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How much do YOU think this advanced operating environment is worth? Wait just one minute before you answer. Watch as Windows Home Premium integrates Lotus 1..2..3.. with Miami Vice. Now we can take this Ferrarri and paste it right into Windows Write. Now how much do you think Microsoft Windows is worth? Don't answer. Wait until you see Windows Write and Windows Paint and listen to what else you get at no extra charge. MS-DOS Executive, an appointment calender, a card file, a notepad, a clock, a control panel, a terminal, printSpool, a ram driver, AND CAN YOU BELIEVE IT Reversi! That's right all these features and reversi all for just... How much did you guess? Fiiive-Hundred, a thousand, EVEN MORE? No its just Ninety-Nine Dollars. THATS RIGHT! ITS $99! Its an incredible value but its true. Its Windows Home Premium from Microsoft. Order today. P.O Box 286-DOS, Except in Nebraska.
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That's how I plan on getting it for my home built gaming rig. Going to wait for a little while, maybe SP1, no need to rush unless they start releasing games I want that will not run on XP. Plan on getting the 64bit edition, put it on another HD and dual boot.
Q9650 with a GTX 285 on a Gigabyte MOBO
Q9650 with a GTX 285 on a Gigabyte MOBO
[citation][nom]hellwig[/nom]Has anyone ever called Window's tech support? I called once years ago, but only because my OEM tech support was giving me the run-around. Of course, they told me they couldn't help me, and that was that.In 15+ years of Windows computing, that was the only time I ever even thought of calling Microsoft. I'm just wondering how often people do it. Does the average consumer buying that fancy box at Best Buy even know Microsoft has tech support? Besides resetting a user password, what reason could you have for calling them? I doubt they help with 3rd party drivers or software, which is what most people run anyway.[/citation]
I use to work in Windows support about 10 years ago, some how I doubt you were given a "sorry we can't help you," without you first saying, "sorry, I'm not going to pay for support," because Microsoft will support OEM versions, but they will charge you to get that support (back when I was working in Windows support, ten years ago, it was $35 per incident + long distance charges as the OEM line was not a 800 number).
As to how often people call windows support, I've saw numbers listed around one hundred thousand a day ten years ago (sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less) with each tech taking between 15 to 25 callls a day (sometimes more, sometimes less, all depending on what calls people got).
And yes, the typical user should know that there is support as it is typically listed on the back of the box, in the documentation in the box, as well as on the website.
You'd also be surprised with what Microsoft support will help people with. There are a lot of subsystems within Windows that Windows support does cover and the SEs will do what they can to help out. They will try to help get hardware/software working, but they do put a disclaimer upfront to the person getting support that they can only help with adding and removing the drivers/software through MS wizards, if there are still issues with getting the hardware/software working properly after doing that they do point the person to the manufacturer, give the phone numbers for support, and try to make sure that the customer knows what needs to happen next in the way of support from the manufacturer.
I use to work in Windows support about 10 years ago, some how I doubt you were given a "sorry we can't help you," without you first saying, "sorry, I'm not going to pay for support," because Microsoft will support OEM versions, but they will charge you to get that support (back when I was working in Windows support, ten years ago, it was $35 per incident + long distance charges as the OEM line was not a 800 number).
As to how often people call windows support, I've saw numbers listed around one hundred thousand a day ten years ago (sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less) with each tech taking between 15 to 25 callls a day (sometimes more, sometimes less, all depending on what calls people got).
And yes, the typical user should know that there is support as it is typically listed on the back of the box, in the documentation in the box, as well as on the website.
You'd also be surprised with what Microsoft support will help people with. There are a lot of subsystems within Windows that Windows support does cover and the SEs will do what they can to help out. They will try to help get hardware/software working, but they do put a disclaimer upfront to the person getting support that they can only help with adding and removing the drivers/software through MS wizards, if there are still issues with getting the hardware/software working properly after doing that they do point the person to the manufacturer, give the phone numbers for support, and try to make sure that the customer knows what needs to happen next in the way of support from the manufacturer.
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Sweet, I was going to get Ultimate but that's a bit steep. I took a good look at the features I would be missing and honestly the extra features are all aimed towards businesses. Although it would be nice to be able to boot from a virtual hard drive but I can live with it.
Looks like I'll be spending $100 for Windows 7 Home Premium.
