool sliders to let you pretend you can control it, don't care that you can block some of it with add-on apps that will be removed/disabled every other day as they "update" it whenever they feel like it, don't like handing MS total control of my system and being only a "user as a service"

with win 7 i can at least control what is on it including removing/blocking the attempts to add the mining to it as well. i'm pretty close to be able to use linux for my daily driver and after that i will never go back to windows again.

ignore it all you want, pretend it does not bother you, help me with my tin foil hat or whatever. i don't care, but none of that changes the reality of the situation.

There are many options to turn off data telemetry in Win 11, if that's what you mean?

There are of course other options to disable these things and more, with a refined google search!

 

[USAFRet]

yup i am aware of the attempts, but i can disable windows update, block those specific updates and so on with win 7. i know it will never turn on updates behind my back, i know i can delete any update if it turns out to be something i don't want, i know i can simply NEVER update it if i don't wanna

And for the clueless among us (NOT YOU!), this is how we get major virus infestations.
Which affects everyone.

 

[Math Geek]

i get it, i do. but the question is "why do I hate win 10/11?"

not what things about it make it safer for the average person

 

[USAFRet]

i get it, i do. but the question is "why do I hate win 10/11?"

not what things about it make it safer for the average person

I know, I know...😉

 

[Corwin65]

My PC experience goes back to MS DOS 2.25 if I recall, and I actually used Windows 1 (mostly a glorified clock).

My experience is pretty much to just roll with what we get and get the job done.

We will always have to adapt one way or another.

I do miss things that I was used to, but that doesn't last long.

 

[rox11]

Let me be clear ... I don't "hate" Windows 11, but there are some seriously regressive things that make me wonder "WHY?" Keeping TPM aside (which is ridiculous):

1. I do not understand, nor will I ever, why I have to right click on the Windows taskbar icon to get to Settings and then go to Windows Update to update the system. How can this multi-step process possibly be an improvement over the straightforward Windows 10 update process?

2. Why do I have to type "Night Light" into the search box to get the function? How can this possibly be an improvement over simply putting it into the bottom right taskbar?

3. Why, after more than a year of the product being out, are bottom right corner calendar, etc., functions not available on a second monitor? Again, this is an improvement in who's view?

4. Why is "refresh" a multi-step process for disk drives?!?! Arghh!!!

I know there's more, but I can't think of it at the moment. In general, the user interface is quite nice and smooth. And, I've been able to install up to 22H2 on all of the "unsanctioned" PCs that I've wanted to, but there are some weird retrogressive UI things that I simply can't understand. I don't use the one Windows 10 PC in house that much anymore but, when I do, I am amazed at how much more straightforward it is.

 

[hotaru.hino]

1. I do not understand, nor will I ever, why I have to right click on the Windows taskbar icon to get to Settings and then go to Windows Update to update the system. How can this multi-step process possibly be an improvement over the straightforward Windows 10 update process?

The keyboard shortcut for Windows Settings is Win + i if you want to skip a step

Also I've just left Windows update alone until it bugs me that it's about to update. This goes with Windows 10.

2. Why do I have to type "Night Light" into the search box to get the function? How can this possibly be an improvement over simply putting it into the bottom right taskbar?

It's probably not in there by default, but the option is there:

 

[Deleted member 14196]

Just click on the volume lower right on task bar and you will be able to turn night light on and off with a click of a button. Two clicks total to enable or disable

 

[Colif]

Just click on the volume lower right on task bar and you will be able to turn night light on and off with a click of a button. Two clicks total to enable or disable

it doesn't seem to default to showing it, like Hotaru showed above, you may have to add it to the menu via add.
I know it wasn't showing for me until I added it...

My experience is pretty much to just roll with what we get and get the job done.

We will always have to adapt one way or another.

I do miss things that I was used to, but that doesn't last long.

I am the same, for the most part I accepted the changes and only miss some things from previous versions... like the desktop toolbar. I didn't use WIn 8 but my PC didn't have any drivers for it, and even back then I knew that was a bad idea.

 

[Deleted member 14196]

Must be my tweaks from ThisIsWin11

https://github.com/builtbybel/ThisIsWin11
Love this app

my win 11 is unobtrusive and looks and acts as it should. No spying or extremely pared back to minimum

this application has allowed me to become happy with windows 11

 

[zesun]

A lot of it is just hate for the sake of hating it. It always happens. There are die hards who honestly think win7 is better and has the best ui and so on... which ofc. they are allowed to think, to me it's just people that can't handle change and modern design changes.

But some people do have more legit reasons. Before the fix from amd, there was annoying stutter from time to time on amd platforms. Changes to the task bar ranges from annoying to downright taking out features. I would go so far as to say that the task bar is the main issue windows 11 has, though they are improving it.
The start menu is fine and not the big issue some might let you to believe.
TPM is nothing but a minor issue and no problem, again it's just people getting overly upset because they thinbk they have to because xome youtuber told them to.

Let me be clear ... I don't "hate" Windows 11, but there are some seriously regressive things that make me wonder "WHY?" Keeping TPM aside (which is ridiculous):

1. I do not understand, nor will I ever, why I have to right click on the Windows taskbar icon to get to Settings and then go to Windows Update to update the system. How can this multi-step process possibly be an improvement over the straightforward Windows 10 update process?

2. Why do I have to type "Night Light" into the search box to get the function? How can this possibly be an improvement over simply putting it into the bottom right taskbar?

3. Why, after more than a year of the product being out, are bottom right corner calendar, etc., functions not available on a second monitor? Again, this is an improvement in who's view?

4. Why is "refresh" a multi-step process for disk drives?!?! Arghh!!!

I know there's more, but I can't think of it at the moment. In general, the user interface is quite nice and smooth. And, I've been able to install up to 22H2 on all of the "unsanctioned" PCs that I've wanted to, but there are some weird retrogressive UI things that I simply can't understand. I don't use the one Windows 10 PC in house that much anymore but, when I do, I am amazed at how much more straightforward it is.

1. Isn't it the same process? Go to settings > windows update. I haven't used win10 since win11 launch, but i am sure it was the same process.

2. It's still in the bottom right pop up. Click on the audio/network icon.

3. Indeed. This is the main issue with win11, the task bar. Weird redesign... and some of the improvements they do make take way too long to implement.

4. I don't understand this one.

 

[Colif]

1. Isn't it the same process? Go to settings > windows update. I haven't used win10 since win11 launch, but i am sure it was the same process.

i just loaded a win 10 VM, I don't see any faster way. Only fastest way requires making a shortcut to it. Which might be faster after its set up. right click start/settings/windows update is pretty much same as 10 was

4 I think he means refresh install. And the only difference is in menus

Spoiler

win 10:

1. settings/update & security/recovery
2. under adv startup, click restart now
3. troubleshoot/reset this PC
4. enter password, pc will restart and reinstall win 10

Win 11

1. settings/system/recovery
2. next to adv startup, click restart now
3. steps 3 & 4 are the same

Essentially. he doesn't like fact they changed the UI.

If they hadn't changed the UI. No one would buy it... and MS isn't a charity, it is a business.

It may not make much off us who make PC but it does off people buying new PC.

Win 11 isn't that much different to 10. Hence why hatred of it makes little sense.