Workstation as a gaming Pc

[manofchalk]

The amount of RAM expected on the average PC is 4GB, with most enthusiasts running 8GB. 16GB is far more than you need unless your running a professional application. I think by the time 16GB is the expected norm for computers, we will be in the tail end of DDR4's life.

I would change the PSU after 6 years outright, if only because of new technology and the fact that the capacitors in PSU's degrade through usage.
And you may have picked up from my post that ensuring future upgradability is more than just the PSU.
My advice, spend big on the case. Because you have no idea how you will want to fill it in the future (hint, custom water-cooling. You may not want something that "extreme" now, but that's what I thought when I built my rig).

 

[Gtkill]

So can you suggest a good XL-ATX \E-ATX Case ? i know CM HAF-X is one the best but isn't something a little bit cheaper ?

 

[bambiboom]

Gtkill,

I use a Dell Precision T5400 with 2X the Xeon X5460 CPU's and I would counter criticism that these CPU's are not good performers- for their intended use. In the Passmark test, this T5400 scored 8396 on the CPU test, not far away overall from a typical i7-3770K system and some portions of the calculation test speeds were higher than the 3770K. As rendering is CPU-based and a case of being able to use all the cores, a dual CPU is excellent for rendering. With gaming computers, CPU clock speed is important and 3.16GHz is not slow, especially with the Xeon's focus on computational power. As you mentioned in one of your replies, the graphics card speed may also improve the scores of the old bangers significantly- you're looking for high 3D performance.

However, with the 1333 FSB Xeon, the HP is using DDR2-667 RAM which is quite slow by modern standards and also about double the cost to buy now than much faster DDR3 1600. As well, the disk system is not a screamer, but that can be cured with an SSD. The 3rd fastest computer on the Passmark Performance test using the X5460 is an HP xw8600 with 2- CPUS, 16GB RAM, GTX 650, and an Intel 330 SSD achieves a score of 2430. The highest scoring X5460 PC on Passmark at 2546 again uses 2-processors, 12GB RAM, an OCZ Vertex SSD, and a GTX 460. The highest 3D mark for an X5460 uses a GTX 560 for a 3D score of 3560. For reference, the fastest PC's in this test score in the upper 7000's and low 8,000's and I would guess those computers cost about $.75 -$1 per point,.. Their 3D scores are in the 9000-11000 range, with the GTX Titan one of the new kings- "titans" of 3D benchmarks.

Sorry for all that, but it's worth considering for comparison to your proposed configuration :

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Case: ZALMAN Z11 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:CORSAIR HX1050 ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1537.59

> is potentially very good. In a quick look at Passmark baselines, a very similar configuration- [same CPU, MB, amount of RAM, Video Card, Samsung SSD] produces a score of 4964 with a 3D rating of 6629, so that's a much better long-term solution than the HP. Plus you could consider a mild overclocking (Xeons can't be) to about 4GHz- keep on eye on the cooling solution. I'm not sure you need a 1000W PS- with an 850W you could still probably run 3 graphics cards. also, check the memory configuration of the motherboard- you may need to use 2X 4GB rather than 1 X 8GB. On that subject, if it's possible, check with ASRock for known compatible brands/models of RAM with the Z77 motherboard. One suggestion- if it doesn't break the budget too much, consider a good 27" monitor. I use an HP 2711x (1920 X 1080) and, while I don't use games, it's another world from my previous 22"- the best computer upgrade I've ever made. Already spoiled, my next monitor will be a 27" @ 2560 X 1440,...

Let us know how it works!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

[Dell Precision T5400, 2X Xeon x5460 @3.16GHz, 16GB DR2-667 ECC RAM, GTX 285 or Quadro FX 4800, WD RE4 500GB /Seagate 500GB, 875W PS, Win 7 Ult 64]

 

[Gtkill]

Thanks Guys for your help I really appreaciate it !! 😀
I think i'm gonna stick with I5 based build !
And i think i'm gonna wait until Haswell release for prices drop.

 

[realchaos]

Intel doesn't really drop the prices. I heard that the prices will only drop like $10-20 max.

 

[Gtkill]

And do you think that the haswell will have a good performance/price when released ?

 

[Outlander_04]

And do you think that the haswell will have a good performance/price when released ?

has well has a very minimal performance increase over current intel processors


there's a preview of the 4770 on the toms home page

 

[Gtkill]

So 13% percent performance at a 5-10% higher price is better i think ?

EDIT:that mostly not worth it since 1150 gonna more expensive than 1155 (more sata 6G/s and more usb 3.0)