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I'm one of those wealthy pigs you talked about, but a Porsche and a telsa are not luxury cars. But if I'm forking out $75,000+ for a car, it better have wall-to-wall cup holders. And plenty of soft animal skin and rare, endangered wood.

That speaks to your humanity. So much for ideals and helping others... Screw it. The stain of capitalism has besmirched you.

As for the rest of your comments, it sounds like you don't like Metro either... BUT can you imagine having MS Word or VLC baked into a Metro-app? Then you'd be forced to use it. If you look at their strategy, it looks more and more like they want to phase out the native end of development and go all .NET/Metro/WPF/etc. XBox Live apps use a .NET-like style. The Mobile stuff I think is .NET-like. Metro apps are .NET-like. I'm not saying they will, but it seems they are pushing their platform that way. I'd bet we will see Starter/Lite versions of Windows hit the market without the native stuff in the coming years. Further making us walk and talk like Microsoft. I see Metro as another step in that direction. So usability and the AppStore aside, I'm scared Microsoft might be thinking of locking their platform down... They've been waiting patiently... building .net-developer base and improving performance. Windows 9 or 10 might be the death of MFC, Win32, and other older APIs... but that's all speculation and my paranoia. And I know what you'll say... It's about change and moving forward... On this point, I'm an old, hard-minded man stuck on native code. That will be hard to let go.
 
Yes, old habits are hard to break, but guess what- people don't use cobol/fortran or punch cards like they did. Why? Because better tools were developed. Probably the biggest attack vector is from MS having to support out-of-date technologies, not to mention poor coding practices of developers.

Can you give me a reason why MS shouldn't push their technologies into the market place. If it doesn't work, people won't use it. .NET seems to be working fine and getting stronger, plus I like the fact I can code an app in VB and have it be just as powerful as any other language (remember when VB was looked down upon by C++ coders?). And while I'm on point, the 32bit world just needs to go away, too.

I did not say I didn't like Metro and I can't render a judgment on it until it's a fully released and matured technology. What I did say is that I don't use the Metro interface unless I am playing with the integrated apps (music, video, pictures, etc.); otherwise, I use the same-old interface MS has had out for decades- the desktop.

Office 15 is coming out soon, and it has been revamped visually to more fit in with the new design language at Redmond. I don't have access to the preview so, again, I can't render a judgment on it.

Now let's to the part where you became a commie: my wife and I worked EXTREMELY HARD to get to where we are today. Instead of dropping out of school or attending binge parties and destroying our minds, we spent our time learning and working on perfecting what we did. Neither of us grew up rich and both had our share of ramen. That hard work got us to a place where we can do things we like and aren't dependent on massah in the white house/congress for our daily bread, and we're sick and tired of dirty-assed hoodlums and breeders insisting that they are entitled to OUR MONEY. Who in their right mind would think that being POOR is better than being RICH? Apparently there's also a lot of hypocrisy out there since $1.5 billion was spent on trying to win that Mega Millions jackpot a little more than a week ago...gee, I thought it's supposed to be EVIL to be rich...oh wait I get it- it's GOOD when you get rich for doing NOTHING, but it's BAD when you spend a lifetime doing hard work to actually achieve something.
 
NewbieTechGodII... If you can in good conscience spend $75000 on a car... a car... a car... and feel good with yourself... Give yourself a pat on the back and tell the world you're a success financially. Thumb your nose and snub others for wanting more for society. This idea of greed and self indulgence is embedded in our society and you've bought in, following the carrot. We can have so much more collectively if we didn't want so much for ourselves. Why not get a reasonable car and put the rest toward an ideal or sponsoring a start-up company you believe in or help find a cure for something or anything else? You don't because to do so requires work and more sacrifice (in standard of living, time, etc.). You've worked hard to get where you are and don't want to take a "college risk." Those are for young people and people like me. So enjoy your $10 Starbux in your overpriced ego-automobile tweeting away on the latest gadget telling friends about how to live the "good life." The economy needs you, but society really doesn't.

As for your comments on the topic, there has to be a reason why most great apps don't embrace abstracting onto an interpreted runtime environment like the clr or jvm. Performance, control, and quality. To make a hello-world app in .NET WinForms yields a 20 meg process at runtime sad to say. What a waste of resources. Then you have apps like uTorrent and VLC that go out of their way to avoid being a memory hog and improve performance. Native code gives us unfeathered control while .NET/JAVA/etc. restrict us. While resources are growing more abundant, there's no need to waste them. Chrome, FireFox, Maya, 3D Studio Max, Photoshop, serious 3d games, and so many more use native. What's really strange is Microsoft pushing everyone to use .NET/WPF/etc for years when they don't use it as much as they want others to. Word, Excel, Explorer, and so on use them in moderation because they're use is in helping others extend their products. To get rid of native for interpreted would require us all to have a 32-core beast of a system to handle the wasted resources and computing demands. So no... .NET is not as wonderful end-all solution for the future... And I don't want Microsoft getting any ideas that it is. Keep it however. It's a great technology, but keep native APIs too. Or see the death of their platform.
 
