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Mxsmanic wrote:

> Conor writes:
>
>
>>Very good. By full speed do you mean it was running at 100% CPU usage?
>
>
> Slightly beyond 100%,

A mathematical impossibility.

> because of hyperthreading.

Hyperthreading gets it closer to 100% than it could get without it.


>>So what actual CPU speed was that 100% usage, the CPU rated speed or
>>what it had throttled down to?
>
>
> Full speed, since there was no indication of diminished performance.
> The processor temperature was only 55-58° C, well below the
> temperature at which throttling would occur. I've never seen it above
> 60° C, and it only gets that high for very brief periods (until the
> fan speeds up).
>
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 21:16:33 +0200, Mxsmanic
<mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote:

>kony writes:
>
>> You would have to actively take steps to disable it.
>
>I didn't have to take any steps to disable it that I can remember.
>The power-down and spin-down options were set to "never." The monitor
>was set to something (I don't recall what), but I set it differently.
>Hibernation was disabled, also. That's what I remember. It has been
>a while since I installed XP.
>
>> Actually, it IS a loop.
>
>It's not a 100% processor-busy loop. The processor is 99.999% idle.

True, but your proposed "100% busy" loop isn't actually a
100% "busy" loop either, only that the CPU is doing
something 100% of the time, but that something can easily be
using only a small part of the CPU.

In other words, you will see the heat increase from not
having the HALT idle commands but no assurance of any
particular level of load-generated heat.


>
>> It is an idle priority process
>> which issues the command. If you killed that, or raised
>> it's priority and ran something else with lower priority,
>> you then have effectively disabled the HLT cooling.
>
>Whenever the system has no process awaiting dispatch, it halts.

No, the halt process is merely lowest priority. It IS a
process, not lack of any process.

>On a
>typical system the processor is halted most of the time, even when
>someone is actively using it.

True for most common modern systems and uses.
 
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kony writes:

> No, the halt process is merely lowest priority. It IS a
> process, not lack of any process.

That depends on the OS. In many (most?) operating systems, the
machine halt is in the dispatcher, since it often requires the highest
level of privilege to execute.

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David Maynard writes:

> A mathematical impossibility.

Not when you can run two threads simultaneously, which is possible
with hyperthreading. This looks like two processors running to the
OS, and hyperthreading processors are usually counted as two
processors.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
> David Maynard writes:
>
>
>>A mathematical impossibility.
>
>
> Not when you can run two threads simultaneously, which is possible
> with hyperthreading.

There's one processor, period. And multiple threads simply allow it to be
used more efficiently. I.E. closer to 100%. But it can go 'faster' than it
goes.

> This looks like two processors running to the
> OS, and hyperthreading processors are usually counted as two
> processors.

What Windows thinks it 'looks like' is irrelevant to the real world fact
that it's one processor.

>
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David Maynard writes:

> There's one processor, period. And multiple threads simply allow it to be
> used more efficiently. I.E. closer to 100%. But it can go 'faster' than it
> goes.

You have two threads executing simultaneously. That's more than 100%
of a processor, as far as the operating system is concerned.

> What Windows thinks it 'looks like' is irrelevant to the real world fact
> that it's one processor.

So how do you calculate processor busy time in the "real world,"
exactly?

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"David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
news:11hi657eh28gc2@corp.supernews.com...
> none wrote:
>
>> Here's a real Wooden Case for a PC...
>>
>> http://forum.mastera-mebeli.ru/viewtopic.php?t=76
>>
>> Just wish I could read the text...
>
> Wow. Now that is one beautiful PC.
>

No kidding. That guy had to have a TON of time on his hands to do that.
Great quality work. Wish I could read it.....
 
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Ed Medlin writes:

> No kidding. That guy had to have a TON of time on his hands to do that.
> Great quality work. Wish I could read it.....

I want to know how he got the wood around the flat-panel display,
including the buttons and indicator lights, without damaging anything.

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In article <anfjh1hsm14ku3lncqko8jmpk78psda06m@4ax.com>, Mxsmanic
says...
> Ed Medlin writes:
>
> > No kidding. That guy had to have a TON of time on his hands to do that.
> > Great quality work. Wish I could read it.....
>
> I want to know how he got the wood around the flat-panel display,
> including the buttons and indicator lights, without damaging anything.
>
You're really quite dim aren't you?


--
Conor

"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.
 
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> Ed Medlin writes:
>
>
>>No kidding. That guy had to have a TON of time on his hands to do that.
>>Great quality work. Wish I could read it.....
>
>
> I want to know how he got the wood around the flat-panel display,
> including the buttons and indicator lights, without damaging anything.
>
> --
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I would imagine he did it the same way the original manufacturer did, by
putting the holes in the right place 😉
 
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Ed Medlin wrote:

> "David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
> news:11hi657eh28gc2@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>none wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Here's a real Wooden Case for a PC...
>>>
>>>http://forum.mastera-mebeli.ru/viewtopic.php?t=76
>>>
>>>Just wish I could read the text...
>>
>>Wow. Now that is one beautiful PC.
>>
>
>
> No kidding. That guy had to have a TON of time on his hands to do that.

