World Record: Haswell CPU Overclocked to 7193.8 MHz

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Nobody is saying the article advertised a world-record that accomplished anything useful.

What most people including myself are bashing here is is the very concept of overclocking contest where the "world record" does not have to be capable of accomplishing anything useful. The whole point of overclocking is to make programs run faster but these overclocking records cannot run anything useful.

This is a bit like saying your race car's engine runs at world-record 100k RPM... but would self-destruct as soon as you shift it out of parked/neutral because the crankshaft is barely strong enough to handle the engine's own compression and drag forces. Come again when you can show me that 100k RPM in whatever gear you need to put it in to hit at least highway cruising speeds.
 
If you disable hyperthreading you have an i5.
If you disable half the cores and hyperthreading you have a highly advanced Pentium D.

No not a Pentium D, a Pentium G3258 20th Anniversary Edition.

No, there's still the way bigger cache and the additional instruction sets, for example.
 
I agree with all the comments about this being a "bogus" record. This is an absolutely useless exercise. I understand there initially is a wow factor involved, but if you cannot run anything stable before the thing implodes how is this worth anyone's time? The real world record should be as many people have said - OC that sucker and run some Prime, etc. Then I will be impressed. This - not so much (really not impressed at all).

If we went with your train of thought, 99% of World Records would be "bogus" or "pointless".
 

The problem with overclocking records as they stand is that overclocking normally aims at making an existing product MORE useful but those world-overclocking-record systems are completely useless since they cannot do anything much beyond managing to boot into Windows some of the time.
 
Doesn't mean anything really if you have to gimp the chip to get there. I'm with Starbound, being able to boot into windows and open CPU-Z doesn't mean shit to me, let's see you overclock a chip to 7193.8 without partially disabling it and then run some games/benchies and then I'll be impressed.

That's like being given the land speed record and asking for it to be made into a retail car for your own amusement. There are already places to go and find that, this is for the hot rods, drag cars and other impractical yet impressive machines out there.

Go on, tell me how bad a land speed racer with a jet engine bolted to it is at turning corners whilst you tell me how impractical this is for gaming.
 

At least those souped-up vehicles can actually move from A to B.

Those world-OC records cannot do anything beyond booting Windows, This is like a race car cannot shift out of neutral gear: the engine runs but you cannot leave the starting line.

OC records would be much more meaningful if they had to break speed records at something like compressing a standard 1GB file in 7z max-compression format. This would weed out all the just-barely-stable OCs (those that barely manage to boot into Windows) and give contestants a reason to avoid disabling more features than absolutely necessary. This would also prevent overclockers from sacrificing memory and IO performance for higher CPU clocks since it would ruin their 7z score.
 
So... This isn't actually a world record, it's just a record for a Haswell? Because those are some seriously different things, and I'm certain that a bunch of AMD chips have been taken past 8GHz, and that was a couple of years ago.

It doesn't stop this being cool and all, just that if you're going to call something a world record, it really needs to be the world record for all comparable things. It's like saying that a station wagon set a world speed record, then finding out that it was only for station wagons.

LOL!! They even covered this here: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-fx-8150-overclock-9ghz-bulldozer,15853.html
 
Yes, it is abstracted from the reality of how we use our processors, but then Usain Bolt's sprinting doesn't reflect how most of us use our legs, either.


Not a very good analogy. More fitting would be; Make everyone else run with an extra 20 pounds, on his back, to compensate for the disabled hyperthreading and cores. Not very impressive, is it?
 
"Of course, there is no question that this is a completely useless exercise for everyday purposes, but it remains fun to see what certain hardware combinations are capable of."

Looks like you guys quit reading before the end of the article...
IBM's chip was the first to hit the 1 ghz mark. back then they didn't have sufficient cpu coolers and most burnt out fairly fast. i'm sure you could overclock any i7 to 10ghz right now, and they would all burn out fast also.

NOW THE OVER CLOCKERS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WOULD BE THE GUYS ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION TAKING THIS EXPERIMENT OUTSIDE OF THE SPACE STATION INTO ABSOLUTE 0º OF SPACE AND SEEING WHAT THEY COULD CLOCK UP TO!!!!!
 


Getting from A to B requires turning corners in general circumstances, just like having a fast CPU requires it running applications quickly in general circumstances. This is not general circumstances: it is a records book. The fastest plane in the world does not have to be able to carry passengers, the highest clockspeed CPU in the world does not have to be able to play games, the fastest car in the world does not have to turn corners. They ARE pointless, if you ignore the point that this is a game just like thee Olympics, and the guy running in circles practicing sprinting so that he can be the fastest will never have to use that ability to escape bears or any other practical task that those legs and speed were designed to achieve.
 