[citation][nom]WTFsWrong[/nom]NewbieTechGodII... If you can in good conscious spend $75000 on a car... a car... a car... and feel good with yourself... Give yourself a pat on the back and tell the world you're a success financially. Thumb your nose and snub others for wanting more for society. This idea of greed and self indulgence is embedded in our society and you've bought in, following the carrot. We can have so much more collectively if we didn't want so much for ourselves. Why not get a reasonable car and put the rest toward an ideal or sponsoring a start-up company you believe in or help find a cure for something or anything else? You don't because to do so requires work and more sacrifice (in standard of living, time, etc.). You've worked hard to get where you are and don't want to take a "college risk." Those are for young people and people like me. So enjoy your $10 Starbux in your overpriced ego-automobile tweeting away on the latest gadget telling friends about how to live the "good life." The economy needs you, but society really doesn't.As for your comments on the topic, there has to be a reason why most great apps don't embrace abstracting onto an interpreted runtime environment like the clr or jvm. Performance, control, and quality. To make a hello-world app in .NET WinForms yields a 20 meg process at runtime sad to say. What a waste of resources. Then you have apps like uTorrent and VLC that go out of their way to avoid being a memory hog and improve performance. Native code gives us unfeathered control while .NET/JAVA/etc. restrict us. While resources are growing more abundant, there's no need to waste them. Chrome, FireFox, Maya, 3D Studio Max, Photoshop, serious 3d games, and so many more use native. What's really strange is Microsoft pushing everyone to use .NET/WPF/etc for years when they don't use it as much as they want others to. Word, Excel, Explorer, and so on use them in moderation because they're use is in helping others extend their products. To get rid of native for interpreted would require us all to have a 32-core beast of a system to handle the wasted resources and computing demands. So no... .NET is not as wonderful end-all solution for the future... And I don't want Microsoft getting any ideas that it is. Keep it however. It's a great technology, but keep native APIs too. Or see the death of their platform.[/citation]

So what's a sensible car? How much of MY MONEY am I ALLOWED to keep? The WORST THING for society is the WELFARE STATE. Alexandra Pelosi, daughter of nancy pelosi, did a mini-documentary on welfare, and to a person, not one of them wanted to work- they wanted their obama bucks. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him how to fish and he never goes hungry.

But let's stay on your rant about the 'evils' of capitalism: my state charges 7.75% sales tax, so my luxo car brings in well over $5K to the states' coffers. your suggestion of a 'sensible' car (which would be what- a yaris?), would bring in a measly $1300. Now which one do you think gives more money for your bleeding heart, budget-busting policies?

And then you talk about start-ups, and clearly you don't know what you're talking about here, either. I employ a maid service, landscapers, and various other construction workers- all of which were started by individuals with drive and not by some friggin' government agency. The point is, I CHOOSE WHERE TO SPEND MY MONEY, not some asshole in DC.

So let's talk about 'curing some disease'- how many hundreds of billions have been spent on cancer, aids, and the like? funny- I still see these diseases alive and well.

Wait I forgot something- when people like me buy goods and services, we are the ones helping to maintain and create jobs. Do you think that cars, yachts, and planes appear out of thin air? PEOPLE are employed to build those things. People are EMPLOYED maintaining those things. The luxury boat business really took a nose dive during billy clinton's term when he decided to 'punish' the rich by imposing ridiculous extra taxes on such items. All he did was move a bunch of people out of the marketplace which resulted in lost sales and eventually, lost jobs and closures of businesses.

And then you act like I'm some greedy, selfish bastard (as if that's bad). Unless you're working for the IRS, you don't know squat about my finances (hell I could be making all of this up for all you know), therefore, you don't know anything about my charitable contributions.

Where do you think the money for venture capital and philanthropy comes from- the poor? No, it comes from people who busted their ass and took risks to make it big.

Seriously, wouldn't you be happier in russia or china or cuba- you know, the lands of opportunity and freedom and equality? JFC I can't understand the lot of you.
 
NewbieTechGodII... Like I said "The economy needs you." Your taxes and expensive purchases help drive this car forward and pay for social programs. The crazy thing is people think paying more taxes is the only way to help society... I never mentioned Uncle Sam because he wastes money and has a lot of bad policies... I did speak to more personal endeavors that you could put your attention and "extra" capital toward. Those were examples. You need to read "Economic Hit Man" and "Money Changers" before you can speak so highly about your beloved capitalism. Come up with a good solid reason for centralized banking and fractional-reserve banking greater than ten to one? If you really want to talk about the greatness of capitalism, you need to read into energy accounting first. Many great economists believe it's the next stage in capitalism, but enough off topic talk. You are a good person. I can feel it resonating from your words. :)
 
WTFsWrong: The comies need you. You stuped uni-comunists only drem about it becouse you didnt have to live in communist country. I earn 25K jet would love to see you and all your money sucking retards be gonne. I cant stand lazy people like yourself. All you want is other peole money jet when comies like you have money they NEVER give it. Go to your rich comies who only love to spand other peoples money jet they never sopand their money. Liberalism is a mental disorder and you are obviusly a ritard. All i want is not having to pay your medical bills and sounds like you will need a lot of them.
 
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