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More info?)
Oh.... Good, thanks!! (see below)
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:efzvIyZKFHA.3832@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You are welcome. I'm glad I didn't have to explain those Exports. I did
> post them in MIME, hoping they would not break when copied to Notepad.
> Apparently, they did not. OK, then.
>
> Well, it's a mystery how the site knows whether a thing is installed, as
> it may do it differently per critical. It seems, for Q888113, it is
> using the obvious one of those Registry keys.
>
> To know whether Q888113 is installed...
>
> (1) Look through the docs...
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS05-015.mspx
> Do you have the files & version it may mention?
** I did look for the files to be listed, and I looked & looked, followed
links, but couldn't find any listing.
>
> (2) "START, Run, SFC" after each install/update. It will list the files
> that were changed. Mine showed the following for Q888113 & the devil
> KB891711...
PCR, I'm lost w/SFC.... I have tried to figure it out, I can restore files
from OS cd, and therefore it is useful.
(see below)
>
> ....Quote SFCLog.txt...........
> [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
> hlink.dll Updated 5.0.4513 10/20/00 5.2.3790.22 11/16/04
**Yes, have this file in above location, w/date same as yours
> No
> [C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS]
> HLINK.DLL Added 5.2.3790.22 11/16/04
**OK, have above file HLINK.DLL in C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
** So, really NO files were added, HLink.dll was updated and it was added to
another location and that's it ??
> [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711]
> KB891711.EXE Added 4.10.2222 2/22/05
> Q891711.DLL Added 4.10.2222 2/18/05
** Don't have the above of course, after the uninstall it left an empty
folder and I trashed it too!!
> ....EOQ............................
>
> Apparently, it didn't catch the .inf files (they each have one).
>
> (3) You could look inside "C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\W98\888113UN.INF". But
> you'll need to know .inf-talk. Note it does mention itself & HLINK.DLL.
> Here it is...
** YES, I do have the INF file, yeah!! I didn't think of a .inf.... but I'm
learning. I could actually re-install from the .inf file ? But, I'm OK!!
** I guess Windows UD has a way... like I said, it wasn't offered to me, and
I restored the Registry, somehow I think that's odd. The .xml log says,
"both were successful and so does not my History at WU.... they know I don't
have the devel anymore.
Thats PCR Pro, maybe you can help me understand & work w/SFC sometime!!
Star
>
> ..........Quote of 888113UN.INF...........
> ; 888113UN.INF
> ; This is the Setup information file to uninstall the Windows KB888113
> Update:
>
> [version]
> AdvancedINF = 2.5, %AdvPackWarn%
> signature=$CHICAGO$
>
> [DefaultInstall]
> DelFiles=WinUPD.delFiles,WinUPD.delINF,WinUPD.Options
> delreg=WinUPD.delreg
> RenFiles=WinUPD.renFiles
> DelDirs=WinUPD.deldir
>
> [DestinationDirs]
> WinUPD.delFiles = 11
> WinUPD.renFiles = 11
> WinUPD.Options = 10,options\cabs
> WinUPD.delINF = 17,QFE\%SPKey%
>
> [WinUPD.delFiles]
> hlink.dll
>
> [WinUPD.Options]
> hlink.dll
>
> [WinUPD.renFiles]
> hlink.dll,888113.qfe
>
> [WinUPD.delINF]
> 888113UN.INF
>
> [WinUPD.deldir]
> %17%/qfe/%SPKey%
>
> [WinUPD.delreg]
> HKLM,%UpdateKey%\%SPKey%\%LocaleID%%UpdID%\,,,"%UpdName%"
> HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\%GUID%",,,
> HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\%UpdID%",,,
>
> [Strings]
> ;Non-localizable
> LANG= "EN"
> LocaleID= "UPD"
> Guid= "{3a753dda-02a0-4834-b37c-9d3470a556ce}"
> VERSION= "4.10.0.1998"
> UpdID= "888113"
> UpdateKey= "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\Updates"
> SPKey= "W98"
>
>
> ;Localizable strings
> UpdName="Windows KB888113 Patch"
> AdvPackWarn="You need a newer version of advpack.dll."
> SrcDiskName="KB888113 Patch"
> ........EOQ...................
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Star" <star@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:113ddevrp686s0f@corp.supernews.com...
> | Thanks for the registration entries, PCR Pro.
