WHY IS THE AMD FX-60 SO DAMN SLOW?

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But Anyway AMD Athlon 64 FX 62 is coming out and will hopefully beat the Conroe but then again the Conroe can win

But Even If the Conroe Wins By 20% Enthusiast OverClockers Will Make The AMD Athlon 64 FX62 GO EVEN HIGHER!
 
Well I was an INTEL Guy all the way, from P1 to P4, but now... bah, I'm on the AMD Camp, and can't complain at all! also, yeah THE FX-60 is a monster processor, but you can easily OC a 4800+ to FX60 Performance & save the cash. As for the Conroe. Intel took they're sweet time making a new CPU, after they're DUAL CORE DISSAPOINTMENT, they're heatlevels were way to high, and while AMD's CPUs worked better at a much lower temp and frequency. Also don't forget INTEL LIED TO US. bastards... I had an INTEL Friend bitchin' about it for a week; Still Like They said Earlier YEAH IT'S FASTER (at the moment) and it's not on the market, the FX-60 has been on the buy me button for a while now. So Ofcourse if they took they're time, it's obvious it's HAS to be faster.. Wait Until the new AMD comes out! and plus let's face it, only 1 out of 100 members in the forum have a damn FX-60, and NONE have a Conroe.. I'll just keep trusting MY OWN BENCHMARKS. :roll:
 
Just for the record, in windows, it reads my CPU as Althon 64 FX-60, not Althon unknown processor. If they say its a FX-60, then windows will pick it up as an FX-60. Whatever
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That only works if the bios is updated which Intel probably didnt do. I have November bios from DFI and if I popped in a FX-60 it would come up unkown, but if i used the december bios it would pop up FX-60.
 
Just for the record, in windows, it reads my CPU as Althon 64 FX-60, not Althon unknown processor. If they say its a FX-60, then windows will pick it up as an FX-60. Whatever
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That only works if the bios is updated which Intel probably didnt do. I have November bios from DFI and if I popped in a FX-60 it would come up unkown, but if i used the december bios it would pop up FX-60.

Ah ok, I just thought it was kinda fishy that mine comes with with FX-60 name and theirs didnt hehe. 8)
 
That only works if the bios is updated which Intel probably didnt do. I have November bios from DFI and if I popped in a FX-60 it would come up unkown, but if i used the december bios it would pop up FX-60.
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I don`t think AMD intended to make an FX60 from before I remember how they did their FX scheme:

FX51 then FX53 , then FX55 then FX57 and the FX60 (Which didn`t follow the pattern of +2)

BUT IT WAS ALSO THE FAULT OF THE MOTHERBOARD MAKERS WHO DIDN`T IMPLEMENT THE FX60 IN THE EARLIER BIOS!
 
Do not get any hopes what so ever for m2. Amds memory controler clearly benifits for lower latencies then clock speeds, you have all seen toms review on m2, its marginally slower, meaning ddr2800 will not even make up the marginally slower difference because its latencies will be even higher then ddr2 667mhz. That intel test was built to demonstrate the performance of amds flagship processor on m2, hence the 2.8 ghz instead of 2.6 as the fx 62 is the same as an fx60 only using socket m2 and it will have a 200 mhz higher clock speed @ 2.8 ghz. Goto anandtech and look at their own timedemos, they show that intel was being relativily conservative with their benchmarks as the conroe is even faster then the 2.8 ghz fx 60 then in the intel benchmarks. Is it soo hard to beleive that the Bigger company will have the fastest chip ? the company with better silicon, more engineers, more funding will have the fastest chip ? I dont think that its soo hard. As someone stated before its not the brand that matters it is truly the price vs performance. Intel will have both as the fx 60 costs over 1000$ and the 2.66 ghz conroe has a rumored cost of just over 500 $. Also on the ddr2 800 mhz thing, you do know intel platforms will also have ddr2 800 mhz, so how does amd have the advantage ?. The memory controler bandwidth being better is bs. I switched from Intel to amd with the EXACT same ram and my memory bandwidth benchmarks come out to be lower on the amd system.How ever my frame rate has gone up. Gaming is not all the gpu either there are sevral games which are bottlenecked by the processor, to name a few Far cry, hl2, bf2 also highly relys on the cpu etc. The conroe is also schedueled for 3rd quarter which runs from april 1st to june 30th, so prepare for the conroe in max 4mths.
 
That only works if the bios is updated which Intel probably didnt do. I have November bios from DFI and if I popped in a FX-60 it would come up unkown, but if i used the december bios it would pop up FX-60.
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I don`t think AMD intended to make an FX60 from before I remember how they did their FX scheme:

FX51 then FX53 , then FX55 then FX57 and the FX60 (Which didn`t follow the pattern of +2)

BUT IT WAS ALSO THE FAULT OF THE MOTHERBOARD MAKERS WHO DIDN`T IMPLEMENT THE FX60 IN THE EARLIER BIOS!

Yeah I think the FX-60 was more of a way to steal some more cash from enthusiasts than anything else. From what I understand its a X2 4800+ with a higher multiplier, oooo big deal lol. I'm not poking fun at anyone who bought one, bc they are damned fast and make my Venice look like a p1 hehe. It is just amazing the price diffrence between a x2 4800+ and a FX-60 is my only point.
 
why is amdmeltdown so stuipid
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Conroe is set for 3rd quarter, meaning from april 1st to june 30th, max four mths away. Not 6, there hasnt been an exact date for all we know it could come out in the middle of 3rd quarter. Also Spoolsv.exe has absolutely no performance impact and is AUTOMATICALLY run when windows xp is booted up. Ive run source tests with it on and off, there was not even a 1 fps difference. Unless the people who say they ran spoolsv.exe on the amd machine are talking about the backdoor trojan, but im assuming they arent. Both systems were freshly formatted. Bur by no means is the fx 60 a slow processor, its very fast, fast enough to play any game you want to for awhile.
 
