Question Why is my PC so laggy? Its 2 months old as of June, getting ping spikes when I game, but my network is perfectly fine.

[karoi]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/Software
Theres the benchmark, has every spec on there.
Note: I didn’t update windows/get any new updates. I didn’t download anything except MalwareBytes to see if it was a virus. The network is fine on all my other devices, its just weird on my PC.

 

[karoi]

When your screen freezes can you alt tab and still use the PC or does the entire PC freeze in this instance?

Ill see when I get home. Also, for future reference, where should I buy pre-built PCs that don’t cheap out on stuff?

 

[helper800]

Ill see when I get home. Also, for future reference, where should I buy pre-built PCs that don’t cheap out on stuff?

If you have to buy a prebuilt PC there are a few that allow you to choose all the parts and then they build it. Those are the best types though they are technically not a "pre-built" but a custom PC built by another for you.

The next best thing would be companies that do pre-built PCs but have at least a narrow selection of different branded and specced parts to choose from for your build.

True pre-built PCs are purchased as assembled and there is no way to customize what you get except by getting a different PC entirely.

You can also always try and build a PC yourself and save money from 100-200+ dollars saved.

 

[Eximo]

Even Cyberpower will let you pick major components. Just their off the shelf computers are meant to make them as much money as possible. They actually sell very nice components, they just charge you extra to use them.

So when you fire up their configurator, you just scroll down to the various options and don't take their default options. They have low end motherboards, a few mid-range choices, and then over the top crazy ones. All the ones they can get the best margins out of. They sell house branded power supplies as default, but carry major brands like Corsair. Memory they always go for the cheapest, but they do sell expensive gaming kits that are the same things people would recommend when building it yourself.

If that time comes, ask for a recommendation with a price in mind.

 

[helper800]

Here is a direct comparison of cost with the exact same parts, not all of which makes sense, but just so I can choose the same items for both builds, one that you buy through CyberPower and one that you build yourself.

Cyberpower - $2878.00

Vs.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($381.77 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE LINK H150i RGB 63.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($829.00 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($179.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2369.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 17:58 EDT-0400

That is a 508.31 dollar savings paying full price for Windows, though you do not get a free version of the Wukong game, I guess that's worth about 500 dollars.

 

[karoi]

Thanks guys, I’ll look into the websites that lets me choose parts, can’t really build it myself because I’m afraid I’ll mess up and waste money (i’m not paying for it 😭)

 

[karoi]

If you have to buy a prebuilt PC there are a few that allow you to choose all the parts and then they build it. Those are the best types though they are technically not a "pre-built" but a custom PC built by another for you.

The next best thing would be companies that do pre-built PCs but have at least a narrow selection of different branded and specced parts to choose from for your build.

True pre-built PCs are purchased as assembled and there is no way to customize what you get except by getting a different PC entirely.

You can also always try and build a PC yourself and save money from 100-200+ dollars saved.

What website do you recommend to pick parts and have them build it for me?

 

[karoi]

Even Cyberpower will let you pick major components. Just their off the shelf computers are meant to make them as much money as possible. They actually sell very nice components, they just charge you extra to use them.

So when you fire up their configurator, you just scroll down to the various options and don't take their default options. They have low end motherboards, a few mid-range choices, and then over the top crazy ones. All the ones they can get the best margins out of. They sell house branded power supplies as default, but carry major brands like Corsair. Memory they always go for the cheapest, but they do sell expensive gaming kits that are the same things people would recommend when building it yourself.

If that time comes, ask for a recommendation with a price in mind.

Could you recommend me a build for $2000-2300 budget and one for $900-1100 budget? And what website I could have them build it for me on if you know any 🙏

 

[helper800]

Could you recommend me a build for $2000-2300 budget and one for $900-1100 budget? And what website I could have them build it for me on if you know any 🙏

Are you anywhere near a Microcenter?

 

[karoi]

Are you anywhere near a Microcenter?