Either that or he knew what he was doing and had the proper tools to do it
with 😉

> Great quality work. Wish I could read it.....
 
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He is the russian Norm! I wonder if he has a collection of power tools that
would rival his American counterpart?
 
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Carl wrote:
> He is the russian Norm! I wonder if he has a collection of power tools that
> would rival his American counterpart?
>
>

Better than Norm. Norm is a darn good carpenter and a pretty fair finish
carpenter. There are better furniture makers though. The creativity and
craftsmanship of this wooden PC case belong in "Fine Woodworking"
magazine. Hell, they should do a full article on this case, it's that good.

Clyde
 
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"David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
news:11hkkcrmu48tm5b@corp.supernews.com...
> Ed Medlin wrote:
>
>> "David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
>> news:11hi657eh28gc2@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>none wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Here's a real Wooden Case for a PC...
>>>>
>>>>http://forum.mastera-mebeli.ru/viewtopic.php?t=76
>>>>
>>>>Just wish I could read the text...
>>>
>>>Wow. Now that is one beautiful PC.
>>>
>>
>>
>> No kidding. That guy had to have a TON of time on his hands to do that.
>
> Either that or he knew what he was doing and had the proper tools to do it
> with 😉

Lets see........hobby knife and a Dremel.......🙂

>
>> Great quality work. Wish I could read it.....
>
>
 
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Ed Medlin wrote:
> "David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
> news:11hkkcrmu48tm5b@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Ed Medlin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"David Maynard" <nospam@private.net> wrote in message
>>>news:11hi657eh28gc2@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>none wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's a real Wooden Case for a PC...
>>>>>
>>>>>http://forum.mastera-mebeli.ru/viewtopic.php?t=76
>>>>>
>>>>>Just wish I could read the text...
>>>>
>>>>Wow. Now that is one beautiful PC.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>No kidding. That guy had to have a TON of time on his hands to do that.
>>
>>Either that or he knew what he was doing and had the proper tools to do it
>>with 😉
>
>
> Lets see........hobby knife and a Dremel.......🙂

Hehe. Maybe.

What I had in mind was... Well, have you ever watched one of those 'do it
yourself' wood working shows? Going to show you how to make a 'simple' this
or that but if you look around the shop he's got like half a million in
power tools.

First we cut a rough shape then go to our handy dandy 12 foot flat bed planer.

Hey pal, I ain't *got* no 10 grand flat bed planer. So much for that
'simple project.

>
>
>>>Great quality work. Wish I could read it.....
>>
>>
>
>
 
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:02:41 +1000, "@(none)" <""sraellis\"@(none)"> wrote:

>Here's a real Wooden Case for a PC...
>
>http://forum.mastera-mebeli.ru/viewtopic.php?t=76

Man, that's beautiful!

>Just wish I could read the text...

It's Greek to me too.
--
Bob
 
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Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:02:41 +1000, "@(none)" <""sraellis\"@(none)"> wrote:
>
>
>>Here's a real Wooden Case for a PC...
>>
>>http://forum.mastera-mebeli.ru/viewtopic.php?t=76
>
>
> Man, that's beautiful!
>
>
>>Just wish I could read the text...
>
>
> It's Greek to me too.

Hey, guys this is the 21st century. We have Web sites that will
translate. Here is what Babel Fish says that it means:

"Title of the communication: Wooden computers!!! Photos Of e.V.Kolkova
(Johnson). Final form. To answer with the quotation I lay out everything
that the great photographer of nasnimal for two night photos-session
before the delivery of order. Enormous public THANKS to Yevgeny To
valentinovichu!!!"

On the last mouse picture it says:

"Large part of vylozhil.Uf! But here is another mouse out of the
competition. "mouse side-line fanerovannaya." Dizain a- la June beetle
Very Happy the author: Gorin Tatiana."

The biggest text below didn't make sense. The message below said:

"It is magnificent! Smile ... several years ago saw similar - wooden
housings (beech, oak, mahogany) for the system blocks and the monitors,
the keyboard and the mouse. To the mice - leather rugs. But for the
separate pay Smile of keyboards they were made in one part of tree
together with the buttons. It seems, all in Germany made this. At least,
they sold them for the stamps. Alas, there is neither photographs nor
Price- it is sheet - prove I can in no way. Togovala by them firm "mas
of electronics"."

It doesn't matter what language is used. The Internet is full of the
same level of intelligent communication. ;-)

Clyde
 
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:22:47 -0500, Clyde
<clyde@world.comedy> wrote:


<snip>

>It doesn't matter what language is used. The Internet is full of the
>same level of intelligent communication. ;-)

;-)

I'd rather a leather rug on my mouse than wood.
 
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