will win98se lower my athlon XPs performance?

[Crashman]

GAWD my computer seems SLOW, I'm reading and writing a massive amount of data very quickly from huge non-fragmented files.



What's the frequency, Kenneth?

 

[Atolsammeek]

what skill do you need? 2 mins installing the 4into1? Then install everything else. That all I had to do with the both of my computers.

 

[Crashman]

That, my friend, is luck. Try finding out that the latest version of 4-in-1 doesn't want to install, or the system crashes when you do, and the version that came with the CD doesn't support some of your hardware. These things happen all too often. Then you go hunting. Finally you find something that works, and the system crashes all the time. You locate that problem to an IRQ conflict and move some cards around. Now it only crashes when you play games. So you dl the latest driver from nVidia, but that makes the problem worse. So finally you go back two drivers from the latest and that one works, etc, etc, etc.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

 

[Atolsammeek]

LOL You must be talking about computer that where built 4 to 5 years ago. And dont be getting scared of VIA from the way the other people talk. All my slot are full. I m not scared of VIA.

Another idea if you get a Shitty Board That was not built right or Got a no name brand cards. Trouble will happen Amd or Intel. I had it happen on my Moderola Modems which did not work on my P2 300 right or My amd 700 right. And have guy who installed the internet say they are crappy modems they dont work right. Are you going to blame VIA for that?

 

[Matisaro]

Crash builds older computers with older parts which are severly affected by the via bug, that is why his oppinion is so strong, and its a perfectly valid reason.

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[jiffy]

<font color=red>LOL wow the only differnice with my system and yours is Mine a Pro.</font color=red>

I miss my KR7A board, but hack this KT7A board is fast, and jumps around doing different things without any problems. And I don't feel rushed to get my DDR board back. I switch my Koolance water cooler over to a tower with lights and fan switches, it's awaiting hardware. I'm thinking of calling it little evil, or Danger zone, but my mommy doesn't like those name's, so I might take off the skull detail's and replace them with little pussy cats and call it Fluffy. Not.

 

[jiffy]

<font color=red>It has always been possible to build a solid VIA chipset system, by skill or luck, but not worthwhile for me (skill takes too much time, and I'm a little short on luck).</font color=red>

If I have any skill, I'm unaware of it. My gfUltra card is from Creative, and so is my Live card and my mobo isn't to young either. My point is the only driver's I have loaded are the one's that came with the hardware. The only updates I made was with windows.

I could update some driver's, either way I'm sure I wouldn't see any difference, I'm not much for testing. Seems to be if it ant broke don't fit it, unless your a speed freak, and if something doesn't work right from the start and you need to download a fix, then I think that's F up and skill will come into play, while one searches the Internet day and night for a fix.

Here I load my driver's as a Die hard windows98se user, and within an hour I'm back to a normal life. But here it seems WinXP gets the hands down to being the best gaming OS, more faster, stable, you name it, they clam it. I haven't rushed out to get WinXP, because I gut feeling, plus what I hear tells me that I will become a Internet junky, looking for a fix. And all for what? Until I feel WinXP kicks win98 ass in gaming will I switch. Sure my system is stable, it's built to be a gamer, not a server.

I know bla bla bla, anyway it was refreshing to hear you say 98SE still gives slightly to moderately better gaming performance on MOST systems. Maybe I'm not alone after all, were becoming a rare bread.

 

[Crashman]

Actually, luck is on your side, percentage wise, as most configurations are sucessful with minimal tweaking. It's those few that aren't that can drive a person mad! I service computers, so I happen to be the one who sees those few that require extra patience.
Yes, 98SE is faster. Most of the gaming pros know this. How much faster is very debatable and highly sucesptable to system configuration, but on my system it was over 5% and as high as 15% faster, ie higher frame rates, in games, depending on the game. And at the time XP didn't support a lot of my hardware (when it was first released reatail). It still doesn't support my TV card or modem. If it would have been a better performing OS, I might have simply used a different TV card and modem, but without any benefits, I dropped XP and went back to 98SE.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

 

[Crashman]

Thanks Matt.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

 

[Crashman]

Hmm, that P2-300, would that have been using the Appolo Pro chipset?

Anyway, it is possible to get defective parts. I don't have any experience with assembling anything newer than the KT133A. That's right, I don't have any KT266 systems. But when I saw other people having the same problems with the KT266 (original) that I had seen with the KT133/A, that put me off a little further. VIA made defective chipsets for 3 years, that's a lifetime in computer technology! And so did SiS. But unlike SiS, VIA denied the problems and continued to market their crap as the "greatest thing" (SiS admitted some problems and marketed their chipsets as the "cheapest thing"). When SiS finally steped up with the 735, we had a company that was so honest about their earlier flaws that hardly anyone took their latest product seriously. VIA on the other hand decieves people about both the quality and performance of their chipsets, engages in grossly anti-competitive practices that would be illegal if they were a U.S. company, and engages in patent fraud.

Even Intel backed away from Rambus when their patent fraud became obvious (although Intel claims other reasons).

Are their any truely honest corporations? Probably not. So a good rule of thumb for a person of integrety is to stay away from the worst of the scoundrals, pick the lesser of all evils.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

 

[FatBurger]

I never installed the 4in1's on my KT7a, and it was very stable. I guess I'm just that damn good

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Don't step in the sarcasm!

 

[jiffy]

I'm no service person, but I have learned a thing or two. My Ultra card took several attempts before I got it to work right, I almost shipped it back. A simple BIOS default was enough to get it working.
My live card, ouch, I pulled my hair out for a week, until I found the right setting for that.
I bought the A7M266 board when it first came out, never got it to play UT very good, or have I got any of my system to play it very well using Win2000, my Iwill board, it doesn't play UT very well either. Any one of these circumstances might be resolved with some work, may it be driver's, or different video card's and so on. Maybe some won't be able to be resolved, or a lot of hair pulling. O hell you find something that works and stick with it, haha. I would go mad trying to solve these problems. A part of me admirer's you position and another part could imagine it being very trying.
I gave the A7M266 to my girlfriend, I'll fix any problem in no time, but don't ask me to get it to play UT smooth. Rather get another mobo and keep my hair.

I wish you would have been around when I got jump for saying Win98 was faster for games, they showed no mercy for me and I couldn't hold them off, there were too many.

 

[Crashman]

Grrr, one of the fortunate many instead of the unfortunate few.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

 

[Kidane]

The only reason people like XP is that it's more stable, especially if you have a fast, unstable computer like most guys who promote VIA chipsets do. I can get away with 98SE because I have a stable computer to begin with.

I have an Abit KT7A-RAID (KT133A) with an Athlon-C 1.2 @ 1.33. I have yet to experience any random crashes, lockups, 686B bugs, SB Live compatibility issues, etc. I don't see what the big issue with VIA is. My system has been stable since day 1.

Kidane


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[Tiberius13]

I had my A7M266 playing UT fine with 128mb DDR, a SBLive, 1.33 AMD cpu, and an ATI AIW Radeon..... all on Win2k... maybe you had an nvidia based graphics card that was the issue? who knows?

 

[jiffy]

Yeah, it's a good chance it was the video card. It would be nice to have an ATI card to try out, when I have a problem running UT with a system.