Will my Cpu Cooler block my ram slots?

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So I am about to buy Cryorig H5 Ultimate for my pc but I'm scared it will block my ram slots. My ram will be the Kingston HyperX Fury 2666mhz 8Gb Single stick and my motherboard will be the Asus Prime Z270-K, so will my ram fit in the second slot of my motherboard(that's where it is recommended) without the cooler blocking it?

Thanks!
 
1. Go to the web sites and look at the dimensions and configuration. With the fan in place on the wider side, there is a likelihood of a conflict. However Cryorig's coolers are offset so, with just the 1 fan, flipping the cooler around usually makes this a non issue. Scroll down to see pic w/ dimensions

http://www.cryorig.com/h5-ultimate_us.php


If there is a concern, there are alternate coolers that cool just as well which don't present this issue. The Scythe Mugen Max cools just as well as the $90 top of the line Cryorig R1 Ultimate an only costs $37

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2. I don't know what's going on of late but there have been dozens of posts of late describing putting single sticks in dual channel boards. Dual means "Install 2 sticks".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-channel_memory_architecture#Dual-channel_architecture
 


Just because a motherboard supports a dual channel memory configurations doesn't mean dual channel necessarily needs to be used. Even in the article you linked to there, if you read on to the "Performance" section, they point out that it doesn't really make a huge difference if memory is run single channel. Even though dual channel might offer double the theoretical bandwidth, in actual real world scenarios, the performance benefits tend to be quite minimal.

While it's often probably worth paying a little more more for two sticks at half the capacity to get that extra little bit of performance when you have additional RAM slots to spare, many microATX, and all mini-ITX motherboards only have two. While 8GB of RAM might be fine for most people for the time being, within a couple years or so, many people will want to upgrade to more. This can be a simple, low cost upgrade if you have one or more empty slots, but if they are all filled, you'll need to replace the RAM you already have, making for a much more expensive upgrade later on.

This has been more relevant lately, since memory prices have risen dramatically over the last year due to that production shortage, to the point where many configurations cost nearly twice as much as they did in early 2016. You'll pay nearly as much for 8GB now as you would have for 16GB then, so many people don't want to buy more than they have to for the time being, and are putting off purchasing more until they actually need it, once the prices have come back down.

So, in cases where someone is set on a motherboard with two memory slots, either for budget or form-factor reasons, going single channel can make sense. For a full ATX motherboard with four slots like the OP's though, two sticks would probably be worth looking into.
 
Yes I am quite familiar with the article and many more. In the THG tests where they saw 5% in gaming, the impact is negated by the fact that the GFX card is the usual bottleneck ... and, just like RAM Speed and CAS, when you look at minimum FPS or you look at SLI, these differences are greatly magnified. Tweaktown saw a 70% difference when only 2 sticks were intalled in quad channel boards.

However having been building PCs for 25 years and following THG since it's inception, I am also aware of the frustration and "Geez, I wish someone told me" posts from users who bought 1 stick believing they will upgrade to a 2nd stick later.... and then it doesn't work. RAM is only guaranteed when all the sticks came in the same package. THIS is the main reason we recommend following the CPU, MoBo manufacturers and RAM manufacturers recommendations and installing that two sticks be installed from the getgo. But still, giving away even 5% performance for $2 (+0.2%) on say a $1000 build is still illogical .

What I am mainly commenting on however, is that it was extremely rare to see a 1 - stick build here in the forums and I have answered at least 10 in the last 2 days.
 

A 70% difference at what though? Following through to the reference and going to page 5 as directed by Wikipedia leads us to synthetic memory benchmark results in SiSoft Sandra. So sure, if all you do is run SiSoft Sandra benchmarks all day on your system for some reason, you should see higher numbers with quad-channel memory. Otherwise, you won't likely notice any difference. The Wikipedia page also pointed out that the 70% only applied to that one benchmark, and that the other benchmarks they performed didn't show any major difference between dual and quad channel modes. Here's a more relevant article, which tests more than just synthetic benchmarks...

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2982965/components/quad-channel-ram-vs-dual-channel-ram-the-shocking-truth-about-their-performance.html

Once again, PC World's SiSoft Sandra synthetic benchmark shows a huge difference, but that doesn't translate to much of a difference in actual software. At their Handbrake video encoding test, quad channel saw absolutely no performance advantage, and was technically around 1% slower, though that probably falls into the margin of error. Testing in PCMark also showed no performance advantage in simulated real world workloads. Winrar's built-in compression test showed quad channel being faster by just 2%, and only 7-zip showed a somewhat notable advantage, with compression being 7% faster. The few games they tested also showed no advantage, even at reduced resolution and graphics settings to push framerates up around 200 fps and prevent the graphics card from being the limiting factor. Tomb Raider got identical performance with either memory setup, Bioshock was actually 5% slower in quad-channel mode, and Dirt Showdown was about 1% faster in quad channel, which again, is probably within the margin of error.

Sure, there's undoubtedly other memory-intensive software like 7-zip that shows some performance gains from having a quad channel setup, but the differences are at the level where people probably shouldn't care much, unless they're running some sort of specialized server software or something where they know it will make a difference. The differences might be a bit greater going from single channel to dual, but again, plenty of software and games won't be affected at all, and in the limited scenarios where differences exist, those differences usually won't be huge.

I would certainly go for dual channel over single, but I also wouldn't go with a motherboard with only two RAM slots. For larger boards like this, I agree that there isn't much reason to go with only one stick. Adding another stick later should usually work fine if they match, but of course there could potentially be differences between production runs that some motherboards might not like. In the event that that happens, you won't likely be any worse off than if you had to replace a pair of sticks anyway though.


I hadn't been paying much attention to that, but maybe some specific budget build with one stick of RAM was posted on a popular site recently. Or maybe there was some relatively good sale on a single stick of RAM somewhere.