Why the new ATI series are so cheap???

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I cant belive what I see, ATI new video card series cheaper than older ones, the 5770 is arround 170USD and the 4870 or 4890 are around 200USD, what happened, whats the problem with them, I have my 260gtx one year old, and it cost me 240 USD, would it be a good idea to change it for the new ati???
 
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Nope, die is bigger, process is same. 😗
Only if you meant the 4870 would that be correct.

Secondly, the way I see it, ATI is still charging a premium for all its 5000 cards since our beloved green team still does not have theirs out yet.
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Ok that comment would seem to indicate you meant the 4770 for the case the OP finds himself in.

However, they are not cheap. Look at 5800 series. They go above $200 where in reality, they should be around the same price (or perhaps slightly higher) as the 4800 series since they are aimed at replacing the 4800 lineup.
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Same current price or same launch price?
There are the same launch price, and there's no way the 5800...
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Ugh im confused now... is it worth it to buy a 5870 or should i get a 5850
 
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I have to say while I'm not gonna support WoW being too intensive of a game, with that many players and screen and that much happening that's pretty impressive, actually; especially, keeping in mind that's a mid-range budget card.
 
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i say get a 5850...i don't think the performance difference justifies the price difference. also, the 5850 is enough for pretty much every game for now (except maybe crysis), consumes lesser power, and is cheaper. it should cover you for all games for atlest 4-6 months, maybe more. if and when you feel the need for something better, just get another 5850 and crossfire. the prices should have dropped by then considerably.
 
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I have to try one first. today I played Resident Evil 5 in coop on ATI 4870 (1600x1050) and it was going well untill the 2nd or 3rd mission where it lagged, only that lvl, than it went ok, my friend was beside me playing with a 250gtx (1920x1080) and didnt go lag any time, we both played full graphics AA x8
 
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no way a 250 can outperform a 4870 at a lower res. Was he playin on the lowest detail?
 
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Probably because they dont have enough of a performance gain to warrant a high price hehe. No...This is how AMD like to compete...performance for value...wheras Nvidia usually tend to have the upper hand in performance but they charge a hefty premium for it.
 
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the 5xxx series cards have the performance crown right now....
 
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and will continue to have it for a while, before Nvidia comes out with the 300 cards, amd will produce the dual 5870 which will beat fermi. a dual fermi's price will be out of sight.
 
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Well considering one of those cards doesn't exist I would say you're dreaming bud! :pfff:
 
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I was gonna say it must suck to have friends that lie to you about their performance to seem superior in some way. :pt1cable:
 
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I own a 4870 and I can tell you the card doesn't get outperformed by a weak 250. There are 3 possibilities:
1. Your friend lied. He was using a lower resolution.
2. Your friend lied. He was not using AA at all.
3. You lie.
 
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Thats strange.... considering earlier you said:

Ok, but how abbout compatibility problems, I've heard a lot of complains with the 4870 since it came out, and I never used ATI ,except for my moms old PC with a 9250 and it sucked XD. I trust Nvidia, despite the very high price I love them
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Considering also the 250 GTX does not exist, and I'm sure you can see why many board members are quite skeptical... to say the least.
 
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Ok, but how abbout compatibility problems, I've heard a lot of complains with the 4870 since it came out, and I never used ATI ,except for my moms old PC with a 9250 and it sucked XD. I trust Nvidia, despite the very high price I love them
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:lol: How the hell can you love a company. What did it do to you? Help you when you were in trouble? Feed you if you were hungry? :heink:

Now, on topic. I give a little credit to the OP. Maybe he got confused between the 250 GTS and the non-existing 250 GTX, but the game comparison is from a fantasy book.
 
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That was on full graphic settings too, without AA. The most suprising thing is 5760x1200 resolution on a 128-bit bus card.
 
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ok sorry for my mistake, it was a 4850 and 250gts, both cards full graphics in resident 5, the only issue the ATI had was on that lvl, the super lag, i dont know why, all other game parts was running great, same as the 250gts.
If you have a 360 controller and a nice PC play the re5, graphics are little better than x-box, and you dont get lagged when playing mercenarys while having a bunch of zomies arround. (the 360 contriller is because aiming with mouse is spetialy dificult, i noticed that vertical aiming is more sensible than horizontal and you cant change it.)


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Maybe it is because ATI moved to 40nm sized GPU which would cut the cost for making the video card, thus, making the price cheaper for customers. In other words, the smaller the GPU, the cheaper the cost for making the video card and that would decrease the price too.

This is why in the past NVIDIA Geforce GTX 200 series cost more than Radeon HD 4000 series because NVIDIA failed to die shrink their GPU to 55nm and ATI tends to adopt newer tech and die shrinking their GPU before NVIDIA does. Maybe this is due to NVIDIA's approach by favouring Big Single Monolithic GPU which was the opposite to ATI's approach. ATI's approach was the idea of making Multiple Smaller GPUs over a big single monolithic GPU and to sell cheaper high-end video cards with decent performance.
 
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The 4850 is a good deal cheaper than the GTS 250 and is a big difference in comparison to the 4870. I'm not suprised, especially if it was the 512MB version. Nothing much to see here. :/ Also it's odd you prefer the Xbox controller on the PC... very odd. I'm gonna guess you grew up playing consoles before you got a computer, because usually it's the other way around.
 
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I have Larrabee.

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Take THAT!

Odds are I did not spell correctly.
 
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