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Okay I did my City of Heroes characters on a blog and so I decided I might
as well do the WoW ones also (on a different blog). So here's a link if
you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I only describe my
two highest level toons so far. More will come.

http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/

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Knight37 wrote:
>
> Okay I did my City of Heroes characters on a blog and so I decided I might
> as well do the WoW ones also (on a different blog). So here's a link if
> you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I only describe my
> two highest level toons so far. More will come.
>
> http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/
>

Tell me you didn't CHOOSE that mustache for Bip. :)

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Thusly Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> Spake Unto All:

>you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I only describe my
>two highest level toons so far. More will come.
>
>http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/

And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are. It
looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.

Like Rayman 3, actually.



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RogerM <rodger.mckay@ns.sympatico.ca> once tried to test me with:

> Knight37 wrote:
>>
>> Okay I did my City of Heroes characters on a blog and so I decided I
>> might as well do the WoW ones also (on a different blog). So here's a
>> link if you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I
>> only describe my two highest level toons so far. More will come.
>>
>> http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> Tell me you didn't CHOOSE that mustache for Bip. :)

Hell yeah!! He's EVIL BABY!! He's the EVIL MIDNIGHT WARLOCK WHAT SUMMONS
AT MIDNIGHT!!!



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Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> once tried to test me
with:

> Thusly Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> Spake Unto All:
>
>>you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I only
>>describe my two highest level toons so far. More will come.
>>
>>http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/
>
> And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are. It
> looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
>
> Like Rayman 3, actually.

Ok well they are definitely "cartoonish" that is the style of the artwork.

Ugly though? Not to me, not at ALL. I have really enjoyed the graphics of
this game quite a bit, there's times when I'm awed by it. However, the
screen shots I displayed do not do it justice. There are a lot better
screenshots online, of course, but you just do not get a feel for how good
the artwork is and how fluid the animations are until you see it in action
yourself.

It's no Rayman.

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> It
> looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
>
> Like Rayman 3, actually.

Is that bad ?

-Moa Dragon
 
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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>
> Thusly Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> Spake Unto All:
>
> >you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I only describe my
> >two highest level toons so far. More will come.
> >
> >http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/
>
> And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are. It
> looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
>
> Like Rayman 3, actually.
>

Okay. You must hate cartoons. I think the graphics look quite good. In
any case, you don't need a top of the line system to run the game,
unlike EQ2 (from what I hear).

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Thusly Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> Spake Unto All:

>>>http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/
>>
>> And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are. It
>> looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
>>
>> Like Rayman 3, actually.
>
>Ok well they are definitely "cartoonish" that is the style of the artwork.

I think the phrase you're looking for is "cutesy console platformer",
not "cartoonish".

>Ugly though? Not to me, not at ALL. I have really enjoyed the graphics of
>this game quite a bit, there's times when I'm awed by it. However, the
>screen shots I displayed do not do it justice. There are a lot better
>screenshots online, of course, but you just do not get a feel for how good
>the artwork is and how fluid the animations are until you see it in action
>yourself.

I HAVE looked at those screenshots, even viewed video, and your
screenshots ARE representative. The game looks like that, like a
two-years-old console platformer.

Heck, even Rayman himself could just be dropped right into the WoW
world.

>It's no Rayman.

Perhaps it's Ratchet & Clank then?
http://www.cgno.com/media/173/4.jpg
http://www.cgno.com/media/473/1.jpg


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Thusly "Mils Michael" <mickmils@hotmail.com> Spake Unto All:

>> It
>> looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
>>
>> Like Rayman 3, actually.
>
>Is that bad ?

For me, yes, definitely. I hate cutesy console platformers.
For console kiddies, no. It's probably a selling point for them.

And I guess the console kiddie demographic is the target audience of
WoW. So what am I bitching about, huh?


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Thusly RogerM <rodger.mckay@ns.sympatico.ca> Spake Unto All:

>> And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are. It
>> looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
>>
>> Like Rayman 3, actually.
>
>Okay. You must hate cartoons. I think the graphics look quite good.

