[SOLVED] Will this all fit and work correctly?

[Chandler1x]

I am looking to upgrade my fan,ram and ssd, will these parts work together? and is the fan ok or is there another one that will work? https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/cfpCZZ

 

[thomas4204]

cpu running at 67-70 during the test and gpu at a steady 56.

Yeah I’ll believe you can get a slight overclock in. It nothing game changer. 50-75 is the most you want your cpu to go and 80 is max you want to hit anything higher isn’t great for your cpu and will thermal throttle to try to get lower temps by reducing performance.

 

[Chandler1x]

Yeah I’ll believe you can get a slight overclock in. It nothing game changer. 50-75 is the most you want your cpu to go and 80 is max you want to hit anything higher isn’t great for your cpu and will thermal throttle to try to get lower temps by reducing performance.

So you don't reckon this will increase my performance in games, do you? Like I mainly play Fortnite, which is heavily CPU based. because if not, I'll probably just upgrade some specs and overclock with the better specs.

 

[thomas4204]

So you don't reckon this will increase my performance in games, do you? Like I mainly play Fortnite, which is heavily CPU based. because if not, I'll probably just upgrade some specs and overclock with the better specs.

It might help by 30 FPS or something like that but your gonna want a bigger aio to overclock. I also mainly play Fortnite and I have a ryzen 5 3600 and my friend has a 10 gen i7 that boosts to 5.3 with his aio and a Rx 580 cause I couldn’t find any other card and he pulls 240 FPS solid in game and 360 in creative so once you do upgrade that aio it will most definitely help. I’m going down the same path as you.

 

[thomas4204]

It might help by 30 FPS or something like that but your gonna want a bigger aio to overclock. I also mainly play Fortnite and I have a ryzen 5 3600 and my friend has a 10 gen i7 that boosts to 5.3 with his aio and a Rx 580 cause I couldn’t find any other card and he pulls 240 FPS solid in game and 360 in creative so once you do upgrade that aio it will most definitely help. I’m going down the same path as you.

The faster you can get your cpu to run the more FPS you will get as long as your gpu isn’t slacking far behind

 

[Chandler1x]

It might help by 30 FPS or something like that but your gonna want a bigger aio to overclock. I also mainly play Fortnite and I have a ryzen 5 3600 and my friend has a 10 gen i7 that boosts to 5.3 with his aio and a Rx 580 cause I couldn’t find any other card and he pulls 240 FPS solid in game and 360 in creative so once you do upgrade that aio it will most definitely help. I’m going down the same path as you.

See Im really struggling because 1. I have no clue about PCs and 2. I get awful stutters and fps drops on this PC, which is a decent PC, just really lacking the RAM and AIO. like so many of my friends specs are worse than mine, and they get way better performance. I think I will go with the overclocking for now then, then upgrade the specs. I'm just wondering if there are any other issues with my PC or if its just the lack of ram speed and cooling that's making my performance suffer lol

 

[Chandler1x]

The faster you can get your cpu to run the more FPS you will get as long as your gpu isn’t slacking far behind

How do you reckon I go about the overclocking so?

 

[thomas4204]

See Im really struggling because 1. I have no clue about PCs and 2. I get awful stutters and fps drops on this PC, which is a decent PC, just really lacking the RAM and AIO. like so many of my friends specs are worse than mine, and they get way better performance. I think I will go with the overclocking for now then, then upgrade the specs. I'm just wondering if there are any other issues with my PC or if its just the lack of ram speed and cooling that's making my performance suffer lol

Ok here me out this is going to sound extremely weird but this was my issue. I had terrible FPS and frame drops because Fortnite was on a hard drive and I’m guessing the hard drive couldn’t keep up. Once I put Fortnite on a ssd it ran great.

 

[thomas4204]

How do you reckon I go about the overclocking so?

There is a few options. What I did was download a software called ryzen master and it automatically overclocking my cpu depending on the hottest core ect. Intel also has something like that or you can watch a video and follow that guide but I believe the main issue is the hdd because my pc is actually worse than your in almost every way and I get better FPS, but from experience I believe the issue is your hdd, and I don’t know how much of a overclock you can push out of that aio

 

[Chandler1x]

Ok here me out this is going to sound extremely weird but this was my issue. I had terrible FPS and frame drops because Fortnite was on a hard drive and I’m guessing the hard drive couldn’t keep up. Once I put Fortnite on a ssd it ran great.

I used to have fortnite on hdd months ago, but its 100% on ssd, I feel my ssd is just not great. my ssd currently is 250GB M.2 NVMe Fast Drive, like id say it could be terrible. but what do you mean my problem is hdd, should I uninstall the hdd or did you think fortnite was on hdd?

 

[thomas4204]

I used to have fortnite on hdd months ago, but its 100% on ssd, I feel my ssd is just not great. my ssd currently is 250GB M.2 NVMe Fast Drive, like id say it could be terrible. but what do you mean my problem is hdd, should I uninstall the hdd or did you think fortnite was on hdd?

Ahh my bad, I thought you only had a hdd, if you have a ssd then the only issue I can see would be the ram,

 

[Chandler1x]

Ahh my bad, I thought you only had a hdd, if you have a ssd then the only issue I can see would be the ram,

yeah Im really thinking the ram with its slow speeds are my main issue atm, I do really wanna upgrade my specs badly, but I don't really NEED TO, you think id run into any issues upgrading the ram with all of my current specs? like sizing-wise?

