News Windows 11 Insider builds offer FAQs based on your PC's specs

[Admin]

The latest Windows 11 Insider Build includes an FAQ list that can help you assess the performance of your PC's specifications, though it needs more depth than just the basics.

Windows 11 Insider builds offer FAQs based on your PC's specs : Read more

 

[evdjj3j]

From the generated FAQ

Is my GPU sufficient for (a) high end gaming and video experience?

A GPU with less than 4GB of memory MAY struggle with high-end gaming....

That's worthless info there.

 

[Giroro]

Maybe instead of trying to victim-blame each user's poor/slow Windows 11's experience on the hardware they could just, you know, speed up the frustratingly slow animations in their ugly, horribly designed GUI.

I promise Windows 11 feels exactly as slow and miserable on my overclocked 9900X machine with 96GB memory and an RTX 4080 as it does on my Intel N100 mini-PC with single channel DDR4. After speeding up the animations 5x-10x and both felt equally more responsive. But good luck convincing an IT admin to let you hack into the registry to get that done on a work machine.
Windows 11 feels slow because Windows 11 is constantly getting in your way, slowing you down, and making you wait for animations, just to look pretty. No amount of hardware can fix that design problem.
The slow animations make some sense in Chrome OS, where they are constantly hiding small load times as they swap data in/out of a tiny 4GB of memory, or are fetching it from a server.
But forcing those wait times to be baked into the interface into a full-powered PC just because they don't understand why elementary schools suddenly bought 15 Million $79 Chromebooks in 2020 instead of their $2500 surface studio laptops? They don't get it. They aren't even doing it to try and make extremely low-powered machines feel smoother, they're just doing it to rip off Chrome OS, because a graph told them people were buying Chrome OS. The copied the GUI, but not any of the reasons Google gained market share.

As a related aside - I actually did buy a school-specced 4GB/Celeron N4020 Windows netbook from Microcenter on Black Friday a year ago... because I thought it was a chromebook and I was too lazy to drive 80 minutes to return it.
It's totally unusable. The hardware is a real problem there - In that special kind of way I remember from the underpowered machines of 20 years ago. The kind of unusable where you would have to let the machine idle for 10ish minutes after boot and disable antivirus just to be able to smoothly move the mouse around an empty desktop and still it struggles to open a web browser. But a chromebook with those same specs boots pretty fast, and at least is mostly ok at web browsing - even with both CPU and memory constantly riding 100% utilization.

I wish windows would just give people a slider or something to speed up the animations. Maybe let non-admins turn off the space-wasting Chrome-ripoff round corners while they're at it. How in so many years have they not found a way to let users shrink or even move the taskbar? Is it really that hard to let non-admins customize the GUI?
Is it worth so much effort to preserve the sanctity of a product that people don't want to adopt? Is it really worth trying to force it as the only option?

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

And this score will be as meaningless now as then.

 

[rluker5]

As a related aside - I actually did buy a school-specced 4GB/Celeron N4020 Windows netbook from Microcenter on Black Friday a year ago... because I thought it was a chromebook and I was too lazy to drive 80 minutes to return it.
It's totally unusable. The hardware is a real problem there - In that special kind of way I remember from the underpowered machines of 20 years ago. The kind of unusable where you would have to let the machine idle for 10ish minutes after boot and disable antivirus just to be able to smoothly move the mouse around an empty desktop and still it struggles to open a web browser. But a chromebook with those same specs boots pretty fast, and at least is mostly ok at web browsing - even with both CPU and memory constantly riding 100% utilization.
sanctity of a product that people don't want to adopt? Is it really worth trying to force it as the only option?

A couple years back I picked up a 2c2t Alder Lake G6900 and it was also unuseable and performed considerably more janky with 32GB DDR5 and an Optane drive than my 2c4t 6w Broadwell tablet from 2015 with 4GB ram. With W11 you really need more than 2T. Just how it is made. Too much crap for just 2.

 

[BryanFRitt]

The second question outlines what applications can be run on your system based on its RAM capacity, using a few common ranges such as <4GB, 4GB-8GB, 8GB-16GB, and >16GB.

Which of these 4 categories would 8GB be in? It's a duplicated point in the above list. Number lines for fully categorizing items should be continuous without duplicates or gaps. Like x<4GB, 4GB<=x<8GB, 8GB<=x<16GB, and x>=16GB, where x is the amount of RAM, and groups are comma separated.

 

[adamboy64]

This is an interesting idea. I enjoyed seeing the WinSAT / Windows Experience Index score in Vista. I thought it was a neat form of benchmarking.

Actually, the further away we get from Windows Vista, the more I miss it.

 

[ICollectTransformers]

Maybe instead of trying to victim-blame each user's poor/slow Windows 11's experience on the hardware they could just, you know, speed up the frustratingly slow animations in their ugly, horribly designed GUI.

I promise Windows 11 feels exactly as slow and miserable on my overclocked 9900X machine with 96GB memory and an RTX 4080 as it does on my Intel N100 mini-PC with single channel DDR4. After speeding up the animations 5x-10x and both felt equally more responsive. But good luck convincing an IT admin to let you hack into the registry to get that done on a work machine.
Windows 11 feels slow because Windows 11 is constantly getting in your way, slowing you down, and making you wait for animations, just to look pretty. No amount of hardware can fix that design problem.
The slow animations make some sense in Chrome OS, where they are constantly hiding small load times as they swap data in/out of a tiny 4GB of memory, or are fetching it from a server.
But forcing those wait times to be baked into the interface into a full-powered PC just because they don't understand why elementary schools suddenly bought 15 Million $79 Chromebooks in 2020 instead of their $2500 surface studio laptops? They don't get it. They aren't even doing it to try and make extremely low-powered machines feel smoother, they're just doing it to rip off Chrome OS, because a graph told them people were buying Chrome OS. The copied the GUI, but not any of the reasons Google gained market share.