> | I copied them into Notepad and named the file w/.reg extension and
> merged
> | into the Registry (I did 3 separate merges and checked each merge), I
> now
> | see KB888113 in Ctl Panel add/remove tab.
> |
> | WU only offered KB891711 again... doesn't WU get the info from the
> .xml log
> | in Windows Update folder, how can I **really be sure I have the
> KB888113
> | update** ??? I know I **now have the registration entries again** ???
> How
> | can I verify I have KB888113 ???
> |
> | Thank you, Star
> |
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:%23CfRj0TKFHA.436@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | (That wasn't to Bear, it was to the OP he was responding to.) So, you
> DIDN'T
> | uninstall Q888113, but you restored the Registry (after uninstalling
> | KB891711)? Probably RBBAD.cab has the Registry that you want. It is
> the one
> | that was in effect at the time you did the /Restore. Of course, if
> you've
> | done another install/uninstall since then, that one would get mussed
> by
> | taking RBBAD.cab. Do you know how to get RBBAD.cab back? You'd have
> to...
> |
> | (a) Rename or move the oldest RBxxx.cab out of "C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP"
> | (b) Rename RBBAD.cab to the number of the one you moved out
> | (c) ScanReg /Restore, and take what was RBBAD.cab
> |
> | OTHERWISE, well, here are the Registry entries you seek. Do you know
> what to
> | do with these...
> |
> | ........Start...................
> | REGEDIT4
> |
> | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
> | Components\{3a753dda-02a0-4834-b37c-9d3470a556ce}]
> | @="Windows 98 Q888113 Update"
> | "IsInstalled"=dword:00000001
> | "Locale"="EN"
> | "Version"="4.10.0.1998"
> |
> | ........End.......................
> |
> | ........Start.....................
> | REGEDIT4
> |
> |
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\Upda
> tes\
> | W98\UPD888113]
> | @="Windows 98 Q888113 Update"
> | "c:\\windows\\SYSTEM\\hlink.dll"="5.2.3790.227"
> |
> | ........End.......................
> |
> | ........Start.....................
> | REGEDIT4
> |
> |
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\
> 8881
> | 13]
> | @=""
> | "DisplayName"="Windows 98 Q888113 Update"
> | "UninstallString"="RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
> | C:\\WINDOWS\\INF\\QFE\\W98\\888113UN.INF"
> |
> | ........End.......................
> |
> |
> | --
> | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | should things get worse after this,
> | PCR
> | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | "Star" <star@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | news:113d5hliqtunu46@corp.supernews.com...
> | | PCR Pro,
> | | I read where you answered Pa Bear about updates in add/remove
> control
> | | panel.
> | | And, yes Microsoft knows I removed it and it is offered to me again.
> I
> | just
> | | visited WU minutes ago.
> | |
> | | I took KB891711 & KB888113 at the same time, early in the day soon
> after
> | my
> | | first boot of the day. According to your post to Pa Bear you listed
> these
> | | updates....
> | |
> | | Only KB891711 would show up at MSConfig, but both would show at
> "Control
> | | Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Install/Uninstall tab"
> | |
> | | (a) Windows 98 KB891711 Update (don't have)
> | | (b) Windows 98 Q823559 Update
> | | (c) Windows 98 Q840315 Update
> | | (d) Windows 98 Q888113 Update **doesn't show, restored registry**
> | | (e) Windows 98 Q890175 Update
> | |
> | | I uninstalled KB891711 using Control Panel and checked the files
> that Gary
> | | Terhune listed for the patch, and then I exited to dos and did a
> scanreg
> | | /restore and restored my registry to my first boot of the day.
> | |
> | | OK, WU offers me KB891711 but not KB888113 and I restored the
> registry. I
> | | don't see KB888113 in add/remove list in control panel (I wouldn't
> since I
> | | restored the registry). I looked at my log in my WU folder and both
> | updates
> | | show being successful.
> | |
> | | What I'm asking is how can WU know.... if I restored the registry,
> I
> | would
> | | think both updates would be offered to me again, yet I'm offered
> only
> | | KB891711... ???
> | |
> | | Star
> | |
> | |
> | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | | news:eX1zwhRKFHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> | | > That is sad, that all Dial-ups do not suffer our fate. However,
> let us
> | | > rejoice. It seems some cable folk do suffer! So, MS must STILL fix
> the
> | | > fix, if enough users are affected, adding us all up.