Looks like I'll be spending $100 for Windows 7 Home Premium.
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[citation][nom]rkaye[/nom]considering that apple dropped OS prices to $30, and Linux is $0, there's getting to be less and less reason to whip out a whopping $300 for a OS that is with less stability, and more bugs. My prediction is these prices will keep the pirates busy hacking it and corporate world pondering alternatives.[/citation]
Umm.. the new version of OSX is only $30 if you currently own 10.5 and is just an upgrade version. If you own 10.4, 10.6 will cost you $130. My girlfriend just found this out when she went to upgrade her Macbook Pro from 10.4 to 10.6.
Recently you were able to pre-order a Win7 upgrade for $49. A $20 difference is not ground-breaking, in my opinion. Also, since I don't use a Mac from day to day, the difference between 10.5 and 10.6, seemed to be more of a service pack than a whole new OS, unlike going from Vista to Win7. But, I can't make an informed judgement on that really as I only use my girlfriend's Macbook occasionally.
[citation][nom]captaincharisma[/nom]how? OEM versions just come in a cardboard sleeve with very little documentation. this is that same for every OEM version of windows.[/citation]
My OEM version of Vista for system builders (from Newegg) came in a plastic DVD case, with a small manual and definitely wasn't a plain cardboard sleeve.
Umm.. the new version of OSX is only $30 if you currently own 10.5 and is just an upgrade version. If you own 10.4, 10.6 will cost you $130. My girlfriend just found this out when she went to upgrade her Macbook Pro from 10.4 to 10.6.
Recently you were able to pre-order a Win7 upgrade for $49. A $20 difference is not ground-breaking, in my opinion. Also, since I don't use a Mac from day to day, the difference between 10.5 and 10.6, seemed to be more of a service pack than a whole new OS, unlike going from Vista to Win7. But, I can't make an informed judgement on that really as I only use my girlfriend's Macbook occasionally.
[citation][nom]captaincharisma[/nom]how? OEM versions just come in a cardboard sleeve with very little documentation. this is that same for every OEM version of windows.[/citation]
My OEM version of Vista for system builders (from Newegg) came in a plastic DVD case, with a small manual and definitely wasn't a plain cardboard sleeve.
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What Santiagoanders said is very important to know. OEM licenses are not exactly what you want or should be working with. From what I understand, re-installation of the OS can be problematic using OEM.
Still the price is quite good and when compared to Vista is a great price all things considered.
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Still the price is quite good and when compared to Vista is a great price all things considered.
Monica S
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http://www.sebecomputercare.com/?p=10
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never had a version of an OS that was not OEM and never had any issues with installing them
reminds me of when i used to work for HP tech support. they had a rant where it said all 3rd-party software was not compatible with an OEM version of windows. gotta love HP
reminds me of when i used to work for HP tech support. they had a rant where it said all 3rd-party software was not compatible with an OEM version of windows. gotta love HP
Just to clarify for some people that are confused about OEM copies: There is almost no difference between a clean install with an OEM version and a clean install with a retail version (or Open License, or NFR, or Action Pack, etc.) The OEM version simply has the capability to be pre-installed using the OPK. Also, the keys for all the versions mentioned will only work with their respective versions (e.g. you can't use an OEM key for a retail copy or an Action Pack key for an OEM copy, etc.)
The reason some people have trouble reactivating OEM copies that came with their PC is that manufacturers like Dell and HP install pre-activated copies using a special key - not the key stuck to your case. This can make upgrades fail if you use a retail upgrade copy, and it will almost always require a call to M$ for a clean install activation - even if it's on the exact same hardware. Usually you won't have this problem if you use the Dell or HP restore process instead of booting from the OEM disc, but then you get all the crap that comes with it.
The reason some people have trouble reactivating OEM copies that came with their PC is that manufacturers like Dell and HP install pre-activated copies using a special key - not the key stuck to your case. This can make upgrades fail if you use a retail upgrade copy, and it will almost always require a call to M$ for a clean install activation - even if it's on the exact same hardware. Usually you won't have this problem if you use the Dell or HP restore process instead of booting from the OEM disc, but then you get all the crap that comes with it.
