[SOLVED] Windows not running rams in their full Mhz speed

Feb 21, 2020
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hello hardware experts... plz help

my Mobo is GA-H61M-DS2 (rev. 4.0)

Info regarding memory Rams

i am using Corsair 4gb memory
Corsair Vengeance CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB Single Module DDR3 1600MHz
Computer Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Voltage 1.5 Volts
Memory Standard DDR3-1600/PC3-12800
Pins 240-pin
Buffered/Unbuffered Unbuffered
Memory Configuration: Single Module

-SPD Latency: 9-9-9-24; SPD Speed: 1600MHz; SPD Voltage: 1.5V, SPD Speed: 1333MHz
Frequency
1333 MHz (Specified), 1600 MHz (Test)

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Memory/High-Performance-Memory/Vengeance®-—-4GB-Single-Module-DDR3-Memory-Kit/p/CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9#tab-tech-specs


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By default it runs in DRAM freq - 665mhz

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after OC (Overclocking -XMP) corsair DRAM freq goes to - 798mhz
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in this (XMP) change thru Bios - advanced memory settings, i notice little performance boost.


Now...
yesterday in nxt empty slot i inserted another DDR3 memory stick of kingston.. same size of 4gb.. same freq...

Memory: 4096 MBytes @ 798 MHz, 11-11-11-28
- 4096 MB PC12800 DDR3 SDRAM - Kingston 99P5474-013.A00LF

https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KVR16N11S8_4.pdf

Maximum Clock Speed (MHz): 800 (JEDEC)
Maximum Transfer Speed (MHz): DDR3-1600
Maximum Bandwidth (MB/s): PC3-12800
Module Voltage: 1.5V
CAS Latencies Supported: 6 7 8 9 10 11
Timings @ Max Frequency (JEDEC): 11-11-11-28
Memory Capacity (MB): 4096



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Now one thing i notice that the rams are not running in 798Mhz DRAM Freq

if i use them separately one by one than they run in that 798mhz.. but when i use them together.. they fall back to 665mhz


An screenshot of kingston running alone - its DRAM speed also in that 798mhz (note it does not have any OC (XMP) option..
that 798 is its default speed ....wherz in corsair i have to OC (XMP) thru bios settings to make it 798mhz aka 1600mhz speed

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Now see when i use both ram... its speed falls to Dram 665mhz aka 1333mhz

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Why this happening ? even both ram are of same size & frequency !
is this due to some of its diff Timings/ Latencies.. just check below pic.. at 800 speed both have diff CL /CAS
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9-9-9-24
11-11-11-28
but at 665or666 they matched 9-9-9-24 ... is this why both ram running in that matched speed..timings.. instead of 800mhz freq



memory configuration has changed to the lower speed when both rams r installed
can Change RAM timings from 11-11-11-28 to 9-9-9-24 t make them run at 800mhz
thru bios settings !

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Solution
Your ram has different timings, they will default to the lowest settings. You might be able to find some used CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB on Ebay to match your original ram, they don't make the DDR3 9-9-9-24 timings ram anymore. I Maxed my old socket 775 boards out with 16GB and mine will not run faster than the CPU. I have a quad that runs at 1600Mhz and my ram runs 1600 MHz @ 9-9-9-24, the other CPU runs at 1333Mhz but because it is 1600Mhz ram the timings auto adjusted to 8-8-8-20 @ 1333Mhz. ,Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 : BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00, Great ram, they don't make it anymore. Low density will work in just about any DDR3 board.
DDR means Double Data Rate. This means the RAM sends twice the amount of data compared to SDRAM (Single Data RAM).

This means you double the Base Frequency (in your case 800MHz) to calculate the "Effective Clock", which in your case is 1600MHz.

Some programs read the base frequency, other read the effective clock - so you can have two different programs on one PC showing the two different frequencies, and both are correct - as long as they are for example 800 and 1600 MHz.
Motherboards don't even neccesarily show one or the other, it can differ between manufacturers.

Task Manager just report the data it is fed, which can be differnt on different motherboard models.

If CPU-z on your PC reads ~800MHz, that means your RAM are running 1600MHz, as CPU-z always displays the base frequency, which you always multiply by two for DDR RAM.

As far as I can see, your RAM are running exactly as they are supposed to.


EDIT: I got lost between some of your photos, and overlooked the 667 MHz part.

Just ignore that I wrote they were running the right speed :p
 
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they wont work since one of them use cas9 to get 800 and the other use case 11 so you have choice use the cas 11 or 9 or get new set that will match your system need and they go toghether at 665 because they use same jedec settings .
Is there any tweak/settings in bios or some app which can match their time and run them in 800mhz ! Will it work smoothly.

And is this corsair better than Kingston??

I mean at max latency/timing 9-9-9-24 it give default DRAM speed of 665mhz and to get 800mhz I need to do overclock/XMP it.

Wherz Kingston default DRAM speed is of 800mhz at 11-11-11-28.... There nothing like XMP /profile settings for this ram.


Plz reply fassst...as time is passing to return back this ram..or else it won't be...money waste
 

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Your ram has different timings, they will default to the lowest settings. You might be able to find some used CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB on Ebay to match your original ram, they don't make the DDR3 9-9-9-24 timings ram anymore. I Maxed my old socket 775 boards out with 16GB and mine will not run faster than the CPU. I have a quad that runs at 1600Mhz and my ram runs 1600 MHz @ 9-9-9-24, the other CPU runs at 1333Mhz but because it is 1600Mhz ram the timings auto adjusted to 8-8-8-20 @ 1333Mhz. ,Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 : BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00, Great ram, they don't make it anymore. Low density will work in just about any DDR3 board.
 
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