Question Windows workstation with ryzen 7 5800x, 64gb of RAM and a 3090 severely underperforming against an I7 3th gen and 16gb ram with a 1660.

[Patoduck]

Hello, I have severe issues with my custom built workstation; it's a B550m (ASRock Steel legend) with an amd7 5800x, a 3090 and 64gb of ddr4 memory running 4 sticks at 2300MHz.
I am trying to make a very simple scene with Autodesk Maya and Vray and I can't go further from adding a mesh island, an animated shark and a plane with an ocean like shader.
The moment I try to add a group of instanced (not real) pines the program crashes. I also have excruciatingly low readout speeds with winrar, file explorer, adobe lightroom 2024 and many creator software. Drivers up to date, genuine windows, student licensed Maya and Vray... and yet it pales against my teacher's I7 3rd gen and 16gb of RAM on win10 (i'm on win11 which is supposedly better?)
I run NVME SSD's for the software.

How come is my pc scoring SO LOW that a single core at 4ghz and 64gb of ram is UNABLE to even keep up against anything BELOW it's class? There must be something wrong with my hardware or drivers because otherwise it would crush anything else.

PC Specs:
PSU: 850W 80 plus gold Seasonic Focus
Box: Semitower
Fans: 5x PWM high pressure on negative pressure mode (more cooling, more dust, but I clean the PC dust once a month)
Cooler: 240mm Liquid cooler (Cooler Master ARGB "Core")
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Steel Legend, bios updated in late September 2024
RAM: 4x16gb DDR4 Trident Z RGB NEO by G Skill; ( they run on minimum frequency despite trying to overclock, overclock is only supported in dual channel)
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X bought in October 2023
Storage: System on a 500gb wd blue SSD (SATA port), software on a 500gb M2 NVM Express WD Blue SSD, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda scratch disk (SATA port), 5tb on external HDD Seagate FireCuda
GPU: Gigabyte Vision 3090
Monitor: ACER KG251Q

 

[rgd1101]

full system spec? include brand and model of the psu

 

[--SID--]

RAM is very slow. What's the brand and model of the RAM?

Is the motherboard BIOS fully up to date?

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

my custom built workstation
When posting a thread of troubleshooting nature, it's customary to include your full system's specs. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

64gb of ddr4 memory running 4 sticks at 2300MHz.
You might want to look over your ram again, a link would suffice if you can't identify it but DDR4-2300MHz, isn't the right speed to have on a Ryzen platform.

 

[LuKaWin10]

RAM seems super slow. Give out the full specs so we can see the problem, Lutfij already explained what to send, my first guess is slow RAM or issues with PSU?

 

[Patoduck]

Sheesh such a quick bump to help me out. Thank you fellas, i will go one by one.

 

[Patoduck]

Hello

Here:
PC Specs:
Box: Semitower
Fans: 5x PWM high pressure on negative pressure mode (more cooling, more dust, but I clean the PC dust once a month)
Cooler: 240mm Liquid cooler (Cooler Master ARGB "Core")
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Steel Legend, bios updated in late September 2024
RAM: 4x16gb DDR4 Trident Z RGB NEO by G Skill; ( they run on minimum frequency despite trying to overclock, overclock is only supported in dual channel)
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X bought in October 2023
Storage: System on a 500gb wd blue SSD (SATA port), software on a 500gb M2 NVM Express WD Blue SSD, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda scratch disk (SATA port), 5tb on external HDD Seagate FireCuda
GPU: Gigabyte Vision 3090

 

[LuKaWin10]

Hello

Here:
PC Specs:
Box: Semitower
Fans: 5x PWM high pressure on negative pressure mode (more cooling, more dust, but I clean the PC dust once a month)
Cooler: 240mm Liquid cooler (Cooler Master ARGB "Core")
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Steel Legend, bios updated in late September 2024
RAM: 4x16gb DDR4 Trident Z RGB NEO by G Skill; ( they run on minimum frequency despite trying to overclock, overclock is only supported in dual channel)
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X bought in October 2023
Storage: System on a 500gb wd blue SSD (SATA port), software on a 500gb M2 NVM Express WD Blue SSD, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda scratch disk (SATA port), 5tb on external HDD Seagate FireCuda
GPU: Gigabyte Vision 3090

Issue may be is that the RAM you have is not being ran in dual channel mode. Dual channel mode makes everything faster, and better too. Get a better RAM kit and run it in dual channel. Update the BIOS to the newest revision if it exists. Try even installing Windows on an NVME SSD as it will be much more faster

Edit: I see you did update it to the newest version, sorry lol.

 

[LuKaWin10]

Hello

Here:
PC Specs:
Box: Semitower
Fans: 5x PWM high pressure on negative pressure mode (more cooling, more dust, but I clean the PC dust once a month)
Cooler: 240mm Liquid cooler (Cooler Master ARGB "Core")
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Steel Legend, bios updated in late September 2024
RAM: 4x16gb DDR4 Trident Z RGB NEO by G Skill; ( they run on minimum frequency despite trying to overclock, overclock is only supported in dual channel)
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X bought in October 2023
Storage: System on a 500gb wd blue SSD (SATA port), software on a 500gb M2 NVM Express WD Blue SSD, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda scratch disk (SATA port), 5tb on external HDD Seagate FireCuda
GPU: Gigabyte Vision 3090

We also need the PSU!

 

[Patoduck]

RAM seems super slow. Give out the full specs so we can see the problem, Lutfij already explained what to send, my first guess is slow RAM or issues with PSU?