I don't hate cartoons, and WoW looks nothing like cartoons. It looks
like a cutesy console platformer, and I do hate cutesy console
platformers.


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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>
> Thusly RogerM <rodger.mckay@ns.sympatico.ca> Spake Unto All:
>
> >> And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are. It
> >> looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
> >>
> >> Like Rayman 3, actually.
> >
> >Okay. You must hate cartoons. I think the graphics look quite good.
>
> I don't hate cartoons, and WoW looks nothing like cartoons. It looks
> like a cutesy console platformer, and I do hate cutesy console
> platformers.
>

If you think THAT'S cute, you don't know cute.

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> For console kiddies, no. It's probably a selling point for them.

I don't consider myself a kiddy and I loved Rayman 3.
Especially the graphics....

Actually, most people who gave it a try liked it you know...

-Moa Dragon
 
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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> For me, yes, definitely. I hate cutesy console platformers.
> For console kiddies, no. It's probably a selling point for them.
>
> And I guess the console kiddie demographic is the target audience of
> WoW. So what am I bitching about, huh?

Did you play Warcraft 3? I thought WoW did a fine job of translating the
art style of that game into an over-the-shoulder heroic perspective,
rather than a god's-eye-view perspective.

It's definitely an exaggerated cartoonish art style (although I wouldn't
have said "cutesy"), which will not be to everyone's taste, but so was
Warcraft 3.

Cheers!
David...
 
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Thusly David Carson <david@eldergothSPAMTRAP.com> Spake Unto All:

>> For me, yes, definitely. I hate cutesy console platformers.
>> For console kiddies, no. It's probably a selling point for them.
>>
>> And I guess the console kiddie demographic is the target audience of
>> WoW. So what am I bitching about, huh?
>
>Did you play Warcraft 3? I thought WoW did a fine job of translating the
>art style of that game into an over-the-shoulder heroic perspective,
>rather than a god's-eye-view perspective.

I guess one could make that point, in that WC3 had bright colors, low
level of detail, and exaggerated models. However, WoW's been cutefied,
and in WC3 the exaggerated models made sense, as you otherwise
couldn't see what was going on, the models being basically scurrying
ants on the screen.

>It's definitely an exaggerated cartoonish art style (although I wouldn't
>have said "cutesy"), which will not be to everyone's taste, but so was
>Warcraft 3.

Not cutesy?
http://wow.rpgstars.com/screenshots/large/ss001.jpg
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/images/mag/Features/Pictures/0001667,02.jpeg

And look here, mr. & ms. Ratchet:
http://wow.rpgstars.com/screenshots/large/ss037.jpg

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly David Carson <david@eldergothSPAMTRAP.com> Spake Unto All:
>>Did you play Warcraft 3? I thought WoW did a fine job of translating the
>>art style of that game into an over-the-shoulder heroic perspective,
>>rather than a god's-eye-view perspective.
>
> I guess one could make that point, in that WC3 had bright colors, low
> level of detail, and exaggerated models. However, WoW's been cutefied,
> and in WC3 the exaggerated models made sense, as you otherwise
> couldn't see what was going on, the models being basically scurrying
> ants on the screen.

True, the exaggerated models are not necessary in WoW the way they were
in Warcraft 3. But I'm certain they're there to maintain the flavour of WC3.

>>It's definitely an exaggerated cartoonish art style (although I wouldn't
>>have said "cutesy"), which will not be to everyone's taste, but so was
>>Warcraft 3.
>
> Not cutesy?
> http://wow.rpgstars.com/screenshots/large/ss001.jpg
> http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/images/mag/Features/Pictures/0001667,02.jpeg
>
> And look here, mr. & ms. Ratchet:
> http://wow.rpgstars.com/screenshots/large/ss037.jpg

Hmm, nope. Cutesy is not the word I'd use to describe any of those
images. 🙂

Compare that to, say, Ratchet & Clank:

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000070G2E.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Cute little anthropomorphised animal, big manga eyes, big smile.