Conroe is set for 3rd quarter, meaning from april 1st to june 30th, max four mths away. Not 6, there hasnt been an exact date for all we know it could come out in the middle of 3rd quarter. Also Spoolsv.exe has absolutely no performance impact and is AUTOMATICALLY run when windows xp is booted up. Ive run source tests with it on and off, there was not even a 1 fps difference. Unless the people who say they ran spoolsv.exe on the amd machine are talking about the backdoor trojan, but im assuming they arent. Both systems were freshly formatted.
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Correct then....

FX60= Still in my case

Conroe= 4 months away (and hopefully released on time)

Ill still take the FX60 right now because in 4 months or 6 months another CPU from AMD will be 3 to 4 months down the road from that... maybe I should wait for that....

Hmmm.... Maybe I should wait 10 years to buy a CPU! Imagine how good they will be!! :)
 
In 10 years intel plans on having 100's of cores in one processor I cant wait!!!. If I was you I wouldnt upgrade that fx 60 is fast enough to run any game atm and a for quite a while.
 
In 10 years intel plans on having 100's of cores in one processor I cant wait!!!. If I was you I wouldnt upgrade that fx 60 is fast enough to run any game atm and a for quite a while.
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How about 16 cores?? You read this one?

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/14/cebit_tyan_psc/



and yeah, im hoping the FX60 will carry me for 3 years. I only went with a single vid card solution right now because I know when the DX10 Vid cards release ill buy 2 and go with SLI in true x16. (Hopefully by then the true x16 will make a difference :wink: )
 
Yea i read that before I registered with toms hardware, thats quite the insane pc too bad they didnt put a good gfx card in it. If they do they could call it the most powerfull home pc around.The processing power must be soo immense 8 dual core opterons that would be amazing. But yea there really isnt any point of upgrading gfx cards atm cause dx 10 isnt that far away, and it does seem like microsoft is really pushing it. The fx60 should last 3 years its quite a monster of a cpu, even if it does seem a bit slow you can always overclock.
 
Conroe is set for 3rd quarter, meaning from april 1st to june 30th, max four mths away. Not 6, there hasnt been an exact date for all we know it could come out in the middle of 3rd quarter. Also Spoolsv.exe has absolutely no performance impact and is AUTOMATICALLY run when windows xp is booted up. Ive run source tests with it on and off, there was not even a 1 fps difference. Unless the people who say they ran spoolsv.exe on the amd machine are talking about the backdoor trojan, but im assuming they arent. Both systems were freshly formatted. Bur by no means is the fx 60 a slow processor, its very fast, fast enough to play any game you want to for awhile.
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Isn't 3rd quarter July - September?
 
Well not by wikipedia..
heres a link if you wish to read up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year
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I have a feeling most companies choose to align the fiscal year and calander year. It makes accounting easier. You can't go by what the government does. If i remember correctly the only requirement the government has is that the company uses a consistent fiscal year from year to year.

Obviously each industry is diffrent, retailers choose a diffrent fiscal year to align thier business with the returns after christmas. When Intel says 3Q I would surmise they mean 3Q according to calender, but feel free to prove me wrong.
 
In 10 years intel plans on having 100's of cores in one processor I cant wait!!!. If I was you I wouldnt upgrade that fx 60 is fast enough to run any game atm and a for quite a while.
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Yes then they will have AI programs that think for themselves and start running our defense weapons systems.....OOPS! sounds like the Terminator ( judgement day ) WHERE ALL DEAD!!.... 8O .. :wink: :tongue:

People get real here! Intel has not released the proc yet. So who knows whats going to happen "UNTIL" its in the hands of third party non-biased testers!
Till then its just speculation at this point...but what about those "Intel" setups! and benchmarks #'s....Did we forget about intels marketing dept and lies in the past!!!!!!! I don't know about you but I don't like being decived and lied too by anybody. So the fact Intel had their hands on it doesn't mean anything is just BS....I'll take the non-biased independent test's as fact.
If Conroe is faster then its faster..so what, Loyality!!!...are u crazy..I don't recive a check from AMD for my loyality or Intel..they just want my money and yours..like any company. Its all about the performance you can afford, not how high a benchmark # you can get and at $$$$...thats insane!
Thats just my opinion and my reality.... :tongue:
 
You honestly think they tainted with the computers/benchmarks ? When the task manager was opened, the conroe had 35 processes running, amd 32 processes running, amd system 8% cpu usage, conroe 2% cpu usage, you do know that tech sites did actually get hands on with these computers. They were not able to load their own time demos but woudl a time demo taht looks the same goes through the same motions make a 30 % difference, no it simply wouldnt. The difference of 6 % cpu usage would not even taint the benchmarks especially on a dual core system. Anandtech did their own demo with those computers and if you look at the numbers intel was actually conservative. I do not doubt these benchmarks every tech site has said these computers were not suspicious in anyway, anandtech could not find anything suspicious about those two computers. But as far as being loyal to one company, youd have to be crazy, I buy the processor with the best performance/price no matter which company it came from. I dont care if its amd or intel what matters is price and performance. I do however find it hard to beleive that people refuse to believe that a much larger company with more engineers working on their projects with alot more funding for these products would have a faster processor. Intel is not used to loosing in anyway they were always on the top of the performance charts, except for amds 3 prosperous years, they came out swinging with great force, when in downfall the fallen challenger learns.
 
actually, Intel's plans were laid out several years ago, and then it had been speculated that Conroe was going to be released this year or early next, knowing it would be difficult to overtake AMD till these 65nm parts launch.
 
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