Windows 7's XP Mode Requires 2 GB RAM

[Guest]

If the virtual XP OS runs in Windows 7, is based on Microsoft Virtual PC, it does not need virtual technology to be present.
Otherwise Intel would have gone with Virtual PC instead, which only needs 384MB of ram,and 32MB of Vram allocated (and no VT) for XP.

Besides, XP is fast, but not with all those services running. So a lot will need to be disabled which will speed up and improve performance, and at the same time increase security and decrease load.

As far as running XP in a virtual environment without VT technology, the operating system will still be slower than on a system where XP is booted.

I see no benefits in running XP from a virtual environment, apart from legacy issues.
But then,many programs that run on XP run on Vista, and possibly will run on Win7 too.

 

[Sicundercover]

[citation][nom]IzzyCraft[/nom]2gigs wow 30 dollars maybe... depending on type...[/citation]

240 pin ddr2 just about every manufacture out there.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170147%201052108080%20105233070%201052307859&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=BESTMATCH

 

[yoda8232]

Makes total sense, RAM is so cheap so it's not that bad.

 

[kato128]

[citation][nom]Mr_Man[/nom]Run on a what? I'm pretty sure "decent netbook" is an oxymoron.[/citation]

My dell mini 9 runs windows 7 quite nicely (with aero and everything) and I haven't even upgraded it to 2gb ram yet.

 

[themike]

[citation][nom]demonhorde665[/nom]hmm seems liekmy future willa vhe 3 pcs , now ... 1 new win7 pc , for latest games and 3d apps , a xp machine for slightly older games that crap out on 64 bit win 7, and a even older pc for even older games that crap out on xp. yeck i was already contemplating building a "new" oldtech machine using single core athy's and low end parts ( and digging up my old gf 4) i suppose now i may find my self either building 2 such computers or in teh least getign this "Old" comp a 1t byte hard drive so i can dual boot and still avhe all the room my older games would need , doing this i could give it dual boot to xp or win 98 , just seems to be harder being a retro gamer , and goign to every new OS release, oh adn tont tell em aobut compatibilities modes LOL try rungin Resident evil 2 or mechwarrior 3 on compatiblity mode in xp at best teh experience is buggy to say the least , hionce why i'm looking to build a low cost "old" machine for running win 98.[/citation]

Just letting you know win98 dosent boot on a computer with 1 GB of RAM or more normally. These guys might have a solution though:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f7/windows-98se-more-than-1gb-ram-196102/

 

[apache_lives]

see this is what i dont get - why do people still use 512mb 1gb etc when ram is STILL DIRT CHEAP - 8GB INCLUDED (DDR2 atleast)

 

[kato128]

[citation][nom]apache_lives[/nom]see this is what i dont get - why do people still use 512mb 1gb etc when ram is STILL DIRT CHEAP - 8GB INCLUDED (DDR2 atleast)[/citation]

People are cheapskates and don't want to spend money on their computer. There also is this attitude among most users that its like a car you buy it and it will last for 10 years.

 

[buzznut]

WORTH IT!

 

[Sicundercover]

[citation][nom]kato128[/nom]People are cheapskates and don't want to spend money on their computer. There also is this attitude among most users that its like a car you buy it and it will last for 10 years.[/citation]

Then again how many people do you see driving around in junkers?

I think they still call them hoopdees but Im starting to get old.

 

[kato128]

[citation][nom]Sicundercover[/nom]Then again how many people do you see driving around in junkers?I think they still call them hoopdees but Im starting to get old.[/citation]

Quite a lot actually and the car doesn't have to be rust covered and from the seventies to count either. Take note of how many mid to late ninties cars are on the road and then remember that those are all 10-15 years old.

 

[seboj]

[citation][nom]buzznut[/nom]WORTH IT![/citation]

But will it blend?

 

[kato128]

[citation][nom]seboj[/nom]But will it blend?[/citation]

Everything blends with blendtec 😀

 

[silversurfernhs]

will we be able to use the license for an external (from software i mean) installation of XP on another computer.... i wonder if we get 2 seperate keys...

 

[alentor]

[citation][nom]LATTEH[/nom]if XP takes a lot i wonder how much win 7 takes (i dont know because i didnt get to try the beta because i didnt want to lose date) either way im probably still gonna get win 7[/citation]
installed 7000 and 7100, its takes 11Gbs; p

 

[Guest]

People like me still have XP running because of the high performance and low resources that it requires. There are stripped down, blazing fast versions of XP out there that are less than 300MB in size. Finally an OS exists without bloat that is stable and doesn't get in your way.

It makes sense why so many are hesitating to switch to Windows 7. And now they offer an XP mode requiring 2 GB of RAM. This is just ridiculous. To the hardcore user, every MB of RAM counts. Of course it's obvious that virtualising an OS within Windows 7 will require even more resources, but this is just the wrong implementation. Virtualising will ALWAYS be slower and more resource intensive. How about innovating a bit and allowing fast dual-OS switching by something like unloading the main Vista system elements and loading XP into the empty overhead?

 

[rags_20]

Most people don't have less than 2GB these days.

 

[captaincharisma]

im not surprised because all other virtual machine programs need huge amounts of ram too

 

[Guest]

Bull! My 1GB RAM, 7900GT, amd 64 2000+ ran Windows 7 without a hitch, very responsive and fast - no problem running multiple programs. I do admit, however, that 7900GT was not sufficient to run full Aero stuff, but that's a graphic card and definitelly not RAM and processor. And for the sake of it, fresh install took 6.2GB rather than 8 or 10GB that are "minimal" requirement for Win7.

 

[gamerk316]

So...for those companies that are using PC's that shipped with 512MB and Win2k, and want to keep XP support, there is no upgrade path?

XP mode died with the 2GB requirement.

 

[hillarymakesmecry]

How can you people even read demonhorde's posts. They're incomprehensible to me. Horrendous grammar and run on sentences are killing me. Go back to school.

 

[A Stoner]

not the x64 version after all, too bad. I would hate to have to give up my 12GB of ram. Maybe they will include x64XPm at a later date?

 

[tenor77]

Yeah emulation is never as efficient as the real thing.

Anyway for anyone that has a problem with this (I'm just glad it's in there)
1 word: Partition

 

[FlayerSlayer]

For $1600, I got a Core i7 920 system with 6 gb ram. I think I'll be fine.

 

[Sicundercover]

[citation][nom]gamerk316[/nom]So...for those companies that are using PC's that shipped with 512MB and Win2k, and want to keep XP support, there is no upgrade path?XP mode died with the 2GB requirement.[/citation]

Really honestly? Your expecting Win 2k machines built ten years ago to be supported by Microsoft now?

 

[mavroxur]

If you're running Windows 7 on a machine that's actually ideal for that kind of operating system, you should be running 2gb+ of ram anyhow. Common sense?