Nope.

 

[Eximo]

Are you planning to keep that RTX 4060? Could build around that.

If not CyberPower:

5600X + RX7600 + 2x8 GB DDR4 3600 + 1TB WD Blue

Esports Essential Gaming PC (this is custom configurator PC I started with)
$978
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Back to School Featured Promotions: None
Extra Instant Rebate: None
Gaming Chassis: Apevia PREDATOR High Air Flow ATX Mid-Tower W/ tempered glass window + 4x 120mm RGB fans (Black Color)
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600X 3.7GHz [4.6GHz Turbo] 6 Cores/ 12 Threads 35MB Total Cache 65W Processor
Freebie of Processor: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Cooler Master HYPER 212 SPECTRUM V3 High RGB Performance CPU Cooler with 4 Heat Pipes and PWM Fans
Coolants for Liquid Cooling Fans with Reservoir Pump: None
Video Card: AMD Radeon™ RX 7600 8GB GDDR6 Video Card (Single Card)
Freebie of Video Card: None
GPU Support: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts - EVGA 600Watts 80 Plus Gold high-efficient Power Supply
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B550 UD AC ATX w/ WIFI 802.11, 1 Gigabit LAN, 5 PCIe x16, 4 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Team T-FORCE DELTA RGB)
Primary Hard Drive: 1TB WD Blue SN580 Series (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 4150/4150 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 600/750k (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
Video Capture Card: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Freebie of Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: None
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Microphone: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Video Camera: None
External Accessories: None
Windows Recovery: Windows 11 Recovery USB
Digital Delivery Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 business days.


$2300 build

i7-14700k + 7900 GRE + 2x16GB DDR5 6000 (Trident Z) + 2TB WD Black

Xtreme 4060 Ti Gaming PC (this is custom configurator PC I started with)
$2280
Print
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Back to School Featured Promotions: None
Extra Instant Rebate: None
Gaming Chassis: CORSAIR 4000D SERIES AIRFLOW Edition ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis (Black)
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-14700K 8P/16 + 12E 3.40GHz [Turbo 5.6GHz] 33MB Cache LGA1700
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: CYBERPOWERPC LEVELPLAY M1 ARGB 240mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate + 2X 120mm ARGB PWM Fans (2x Standard 120MM Fans)
Coolants for Liquid Cooling Fans with Reservoir Pump: None
Video Card: AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 GRE 16GB GDDR6 Video Card (Single Card)
Freebie of Video Card: None
GPU Support: None
Power Supply: 850Watts - Corsair RM850x SHIFT 80 PLUS Gold ATX 3.0 Fully Modular w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z790 UD AC DDR5 ATX w/ Wi-Fi, 2.5GbT LAN, (4)PCIe x16,(2)PCIe x1, (3)M.2, (6)SATA
RAM / System Memory: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory (GSKILL TRIDENT Z5 RGB [BLACK])
Primary Hard Drive: 2TB WD BLACK SN850X (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7300/6600 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1200/1100k (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
Video Capture Card: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Freebie of Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: None
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Microphone: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Video Camera: None
External Accessories: None
Windows Recovery: Windows 11 Recovery USB
Digital Delivery Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 business days.

 

[karoi]

Are you planning to keep that RTX 4060? Could build around that.

If not CyberPower:

