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Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

Why is Messenger so %^&* unreliable ???

I feel like throwing my machine through the window.

Trying to communicate with the SAME person from the same machines.
Both of us have DSL
Nothing changes for either of us (software or hardware)

Some days we can connect straight away
but most of the time Messenger simply fails to connect either voice or
video.

What gives?

--
Michael Tissington
http://www.oaklodge.com
http://www.tabtag.com
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

In article <eU$HS0cwEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Michael Tissington
says...

> Why is Messenger so %^&* unreliable ???

> I feel like throwing my machine through the window.

> Trying to communicate with the SAME person from the same machines.
> Both of us have DSL
> Nothing changes for either of us (software or hardware)

> Some days we can connect straight away
> but most of the time Messenger simply fails to connect either voice or
> video.

> What gives?

Tell us more. NAT devices involved? Firewalls? A straight Internet
connection without either a NAT device, or a firewall, should work; unless
one of your ISPs is doing something out of the ordinary.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

I have a very similar problem. Two of us attempting to connect - we try both
directions.

Both ends using PlusNet ADSL - via LAN

Both using DrayTek 2600 routers

No software firewalls

Win SP2 both ends

Both run McAfee Virus Scan

Sometimes voice / video work but most times not. Chat always works. Most
recently we cant transfer files either (which was working recently)

What gives with this flaky system?

Cheers

--
Kahuna
------------
"N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bf5954c34e045198a4eb@msnews.microsoft.com...
> In article <eU$HS0cwEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Michael Tissington
> says...
>
>> Why is Messenger so %^&* unreliable ???
>
>> I feel like throwing my machine through the window.
>
>> Trying to communicate with the SAME person from the same machines.
>> Both of us have DSL
>> Nothing changes for either of us (software or hardware)
>
>> Some days we can connect straight away
>> but most of the time Messenger simply fails to connect either voice or
>> video.
>
>> What gives?
>
> Tell us more. NAT devices involved? Firewalls? A straight Internet
> connection without either a NAT device, or a firewall, should work; unless
> one of your ISPs is doing something out of the ordinary.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

Since you're using routers (dher NAT in involved) have you tried enabling
uPnP?


"Kahuna" <none@gonewest.com> wrote in message
news:uSSOPFOxEHA.1192@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I have a very similar problem. Two of us attempting to connect - we try
>both directions.
>
> Both ends using PlusNet ADSL - via LAN
>
> Both using DrayTek 2600 routers
>
> No software firewalls
>
> Win SP2 both ends
>
> Both run McAfee Virus Scan
>
> Sometimes voice / video work but most times not. Chat always works. Most
> recently we cant transfer files either (which was working recently)
>
> What gives with this flaky system?
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Kahuna
> ------------
> "N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1bf5954c34e045198a4eb@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> In article <eU$HS0cwEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Michael Tissington
>> says...
>>
>>> Why is Messenger so %^&* unreliable ???
>>
>>> I feel like throwing my machine through the window.
>>
>>> Trying to communicate with the SAME person from the same machines.
>>> Both of us have DSL
>>> Nothing changes for either of us (software or hardware)
>>
>>> Some days we can connect straight away
>>> but most of the time Messenger simply fails to connect either voice or
>>> video.
>>
>>> What gives?
>>
>> Tell us more. NAT devices involved? Firewalls? A straight Internet
>> connection without either a NAT device, or a firewall, should work;
>> unless
>> one of your ISPs is doing something out of the ordinary.
>>
>> --
>> Norman
>> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
>
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

UpNp enabled on our routers - we both have fixed IPs also (if that makes a
difference).

Cheers

--
Kahuna
------------
"Adam Membrey" <membreya@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OkCFPSOxEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Since you're using routers (dher NAT in involved) have you tried enabling
> uPnP?
>
>
> "Kahuna" <none@gonewest.com> wrote in message
> news:uSSOPFOxEHA.1192@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I have a very similar problem. Two of us attempting to connect - we try
>>both directions.
>>
>> Both ends using PlusNet ADSL - via LAN
>>
>> Both using DrayTek 2600 routers
>>
>> No software firewalls
>>
>> Win SP2 both ends
>>
>> Both run McAfee Virus Scan
>>
>> Sometimes voice / video work but most times not. Chat always works. Most
>> recently we cant transfer files either (which was working recently)
>>
>> What gives with this flaky system?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> --
>> Kahuna
>> ------------
>> "N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1bf5954c34e045198a4eb@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>> In article <eU$HS0cwEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Michael Tissington
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> Why is Messenger so %^&* unreliable ???
>>>
>>>> I feel like throwing my machine through the window.
>>>
>>>> Trying to communicate with the SAME person from the same machines.
>>>> Both of us have DSL
>>>> Nothing changes for either of us (software or hardware)
>>>
>>>> Some days we can connect straight away
>>>> but most of the time Messenger simply fails to connect either voice or
>>>> video.
>>>
>>>> What gives?
>>>
>>> Tell us more. NAT devices involved? Firewalls? A straight Internet
>>> connection without either a NAT device, or a firewall, should work;
>>> unless
>>> one of your ISPs is doing something out of the ordinary.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Norman
>>> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>>> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>>> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>>
>>
>
>
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

Does MSN say that UPnP is enabled?