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I've used nothing but OEM versions every single time I've built a computer. I've never had an issue reinstalling them on any of the machines I've built for myself, family or friends. I also built a system for a guy at work who's motherboard died a year or so later and I replaced an Asus board with a Gigabyte one and the OEM Vista reinstalled and activated without any issue even with the new motherboard.
The only time I've ever had an issue was where I swapped mobos and didn't do an install. In that one instance, XP complained when I started the system and all I did was just call MS and they gave me the code to fix it.
The only time I've ever had an issue was where I swapped mobos and didn't do an install. In that one instance, XP complained when I started the system and all I did was just call MS and they gave me the code to fix it.
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I've used nothing but OEM versions every single time I've built a computer. I've never had an issue reinstalling them on any of the machines I've built for myself, family or friends. I also built a system for a guy at work who's motherboard died a year or so later and I replaced an Asus board with a Gigabyte one and the OEM Vista reinstalled and activated without any issue even with the new motherboard.
The only time I've ever had an issue was where I swapped mobos and didn't do an install. In that one instance, XP complained when I started the system and all I did was just call MS and they gave me the code to fix it.
The only time I've ever had an issue was where I swapped mobos and didn't do an install. In that one instance, XP complained when I started the system and all I did was just call MS and they gave me the code to fix it.
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It does Come with a DVD case + Manual.
I got 3 Oem Version of Vista Home Premium from Micro Center.
I got 3 Oem Version of Vista Home Premium from Micro Center.
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[citation][nom]teaguejb[/nom]Wait a tic.... Isn't it true that the activation on an OEM version of windows will only work once? By that I mean, if you have to call microsoft to get an authorization code...won't they tell you your version of the software can only be activated once? I've rebuilt several times with my retail copy of Win XP. Each time I've had to call for an authorization code, there isn't a problem. I have been under the impression I wouldn't be able to do this with an OEM license. Am I wrong?[/citation]
Yes, you are wrong. Otherwise no one would be able to re-activate... it's all OEM in one way or another if you think about it. I have used multiple OEM licensed versions of WINDOWS with rebuilds with out any trouble. I've had to call MS phone activation a time or two, but just tell them the mobo fried and it's all good.
Yes, you are wrong. Otherwise no one would be able to re-activate... it's all OEM in one way or another if you think about it. I have used multiple OEM licensed versions of WINDOWS with rebuilds with out any trouble. I've had to call MS phone activation a time or two, but just tell them the mobo fried and it's all good.
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[citation][nom]santiagoanders[/nom]By the way an OEM Windows license is NOT the proper license for a do-it-yourself build. And I quote from Microsoft's OEM partner center website: http://oem.microsoft.com/script/co [...] eid=563841"Microsoft retail software licenses are the appropriate licenses for the do-it-yourself market. OEM System Builder software is not intended for this use, unless the PC that is assembled is being resold to another party.""OEM System Builder SoftwareMust be preinstalled on a PC and sold to another unrelated party...Cannot be transferred from the PC on which it is preinstalled...Must be preinstalled onto a new PC using the OPK."[/citation]
Sell it to yourself, you sap!
Sell it to yourself, you sap!
[citation][nom]Eccentric909[/nom]Umm.. the new version of OSX is only $30 if you currently own 10.5 and is just an upgrade version. If you own 10.4, 10.6 will cost you $130.[/citation]
Actually, it's the same DVD. If you buy the $30 version, you can do a clean install or upgrade from 10.5. If you don't have 10.5, just back up your apps and documents.
Can't wait to get Win 7 Pro in the mail for my gaming rig!
Actually, it's the same DVD. If you buy the $30 version, you can do a clean install or upgrade from 10.5. If you don't have 10.5, just back up your apps and documents.
Can't wait to get Win 7 Pro in the mail for my gaming rig!
I guess I will have to buy this upgrade. i like to have the full install, not just the upgrade. I know in past versions up to Windows XP, they would sell upgrades and not tell people it could be used a s a full install. I don't know if Vista or 7 can be used that way. 140$ for the OEM Pro, that is not bad. I have a computer running Vista, because it came with it. I have been tempted to take it back to XP but I might just go forward to 7 on it. I always worry about compatibility after trying Vista. I want my key programs to work which is Office 2007 and the Adobe Creative Suite 4 Master Collection. I have heard of some people haveing difficulties getting Adobe to install on Vista, hopefully thier won't be any problems with 7.
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