5600X + RX7600 + 2x8 GB DDR4 3600 + 1TB WD Blue

Esports Essential Gaming PC (this is custom configurator PC I started with)
$978
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Back to School Featured Promotions: None
Extra Instant Rebate: None
Gaming Chassis: Apevia PREDATOR High Air Flow ATX Mid-Tower W/ tempered glass window + 4x 120mm RGB fans (Black Color)
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600X 3.7GHz [4.6GHz Turbo] 6 Cores/ 12 Threads 35MB Total Cache 65W Processor
Freebie of Processor: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Cooler Master HYPER 212 SPECTRUM V3 High RGB Performance CPU Cooler with 4 Heat Pipes and PWM Fans
Coolants for Liquid Cooling Fans with Reservoir Pump: None
Video Card: AMD Radeon™ RX 7600 8GB GDDR6 Video Card (Single Card)
Freebie of Video Card: None
GPU Support: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts - EVGA 600Watts 80 Plus Gold high-efficient Power Supply
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B550 UD AC ATX w/ WIFI 802.11, 1 Gigabit LAN, 5 PCIe x16, 4 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Team T-FORCE DELTA RGB)
Primary Hard Drive: 1TB WD Blue SN580 Series (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 4150/4150 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 600/750k (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
Video Capture Card: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Freebie of Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: None
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Microphone: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Video Camera: None
External Accessories: None
Windows Recovery: Windows 11 Recovery USB
Digital Delivery Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 business days.


$2300 build

i7-14700k + 7900 GRE + 2x16GB DDR5 6000 (Trident Z) + 2TB WD Black

Xtreme 4060 Ti Gaming PC (this is custom configurator PC I started with)
$2280
Print
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Back to School Featured Promotions: None
Extra Instant Rebate: None
Gaming Chassis: CORSAIR 4000D SERIES AIRFLOW Edition ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis (Black)
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-14700K 8P/16 + 12E 3.40GHz [Turbo 5.6GHz] 33MB Cache LGA1700
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: CYBERPOWERPC LEVELPLAY M1 ARGB 240mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate + 2X 120mm ARGB PWM Fans (2x Standard 120MM Fans)
Coolants for Liquid Cooling Fans with Reservoir Pump: None
Video Card: AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 GRE 16GB GDDR6 Video Card (Single Card)
Freebie of Video Card: None
GPU Support: None
Power Supply: 850Watts - Corsair RM850x SHIFT 80 PLUS Gold ATX 3.0 Fully Modular w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z790 UD AC DDR5 ATX w/ Wi-Fi, 2.5GbT LAN, (4)PCIe x16,(2)PCIe x1, (3)M.2, (6)SATA
RAM / System Memory: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory (GSKILL TRIDENT Z5 RGB [BLACK])
Primary Hard Drive: 2TB WD BLACK SN850X (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7300/6600 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1200/1100k (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
Video Capture Card: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Freebie of Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: None
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Microphone: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Video Camera: None
External Accessories: None
Windows Recovery: Windows 11 Recovery USB
Digital Delivery Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 business days.

Thanks so much, and these are the recommended parts to manually build/have someone build the PC right? And not pre-built

 

[karoi]

Are you planning to keep that RTX 4060? Could build around that.

If not CyberPower:

5600X + RX7600 + 2x8 GB DDR4 3600 + 1TB WD Blue

Esports Essential Gaming PC (this is custom configurator PC I started with)
$978
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Back to School Featured Promotions: None
Extra Instant Rebate: None
Gaming Chassis: Apevia PREDATOR High Air Flow ATX Mid-Tower W/ tempered glass window + 4x 120mm RGB fans (Black Color)
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600X 3.7GHz [4.6GHz Turbo] 6 Cores/ 12 Threads 35MB Total Cache 65W Processor
Freebie of Processor: None
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Cooler Master HYPER 212 SPECTRUM V3 High RGB Performance CPU Cooler with 4 Heat Pipes and PWM Fans
Coolants for Liquid Cooling Fans with Reservoir Pump: None
Video Card: AMD Radeon™ RX 7600 8GB GDDR6 Video Card (Single Card)
Freebie of Video Card: None
GPU Support: None
Power Supply: 600 Watts - EVGA 600Watts 80 Plus Gold high-efficient Power Supply
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B550 UD AC ATX w/ WIFI 802.11, 1 Gigabit LAN, 5 PCIe x16, 4 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Team T-FORCE DELTA RGB)
Primary Hard Drive: 1TB WD Blue SN580 Series (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 4150/4150 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 600/750k (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
Video Capture Card: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Freebie of Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: None
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Microphone: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Video Camera: None
External Accessories: None
Windows Recovery: Windows 11 Recovery USB
Digital Delivery Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 business days.