As a related aside - I actually did buy a school-specced 4GB/Celeron N4020 Windows netbook from Microcenter on Black Friday a year ago... because I thought it was a chromebook and I was too lazy to drive 80 minutes to return it.
It's totally unusable. The hardware is a real problem there - In that special kind of way I remember from the underpowered machines of 20 years ago. The kind of unusable where you would have to let the machine idle for 10ish minutes after boot and disable antivirus just to be able to smoothly move the mouse around an empty desktop and still it struggles to open a web browser. But a chromebook with those same specs boots pretty fast, and at least is mostly ok at web browsing - even with both CPU and memory constantly riding 100% utilization.

I wish windows would just give people a slider or something to speed up the animations. Maybe let non-admins turn off the space-wasting Chrome-ripoff round corners while they're at it. How in so many years have they not found a way to let users shrink or even move the taskbar? Is it really that hard to let non-admins customize the GUI?
Is it worth so much effort to preserve the sanctity of a product that people don't want to adopt? Is it really worth trying to force it as the only option?

I use a program called Start 11 that disables all of the animations and garbage, my windows 11 is zippy

 

[spongiemaster]

I use a program called Start 11 that disables all of the animations and garbage, my windows 11 is zippy

You can disable all the animations in system properties under performance and then visual effects. Has been like that for as long as I can remember.

 

[salgado18]

A couple years back I picked up a 2c2t Alder Lake G6900 and it was also unuseable and performed considerably more janky with 32GB DDR5 and an Optane drive than my 2c4t 6w Broadwell tablet from 2015 with 4GB ram. With W11 you really need more than 2T. Just how it is made. Too much crap for just 2.

I use Windows 11 on a Loki Zero, with configurable TDP on the fly. It has a 2c/4t Athlon 3050e with 8GB and an NVMe SSD.

At 11W, it is very responsive, boot times are great, Steam boots up rather quickly and browsing is good.

At 7W, it's terrible, in every aspect.

 

[cknobman]

Windows 11 is trash.
I was forced to upgrade on my work machines last year.
The good thing is my work laptops showed me just how bad Windows 11 is so I knew for sure not to upgrade my gaming rig.

Once Steam releases an official SteamOS distro thats what I will move to.
Microsoft has gone to pot all around.
No more of their Office 365, OneDrive, and currently looking to get off their email clients riddled with ads disguised as emails.

 

[Pierce2623]

Maybe instead of trying to victim-blame each user's poor/slow Windows 11's experience on the hardware they could just, you know, speed up the frustratingly slow animations in their ugly, horribly designed GUI.

I promise Windows 11 feels exactly as slow and miserable on my overclocked 9900X machine with 96GB memory and an RTX 4080 as it does on my Intel N100 mini-PC with single channel DDR4. After speeding up the animations 5x-10x and both felt equally more responsive. But good luck convincing an IT admin to let you hack into the registry to get that done on a work machine.
Windows 11 feels slow because Windows 11 is constantly getting in your way, slowing you down, and making you wait for animations, just to look pretty. No amount of hardware can fix that design problem.
The slow animations make some sense in Chrome OS, where they are constantly hiding small load times as they swap data in/out of a tiny 4GB of memory, or are fetching it from a server.
But forcing those wait times to be baked into the interface into a full-powered PC just because they don't understand why elementary schools suddenly bought 15 Million $79 Chromebooks in 2020 instead of their $2500 surface studio laptops? They don't get it. They aren't even doing it to try and make extremely low-powered machines feel smoother, they're just doing it to rip off Chrome OS, because a graph told them people were buying Chrome OS. The copied the GUI, but not any of the reasons Google gained market share.

As a related aside - I actually did buy a school-specced 4GB/Celeron N4020 Windows netbook from Microcenter on Black Friday a year ago... because I thought it was a chromebook and I was too lazy to drive 80 minutes to return it.
It's totally unusable. The hardware is a real problem there - In that special kind of way I remember from the underpowered machines of 20 years ago. The kind of unusable where you would have to let the machine idle for 10ish minutes after boot and disable antivirus just to be able to smoothly move the mouse around an empty desktop and still it struggles to open a web browser. But a chromebook with those same specs boots pretty fast, and at least is mostly ok at web browsing - even with both CPU and memory constantly riding 100% utilization.

I wish windows would just give people a slider or something to speed up the animations. Maybe let non-admins turn off the space-wasting Chrome-ripoff round corners while they're at it. How in so many years have they not found a way to let users shrink or even move the taskbar? Is it really that hard to let non-admins customize the GUI?
Is it worth so much effort to preserve the sanctity of a product that people don't want to adopt? Is it really worth trying to force it as the only option?

What “animations” are you on about?

 

[Pierce2623]

I use Windows 11 on a Loki Zero, with configurable TDP on the fly. It has a 2c/4t Athlon 3050e with 8GB and an NVMe SSD.

At 11W, it is very responsive, boot times are great, Steam boots up rather quickly and browsing is good.

At 7W, it's terrible, in every aspect.

That’s because the 3050e is still on GloFo 12nm and has terrible efficiency even compared to Zen2. On the Loki Mini Pro with the AMD Mendocino 4 core, Windows stays responsive right down to the minimum TDP.