Go to Tools > Options > Connection.

If UPnP is enabled then you should have "You are connected to the Internet
through a UPnP IP restricted NAT" ...or something to that effect :)


"Kahuna" <none@gonewest.com> wrote in message
news:esvAs8OxEHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> UpNp enabled on our routers - we both have fixed IPs also (if that makes a
> difference).
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Kahuna
> ------------
> "Adam Membrey" <membreya@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OkCFPSOxEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Since you're using routers (dher NAT in involved) have you tried enabling
>> uPnP?
>>
>>
>> "Kahuna" <none@gonewest.com> wrote in message
>> news:uSSOPFOxEHA.1192@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>I have a very similar problem. Two of us attempting to connect - we try
>>>both directions.
>>>
>>> Both ends using PlusNet ADSL - via LAN
>>>
>>> Both using DrayTek 2600 routers
>>>
>>> No software firewalls
>>>
>>> Win SP2 both ends
>>>
>>> Both run McAfee Virus Scan
>>>
>>> Sometimes voice / video work but most times not. Chat always works. Most
>>> recently we cant transfer files either (which was working recently)
>>>
>>> What gives with this flaky system?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kahuna
>>> ------------
>>> "N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.1bf5954c34e045198a4eb@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>> In article <eU$HS0cwEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Michael Tissington
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> Why is Messenger so %^&* unreliable ???
>>>>
>>>>> I feel like throwing my machine through the window.
>>>>
>>>>> Trying to communicate with the SAME person from the same machines.
>>>>> Both of us have DSL
>>>>> Nothing changes for either of us (software or hardware)
>>>>
>>>>> Some days we can connect straight away
>>>>> but most of the time Messenger simply fails to connect either voice or
>>>>> video.
>>>>
>>>>> What gives?
>>>>
>>>> Tell us more. NAT devices involved? Firewalls? A straight Internet
>>>> connection without either a NAT device, or a firewall, should work;
>>>> unless
>>>> one of your ISPs is doing something out of the ordinary.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Norman
>>>> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>>>> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>>>> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

Adam, I am using Win Messenger and there is no setting in the software to
select UpNp, though the menus you suggest result in a statement

You are connected to .NET messenger Service using a direct connection (no
firewall)

Auto detect internet connection is selected.

--
Kahuna
------------
"Adam Membrey" <membreya@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e2BFnXXxEHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Does MSN say that UPnP is enabled?
>
> Go to Tools > Options > Connection.
>
> If UPnP is enabled then you should have "You are connected to the Internet
> through a UPnP IP restricted NAT" ...or something to that effect :)
>
>
> "Kahuna" <none@gonewest.com> wrote in message
> news:esvAs8OxEHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> UpNp enabled on our routers - we both have fixed IPs also (if that makes
>> a difference).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> --
>> Kahuna
>> ------------
>> "Adam Membrey" <membreya@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OkCFPSOxEHA.1984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Since you're using routers (dher NAT in involved) have you tried
>>> enabling uPnP?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kahuna" <none@gonewest.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uSSOPFOxEHA.1192@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have a very similar problem. Two of us attempting to connect - we try
>>>>both directions.
>>>>
>>>> Both ends using PlusNet ADSL - via LAN
>>>>
>>>> Both using DrayTek 2600 routers
>>>>
>>>> No software firewalls
>>>>
>>>> Win SP2 both ends
>>>>
>>>> Both run McAfee Virus Scan
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes voice / video work but most times not. Chat always works.
>>>> Most recently we cant transfer files either (which was working
>>>> recently)
>>>>
>>>> What gives with this flaky system?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kahuna
>>>> ------------
>>>> "N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:MPG.1bf5954c34e045198a4eb@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>>> In article <eU$HS0cwEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Michael Tissington
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is Messenger so %^&* unreliable ???
>>>>>
>>>>>> I feel like throwing my machine through the window.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trying to communicate with the SAME person from the same machines.
>>>>>> Both of us have DSL
>>>>>> Nothing changes for either of us (software or hardware)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some days we can connect straight away
>>>>>> but most of the time Messenger simply fails to connect either voice
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> video.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What gives?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell us more. NAT devices involved? Firewalls? A straight Internet
>>>>> connection without either a NAT device, or a firewall, should work;
>>>>> unless
>>>>> one of your ISPs is doing something out of the ordinary.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Norman
>>>>> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>>>>> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>>>>> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
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