Question Will adding two HDDs and upgrading the graphics card require a new PSU ?

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I have below pc specifications and i would like to add/replace those components:
Storage4: WD 18TB UltraStar DC HC550 SATA Hard Drive, 7200RPM
Storage5:
Western Digital Red 8TB NAS Hard Disk Drive WD80EFZX
Video Card: ASUS 16GB TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 5060 Ti GDDR7 OC Edition VGA Graphic Card

So my question is that Do i need to replace power supply ? Also do you have any recommendations for overall system upgrade performance ?

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Current:
CPU:
Intel Core i9-12900K
CPU Cooler: Rog Strix LC II
Motherboard: Asus Prime Z690-P Wifi LGA1700
Memory: Kingston FURY DDR4 (2x32GB)
Storage1: WD Black SN850 NvMe SSD 1TB
Storage2: Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC550 16TB
Storage3: Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC550 16TB
Video Card: Navidia GeForce RTX 3070-Ti
Case: Rog Strix Helios
Power Supply: ASUS ROG Strix 850W
 
I have below pc specifications and i would like to add/replace those components:
Storage4: WD 18TB UltraStar DC HC550 SATA Hard Drive, 7200RPM
Storage5:
Western Digital Red 8TB NAS Hard Disk Drive WD80EFZX
Video Card: ASUS 16GB TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 5060 Ti GDDR7 OC Edition VGA Graphic Card

So my question is that Do i need to replace power supply ? Also do you have any recommendations for overall system upgrade performance ?

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Current:
CPU:
Intel Core i9-12900K
CPU Cooler: Rog Strix LC II
Motherboard: Asus Prime Z690-P Wifi LGA1700
Memory: Kingston FURY DDR4 (2x32GB)
Storage1: WD Black SN850 NvMe SSD 1TB
Storage2: Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC550 16TB
Storage3: Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC550 16TB
Video Card: Navidia GeForce RTX 3070-Ti
Case: Rog Strix Helios
Power Supply: ASUS ROG Strix 850W
If your going to replace the 3070 with a 5060 that should save 100w.

I doubt adding 2 disk will use 100w.
 
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Thanks. I have another question: This Motherboard only has 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports,
so how i can add another two HDDs ?

Also not sure how it will fit the case since currently i have Two HHD and One SSD and now I want to add two more HDDs ?
 
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Thanks. I have another question: This Motherboard only has 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports,
so how i can add another two HDDs ?

Also not sure how it will fit the case since currently i have Two HHD and One SSD and now I want to add two more HDDs ?
Perhaps it's time to go with something like a DAS for the hdd's.

I have no stick time with ext storage so others will need to help.
 
Thanks. I have another question: This Motherboard only has 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports,
so how i can add another two HDDs ?

Also not sure how it will fit the case since currently i have Two HHD and One SSD and now I want to add two more HDDs ?
You already have 4x HDD?

What are they all used for?

Consider an external box. MediaSonic, or a 4 bay QNAP TR-004.
 
What is you recommendations for NAS in term of price with performance and have more than 6-8 bay 3.5 HDD ?
If you want more than eight HDD drive bays, you're talking serious money if you buy a commercial NAS housing from the likes of Synology or QNAP.
https://nascompares.com/guide/synol...Synology_vs_QNAP_NAS_-_Conclusion_and_Verdict

Caution: Synology has started to "lock down" drive choice, meaning you'll be forced to buy their branded drives (a bit like HP-branded drives in HP servers). You won't be able to source third party drives.
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/synologys-shocking-new-policy-say-goodbye-to-third-party-drives/

Even a small Synology or QNAP NAS chassis will cost several hundred dollars, before considering the cost of the drives. With 8 or more drives, you'll be spending thousands on brand new kit.

This Motherboard only has 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports,
so how i can add another two HDDs ?
Easy. Just add a controller card (if you have a spare working PCIe slot of the correct size).

You could buy a cheap-and-cheerful SATA card:
https://www.amazon.com/Ziyituod-Controller-Expansion-Profile-Non-Raid/dp/B07SZDK6CZ

I prefer more professional LSI SAS HBA IT-Mode controller cards. I buy second-hand ex-server pulls on eBay for the equivalent of $25, but you can buy brand new Chinese "clones" if you don't want the genuine article.