 

[thomas4204]

yeah Im really thinking the ram with its slow speeds are my main issue atm, I do really wanna upgrade my specs badly, but I don't really NEED TO, you think id run into any issues upgrading the ram with all of my current specs? like sizing-wise?

The only issue that could come across would be if you end up putting the bigger aio in the top of the case some ram is quite tall and will interfere physically with the ram

 

[Chandler1x]

The only issue that could come across would be if you end up putting the bigger aio in the top of the case some ram is quite tall and will interfere physically with the ram

I don't think Id go with the bigger aio, yet, because the case seems very limited. but maybe I could go with another better 120mm fan, if needed

 

[Karadjgne]

If you run a Prime95 test on that cpu, you need to run small fft with all AVX disabled. That'll give a stable 100% cpu load with minimal ram interference. It's basically a worst case scenario gaming test.

Be very careful with OC on the 9700k. You have a @ 140w capable cooler on a cpu that can hit 200w with nothing more than a simple locked core turbo setting. That's well beyond the capacity of that cooler to maintain working temps.

• Supports liquid cooling: 240mm radiator in the front panel
• Supports CPU cooler up to 155mm

That's your case. So you'll be limited to larger air like the Scythe Fuma 2 or beQuiet Darkrock TF. You'll not be able to use the better big air as they'll hit 160mm+

240mm rad in front is by far the best option. A 240mm AIO runs @ 250w capacity, so is large enough to moderate/maintain safe temps. What those temps are exactly will be determined by the quality of the aio. Some are definitely better than others, and price isn't a good judge.

 

[Chandler1x]

If you run a Prime95 test on that cpu, you need to run small fft with all AVX disabled. That'll give a stable 100% cpu load with minimal ram interference. It's basically a worst case scenario gaming test.

Be very careful with OC on the 9700k. You have a @ 140w capable cooler on a cpu that can hit 200w with nothing more than a simple locked core turbo setting. That's well beyond the capacity of that cooler to maintain working temps.

• Supports liquid cooling: 240mm radiator in the front panel
• Supports CPU cooler up to 155mm

That's your case. So you'll be limited to larger air like the Scythe Fuma 2 or beQuiet Darkrock TF. You'll not be able to use the better big air as they'll hit 160mm+

240mm rad in front is by far the best option. A 240mm AIO runs @ 250w capacity, so is large enough to moderate/maintain safe temps. What those temps are exactly will be determined by the quality of the aio. Some are definitely better than others, and price isn't a good judge.

So realistically, I shouldn't overclock atm? I was going to buy a new case, new ram and a new 240mm cooler, so I could overclock and so that my ram speeds are better.

 

[Karadjgne]

Realistically you are already on the 'just above comfortable' charts with a 9700k and a small 120mm AIO, the M22 is built for basically an upgrade from stock for a 4-6 thread locked cpu like an I5-9600.

The 9700k is decent at stock values, but climbs quickly in output wattage with turbo/OC on multiple/all cores.

Think of it like a 4bbl carburetor, you run around with good economy all day on 2 barrels, but step on the gas and open up those big secondaries and your gas milage goes in the toilet. A 9700k wattage output is the same theory, it down clocks turbo speeds as more cores are added, just to attempt to keep temps in check. Lock those cores to single core turbo and there's little to restrict the large temp gains from running amok.

Right now, your cpu is bouncing around the 95w mark in stock setup, lock the cores and it jumps closer to 130w, lock cores at a simple 5.0GHz OC and you'll hit around 200w, that's about double the heat output for all 8 cores to gain a measly 300MHz.

By comparison, my old i7-3770K was starting at a 3.9GHz turbo and 77w, and doubled its heat output at 4.9GHz, a full 1GHz OC.

If you lock cores at single core turbo, you could fully expect that little aio to be allowing gaming temps in the 80°~90°C+ range.

So No, I'd really advise against any OC other than for your own testing/education purposes, nothing on a more permanent basis. Not until you get a cooling solution, either air or liquid, that's able to accommodate the shear wattage outputs of that cpu.

Intels don't use ram the way Ryzens do, there's very little gains to be had with ram faster than the cpu memory controller, which on a 9th gen cpu is 2666MHz. I'd not bother going above 3200MHz, that's the current value king, above that there's almost no gains except with few software titles, mostly production types, just a higher price tag.

When you added the ssd, did you install windows with just that drive hooked up? Or did you also have the hdd installed as well. Many windows issues, even lowered fps can be laid at the feet of windows spanning multiple drives, you try and play a game from ssd, and windows keeps wanting to search the hdd for extra info.

 

[xxscienceboyxx]

The 9700k is a bit old of a CPU. At a similar price, you could get a 5800x which is better for gaming and also has hyperthreading.

 

[Karadjgne]

I'm a bit old too, doesn't make me worse than some young punk who is still 'wet behind the ears'. Just means I'm a little more limited when it comes to tasks like 'pushing a shovel'

The 9700k is still a respectable cpu, and will be for some time. Hyperthreading means very little if it's not used, and a full single core tasked thread is a better option than a hyperthreaded one in many cases.

 

[Chandler1x]

Tbh, I think for the meantime, I'll just get a slightly better 120mm aio, and probably upgrade my RAM, I feel like slow RAM speeds are my biggest issue right now. After that, I could probably do with a full upgrade on the specs, I just feel the PC at its current state, is underperforming in games like Fortnite and COD. which is the worst part, because as I said I mainly play Fortnite on this PC and the fps drops and stutters are insane(in regular games, not even stacked games). but if I do oc I will 100% run into issues.