How would I tell this is a PSU issue? I had the same performance lameness when I had a 4060Ti which consumed a third of what my 3090 does.

 

[Patoduck]

We also need the PSU!

PSU is a seasonic 850w 80 plus

 

[COLGeek]

PSU is a seasonic 850w 80 plus

Details matter. What specific model? The 3080/3090 series GPUs have some well documented issues with some Seasonic PSUs. Usually you would get shutdowns/lockups with the impacted PSUs. Just making sure that isn't contributing to your issues.

With all four memory slots occupied, you may need to manually bump up the memory voltage in the BIOS to run faster than the default DDR4 speeds. This should be done via the smallest possible changes, until stable at the desired speed.

Also, assuming you are comparing your results to some on-line benchmarking source, you might want to take those results with a grain of salt. You need to ask yourself if the system is not doing something you need it to do, rather than focus on benchmarks.

Last, what are your CPU and GPU operating temperatures, at idle and under load?

 

[rgd1101]

how full are the ssd?
the scratch disk are hdd?

 

[LuKaWin10]

PSU is a seasonic 850w 80 plus

Okay thanks

 

[LuKaWin10]

How would I tell this is a PSU issue? I had the same performance lameness when I had a 4060Ti which consumed a third of what my 3090 does.

It is just a guess, and a speculation, maybe it can even be a totally different issue

 

[Patoduck]

Details matter. What specific model?

Seasonic Focus GX 850w 80 plus modular

With all four memory slots occupied, you may need to manually bump up the memory voltage in the BIOS to run faster than the default DDR4 speeds. This should be done via the smallest possible changes, until stable at the desired speed.

Also, assuming you are comparing your results to some on-line benchmarking source, you might want to take those results with a grain of salt. You need to ask yourself if the system is not doing something you need it to do, rather than focus on benchmarks.

I do not compare it to online benchmarking sources, i just tell that my teacher has a puny 3rd gen i7 and 16gb of RAM and he can do production compliant projects while I can't go further from a shark, a rock and a flat sea.

Last, what are your CPU and GPU operating temperatures, at idle and under load?

Idle around 40 celsius, max i've ever registered was 89 celsius
Now it's on 60 with all fans manually set to be working at maximum

 

[Patoduck]

It is just a guess, and a speculation, maybe it can even be a totally different issue

i recall Maya completely freezing to the point the PC had to restart, giving a 41 bsod, opening the event viewer i saw i had multiple error 41s that didn't prompt a blue screen, around 10 in the span of ten months.

 

[COLGeek]

Seasonic Focus GX 850w 80 plus modular



I do not compare it to online benchmarking sources, i just tell that my teacher has a puny 3rd gen i7 and 16gb of RAM and he can do production compliant projects while I can't go further from a shark, a rock and a flat sea.

Idle around 40 celsius, max i've ever registered was 89 celsius
Now it's on 60 with all fans manually set to be working at maximum

PSU should be okay.

You really can't compare your PC to your teachers like that. What else are you running that your teacher isn't, for example. Is your OS and application baseline the same? Likely not, so what is different?

Same for your storage configuration.

Temperatures seem okay as well, by the way.

 

[COLGeek]

i recall Maya completely freezing to the point the PC had to restart, giving a 41 bsod, opening the event viewer i saw i had multiple error 41s that didn't prompt a blue screen, around 10 in the span of ten months.

What version of Maya? Is it up to date?

 

[Patoduck]

PSU should be okay.

You really can't compare your PC to your teachers like that. What else are you running that your teacher isn't, for example. Is your OS and application baseline the same? Likely not, so what is different?

Same for your storage configuration.

Temperatures seem okay as well, by the way.

my OS is windows 11 Pro
my teacher's is windows 10 pro.
We both use the same Autodesk Maya version (2023) with it's dedicated Vray Next plug-in.
Hint: VRay next is known for being a dogwater renderer, it looks great but it is slower than Arnold and has a lot of inconsistencies. The results are photorealistic like nothing else, but it causes so many crashes and needs to take a lot of steps, worst of all is that chaos forums don't show any real information about it and there's also not much external source about it either.

 

[COLGeek]

Have you scanned your system for malware recently? If so, with what application?

What other applications are you typically running when using Maya?

Is Maya fully licensed and from a legit source? Is all of your software legit, for that matter?

How many SSDs/HDDs are you using?

 

[Patoduck]

Have you scanned your system for malware recently? If so, with what application?

No. Which one do you recommend that doesn't require a third party antivirus? I tried ESET but it thinks my camera HEIF files are a virus. But that's because my PC didn't support HEIF back then before updating to win11 last year.

What other applications are you typically running when using Maya?

Only Firefox with a single YouTube tab.

Is Maya fully licensed and from a legit source? Is all of your software legit, for that matter?

Maya IS legit, i'm in fact using a flexnet license utility. The Vray plugin is chirped ⚰️.
It doesn't matter much either because i've always had the performance issues before using stuff.

 

[COLGeek]

No. Which one do you recommend that doesn't require a third party antivirus? I tried ESET but it thinks my camera HEIF files are a virus. But that's because my PC didn't support HEIF back then before updating to win11 last year.

Only Firefox with a single YouTube tab.

Maya IS legit, i'm in fact using a flexnet license utility. The Vray plugin is chirped ⚰️.

What does chirped mean?

Try Malwarebytes or Hitman Pro. The free/demo versions will suffice. Remove all identified threats.

 

[Patoduck]

What does chirped mean?

Redacted

Try Malwarebytes or Hitman Pro. The free/demo versions will suffice. Remove all identified threats.

Aight. Thanks.