> | | >
> | | > I anxiously await running into your post. If I haven't seen
> Glee's, soon
> | | > I will. You mean the one where he said a bunch of his Win98's were
> | | > affected? That's good. NOW, the MVPs will unite & get us a fix!
> | | >
> | | > That is TREBLY sad that MS STILL has it available at WU! Geeez!
> | | >
> | | > | I was going to disable, and delete from *run services*
> regisistry
> | | > | location... and go to the executable, send shortcut to the
> desktop and
> | | > | **Run** this as desired by launching myself after IE was running
> w/web
> | | > page
> | | > | loaded.
> | | >
> | | > I did that in response to Blanton's request elsewhere. It was
> worse.
> | | > NetZero wouldn't even connect. Same BSOD. I closed KB891711.exe,
> have
> | | > not reboot, clicked NetZero again-- & here I am.
> | | >
> | | > --
> | | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | | > should things get worse after this,
> | | > PCR
> | | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | | > "Star" <star@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | | > news:113c6lvagh3oc57@corp.supernews.com...
> | | > | Hey PCR Pro,
> | | > | Star here....
> | | > | I saw your **OUCH** message, and (2) posts have surfaced, users
> on
> | | > dial-up
> | | > | without problems, double OUCH!!
> | | > | I listed my running processes in that thread, however you
> haven't seen
> | | > it
> | | > | yet.
> | | > |
> | | > | Did you see Glee's post... ?
> | | > |
> | | > | I went to WU, and it comes up for me. I did uninstall it, I had
> it
> | | > disabled
> | | > | initially, and all was well.
> | | > | However, like I mentioned, personally I did not like it
> period....
> | | > and, if
> | | > | Microsoft wants to run it as a start-up process for W-98-se, I
> won't
> | | > run it
> | | > | as a continuous running process.
> | | > |
> | | > | I did disable it and totally uninstall it!!
> | | > |
> | | > | I was going to disable, and delete from *run services*
> regisistry
> | | > | location... and go to the executable, send shortcut to the
> desktop and
> | | > | **Run** this as desired by launching myself after IE was running
> w/web
> | | > page
> | | > | loaded.
> | | > |
> | | > | I **WAS CURIOUS** to do above, but now I can't... however, you
> can do
> | | > the
> | | > | above test since you only have it disabled.
> | | > |
> | | > | I do above with many applications/software, delete from run
> services
> | | > | registry and msconfig, but I have shortcuts to run them myself
> except
> | | > for
> | | > | Pc-cillin.
> | | > |
> | | > | Star
> | | > |
> | | > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | | > | news:OHEdxbHKFHA.2784@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | | > | > Hmm. That is an MS file. Anyway, it is fruitless to guess
> which file
> | | > | > KB891711.exe doesn't like. I'm sure MS is diligently working
> on a
> | | > fix by
> | | > | > now.
> | | > | >
> | | > | >
> | | > | > --
> | | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | | > | > should things get worse after this,
> | | > | > PCR
> | | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | | > | > "Elizabeth" <bethvollbach@earthlink.deletethis.net> wrote in
> message
> | | > | > news:ftn9319uqm8b11seus8ib4cfh5i9gi15l1@4ax.com...
> | | > | > | It's not tapisrv.exe. I don't have that, and I had problems
> with
> | | > | > | KB891711. Must be dialup. Beth
> | | > | > |
> | | > | > | On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:11:51 -0500, "PCR"
> <pcrrcp@netzero.net>
> | | > wrote:
> | | > | > |
> | | > | > | >Don't look at me: I have at least eight holes in my mouth!
> So, it
> | | > | > could
> | | > | > | >be Tapisrv.exe (Microsoft® Windows(TM) Telephony Server) or
> | | > | > Rnaapp.exe
> | | > | > | >(Dial-Up Networking Application) that it doesn't like.
> Those two
> | | > | > always
> | | > | > | >launch after I've connected to the NET. And KB891711.exe
> does not
> | | > | > crash
> | | > | > | >IE working out of TIFs before I've connected. I guess it
> could
> | | > also
> | | > | > be
> | | > | > | >something like Ptsnoop.exe (the legit one of PCtel, Inc.)
> that
> | | > may
> | | > | > want
> | | > | > | >to get busier after a connection is made. But that one is
> in the
> | | > | > Startup
> | | > | > | >Group & is there even working out of TIFs offline.
> | | > | > |
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