Or Jak & Daxter:

http://www.xboxcovers.net/covers_ps2/Jak%20and%20Daxter-Precursor%20Legacy%20%5Bntsc%5D.jpg

Huge manga eyes, another cute anthropomorphised animal with an even
bigger grin.

THAT'S the sort of thing I have in mind when I hear the word "cutesy",
and I don't think WoW is really in that league. 🙂 I think the WoW art
style is a much more stern and "tough" style of cartoonishness.

Cheers!
David...
 
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David Carson wrote:
>
> Huge manga eyes, another cute anthropomorphised animal with an even
> bigger grin.
>
> THAT'S the sort of thing I have in mind when I hear the word "cutesy",
> and I don't think WoW is really in that league. 🙂 I think the WoW art
> style is a much more stern and "tough" style of cartoonishness.
>

Absolutely.

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> Spake Unto All:
>
>>>> http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are.
>>> It looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
>>>
>>> Like Rayman 3, actually.
>>
>> Ok well they are definitely "cartoonish" that is the style of the
>> artwork.
>
> I think the phrase you're looking for is "cutesy console platformer",
> not "cartoonish".

No, that's the phrase you're looking for. He's using the one he's using.
Ain't diversity swell?

> Perhaps it's Ratchet & Clank then?
> http://www.cgno.com/media/173/4.jpg
> http://www.cgno.com/media/473/1.jpg

Hey, that looks pretty sweet! I sure wish it rained in WoW.
 
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"Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95FCB3DFF7364knight37m@130.133.1.4...
> Okay I did my City of Heroes characters on a blog and so I decided I might
> as well do the WoW ones also (on a different blog). So here's a link if
> you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I only describe my
> two highest level toons so far. More will come.

Looking at this blog, which is cool, reminds me of how shallow and borng WoW
is

I went to EQ 2 and cancelled this game after 3 months

meh
 
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Lopez wrote:
> "Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns95FCB3DFF7364knight37m@130.133.1.4...
>> Okay I did my City of Heroes characters on a blog and so I decided I
>> might as well do the WoW ones also (on a different blog). So here's
>> a link if you're interested. There's not many screenshots yet and I
>> only describe my two highest level toons so far. More will come.
>
> Looking at this blog, which is cool, reminds me of how shallow and
> borng WoW is
>
> I went to EQ 2 and cancelled this game after 3 months

I see your point! The two games are as different as sweet cream butter and
40 weight motor oil.

Oh wait, no they're not.
 
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Coby wrote:
>
> Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> > Thusly Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> Spake Unto All:
> >
> >>>> http://azerothdays.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>> And once again I'm struck by how goddamn UGLY the WoW graphics are.
> >>> It looks like a cutesy console platformer from yesteryears.
> >>>
> >>> Like Rayman 3, actually.
> >>
> >> Ok well they are definitely "cartoonish" that is the style of the
> >> artwork.
> >
> > I think the phrase you're looking for is "cutesy console platformer",
> > not "cartoonish".
>
> No, that's the phrase you're looking for. He's using the one he's using.
> Ain't diversity swell?
>
> > Perhaps it's Ratchet & Clank then?
> > http://www.cgno.com/media/173/4.jpg
> > http://www.cgno.com/media/473/1.jpg
>
> Hey, that looks pretty sweet! I sure wish it rained in WoW.

It rains and snows in NWN.

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"Lopez" <lopez_1_99@yahoo.com> once tried to test me with:

> Looking at this blog, which is cool, reminds me of how shallow and
> borng WoW is
>
> I went to EQ 2 and cancelled this game after 3 months

Have fun on the grind from hell.

BTW, I have 4 friends now who have quit EQ2 to play WoW and love it.
And I don't know that many people. These are real-life friends not online
friends.

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