$2300 build

i7-14700k + 7900 GRE + 2x16GB DDR5 6000 (Trident Z) + 2TB WD Black

Xtreme 4060 Ti Gaming PC (this is custom configurator PC I started with)
$2280
Print
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Back to School Featured Promotions: None
Extra Instant Rebate: None
Gaming Chassis: CORSAIR 4000D SERIES AIRFLOW Edition ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis (Black)
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-14700K 8P/16 + 12E 3.40GHz [Turbo 5.6GHz] 33MB Cache LGA1700
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: CYBERPOWERPC LEVELPLAY M1 ARGB 240mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate + 2X 120mm ARGB PWM Fans (2x Standard 120MM Fans)
Coolants for Liquid Cooling Fans with Reservoir Pump: None
Video Card: AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 GRE 16GB GDDR6 Video Card (Single Card)
Freebie of Video Card: None
GPU Support: None
Power Supply: 850Watts - Corsair RM850x SHIFT 80 PLUS Gold ATX 3.0 Fully Modular w/ PCIE 12+4Pins Connector for PCIe 5.0 graphics cards
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z790 UD AC DDR5 ATX w/ Wi-Fi, 2.5GbT LAN, (4)PCIe x16,(2)PCIe x1, (3)M.2, (6)SATA
RAM / System Memory: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory (GSKILL TRIDENT Z5 RGB [BLACK])
Primary Hard Drive: 2TB WD BLACK SN850X (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7300/6600 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1200/1100k (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
Video Capture Card: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Freebie of Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: None
Mouse: None
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Microphone: None
Gaming Apparel: None
Gaming Gear: None
Wireless Routers/Hubs: None
Video Camera: None
External Accessories: None
Windows Recovery: Windows 11 Recovery USB
Digital Delivery Software: None
Professional Wiring: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Warranty: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
Service: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
Rush Service: Standard processing time: ship within 5 business days.

Oh yeah also if yes pre-built, why CyberPower? Heard they weren’t a good PC company, just wondering. (my current pc is from cyberpower because it was a gift from someone)

 

[Eximo]

Those are the pre checkout prices for those configurations at CyberPowerPC.com. They will build it, but taxes and all that will increase the base price. Shipping may not be included.

There are plenty of other boutique builders out there, prices vary.

 

[karoi]

Those are the pre checkout prices for those configurations at CyberPowerPC.com. They will build it, but taxes and all that will increase the base price. Shipping may not be included.

There are plenty of other boutique builders out there, prices vary.

Okay so no, they aren’t pre builts from the company, just custom configurations on the PC? (no cheaped out parts right? sorry I’m just a bit blank on PC knowledge)

 

[Eximo]

Oh yeah also if yes pre-built, why CyberPower? Heard they weren’t a good PC company, just wondering. (my current pc is from cyberpower because it was a gift from someone)

Okay so no, they aren’t pre builts from the company, just custom configurations on the PC? (no cheaped out parts right? sorry I’m just a bit blank on PC knowledge)

The worst they could do is assemble it incorrectly or package it poorly. They don't make any money if you call them asking for support. That is where they get their bad reputation, plus the poorly specced off the shelf units you find on Amazon and the like. But all the boutique builders are like that. If you want service you have to go through the more expensive companies like Falcon NW, Digital Storm, Maingear, but they charge a much higher premium.

I picked out decent components from their offerings, you just can't use the default those configurations start at. 4060 Ti is a terrible GPU choice for the money, so I put in a 7900GRE. 7800XT would be a little cheaper.

On the cheaper build, they have decent sales on the 5600X and RX7600. A lighter combo similar to the RTX 4060 you had in performance, but still a good 1080p gaming choice.