You're probably best off with a SAS3008 series board, because they run at PCIe Gen.3 but I find the older SAS 2108 boards OK for up to 8 hard disks, despite their slower bus speed of PCIe Gen.2.
https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...and-hba-complete-listing-plus-oem-models.599/

LSI SAS cards are equally happy with SATA drives. They come with controllers supporting multiples of 4 drives, i.e. 4-drive, 8-drive, 12-drive, 16-drive and sometimes 20-drive.You pick the card with enough SFF-8087 ports. Do NOT buy the IR-Mode (RAID) cards. Buy cards with IT Mode (Initiator Target) BIOS.
You need a card ending in 'i' (for IT) not 'e' (for IR). RAID cards hide drive hardware from the OS. IT cards allow the drives to be treated as fully visible, separate entities by the OS.

The LSI SAS 9311-4i supports 4 hard disks
The LSI SAS 9311-8i supports 8 hard disks
The LSI SAS 9311-16i supports 16 hard disks

You'll need at least one 4-way Forward Breakout SFF-8087 to SATA cable array, for each set of 4 drives.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/36pin-SFF-8087-Internal-Forward-Breakout-Black/dp/B08LS7PG6M

This is an example of the older 9211-8i PCIe Gen.2 cards I buy, but this example is a Chinese clone, not true LSI. You can run a x8 LSI card in PCIe x16 length slot, even if it's limited to x4 lanes (but at half bandwidth).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SXTAIGOOD-9201-8i-9211-8i-Controller-SFF-8087/dp/B0CFRJR499?s=electronics

I run four RAID-Z2 TrueNAS Core servers, one with 6 hard disks, the others with 8 hard disks each. It takes some time to grow accustomed to TrueNAS, so you might find a commercial QNAP OS easier to use.
https://www.truenas.com/blog/how-to-install-truenas-core/

Two of my TrueNAS systems are housed in old HP Xeon servers with 60GB+ ECC RAM per server. The other two systems in ordinary desktop PCs in a Fractal Define R4 and a Lian Li cases, with room for at least 8 drives each). My next build in a V2000 case might contain up to 16 hard disks.

You can use any old motherboard and CPU, dating back to 2010 for a simple setup. You do need at least 16GB RAM for TrueNAS. Boot TrueNAS OS from a small SATA SSD, mSATA SSD, or at a pinch, from USB.
 
This Motherboard only has 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports,
so how i can add another two HDDs ?
4 sata ports seem to be enough for your desired config.
Also not sure how it will fit the case since currently i have Two HHD and One SSD and now I want to add two more HDDs ?
A new pc case with space for more HDDs.

 
What is your main use for this PC?
The problem with adding 3.5" drives is the limited number of 3.5" drive spaces in your case.
An external box is one solution.
A case like the

Cooler Master N400 ATX Tower​

can hold 7 3.5" drives and is not expensive.
https://www.newegg.com/cooler-maste...0-kkn2/p/N82E16811119277?Item=N82E16811119277

To attach more than 4 sata drives to the motherboard can be done with a adapter card.
a pcie card:
https://www.newegg.com/p/2S7-09HH-01E79
or a m.2 card:
https://www.newegg.com/orico-pm2ts6-bp-pci-express-to-m-2-card/p/17Z-0003-00027

Hard drives take minimal power and your new graphics card takes less than the old so your current psu should be OK.

If you update you motherboard bios to currency, you can upgrade the cpu to a I9-14900K.

A year ago it was discovered that 13/14th gen processors had issues from excessive voltage.
That has been resolved and the warranty increased.
Here is the current status:
https://community.intel.com/t5/Mobi...en-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/m-p/1633442
https://community.intel.com/t5/Mobi...-Vmin-Shift-Instabilty-Update-New/m-p/1686948

I would not worry.
 
Since Motherboard have 3 x M.2 slots (Key M) this will be a great choice but still the space in case for two more HDD no space so I think even when I get GX601 ROG Strix Helios HDD Cage Kit properly won't fit the case

Even in back case only space for 2.5 SSD/HDD
https://ibb.co/WW7g3SNS

If you update you motherboard bios to currency, you can upgrade the cpu to a I9-14900K.
Well this is new to me I did not noticed that can do that this will be a good upgrade if there is no limitations in performance since recently update bios.

I don't prefer this choice but what do you think of something like this SATA Hard Drive Enclosure
https://www.amazon.com/Mediasonic-S...w-1205627868699763156-20&geniuslink=true&th=1
 
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