The fastest plane still needs to achieve the actual mechanical and aerodynamic work, same goes for land speed records. CPU overclock records on the other hand are barely managing to remain stable sitting idlem which would be like running a drag racer that self-destructs or stalls the moment you open the throttle.
 
When I was able to hit 5.0 on my cpu, I did it with 1 and 2 core at 5.0 and 3 and 4th core at 4.8, and then used a 1.21 multiplier or something like that. I was just messing
around with the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, Does anyone know if I should not do
two in a row or skip one or the proper way to do this ???? Im a noob to OC'ing
and just kept messing with the numbers until I got CPU-Z to validate for me.
I normally just run the cpu at 4.7 Thanks for any advice on this...
 


4.7 is plenty. Really you should have an eye on your clocks and try and put as little voltage into your CPU as possible. Don't just mess around with faders as if it's a playing program, put way too much voltage into your CPU and you will blow it out on the spot, but a little over what it can handle (and this differs on a per tray basis i.e my number won't be the same as yours) and your CPU can have it's live stunted from years to days.
 
"there is no question that this is a completely useless exercise for everyday purposes, but it remains fun to see what certain hardware combinations are capable of"

Fun? I think it's just pointless, given the fact that we already know that every CPU can be clocked very high with nitrogen and by crippling them.
 
Pardon me, 7gb.. . . That's really going some place in a hurry. As a kid, I imagined more refined worlds in the future with feats like digitizing human life into computers like 'Tron' or conjuring up Kelly LeBrock in 'Weird Science'. Robot dolls and mechanized women with human like femininity, now that's perverse. To just make body parts like a foot, only satisfies the footless. Speed. My intuition doesn't just revert me to believe after years of progress, of scientific discoveries and systematic changes, it's only about speed. No, to be living without stipulated boundaries, rules laws or the mayhem of etiquettes. That's what we're striving for. The real mongo pongo is to initiate a bio chemical computation of a real whiskey drinking woman with drive to assault your hormones and unleash the power of Mojo Jimmy who conducts the wave form patterns of life. To create a seamless, oxygen-free, static free, 100% pure serine intervening life form making life as easy and elementary as possible. You know, to promote the joy of simply being stupid & happy forever. Suicide overclocking? No, no such thing. just because we're guys who love to break things, we're going there, because someday, she be there.
 



Well that is your opinion and is why you probably don't do it yourself.

May I also add that most of the things you probably do for fun are quite pointless if looked at the same way... Gaming for example serves no true purpose other than entertainment, and yet we expect people to respect our hobby, and are offended when they crap all over them for no other reason than their handicapped perceptions. Right now you sound like one of those people.
 
Click bait! I'll admit, the peanut gallery was a much more entertaining read. As for the debate: This is just record grabbing. Who cares if it's useful? I mean no one questioned the guy who stuck 47 spoons to his face for a record right? Let's just celebrate the little things which push the boundaries of what is possible!
 
If the speed limit is 60 miles per hour and you can get 50 miles per gallon at that speed why build a car that can go 200 miles per hour in a straight line at 2 gallons per mile? Because we want to and we can. It's always a who has the title for the fastest competition. BMW releases a car that can go 180 miles per hour, Mercedes-Benz releases a car that goes 190; Intel can hit 7GHz, AMD can hit 8GHz. Are either of those scenarios practical and what you would see in day to day use? People have been doing things just because they can and to say they did for a while.
 
New CPU Frequency World record on AMD FX-8370 ‘Vishera’
Top CPU Frequency to day: 8722.78 MHz
The new top CPU frequency validation record is now in the hands of The Stilt, a Finish overclockers who’s reputation isn’t to be made anymore. The new record is a 8722.78 MHz – yes 8.72279Ghz !

So much for Intel's record.
 
New CPU Frequency World record on AMD FX-8370 ‘Vishera’
Top CPU Frequency to day: 8722.78 MHz
The new top CPU frequency validation record is now in the hands of The Stilt, a Finish overclockers who’s reputation isn’t to be made anymore. The new record is a 8722.78 MHz – yes 8.72279Ghz !

So much for Intel's record.
 
New CPU Frequency World record on AMD FX-8370 ‘Vishera’
Top CPU Frequency to day: 8722.78 MHz
The new top CPU frequency validation record is now in the hands of The Stilt, a Finish overclockers who’s reputation isn’t to be made anymore. The new record is a 8722.78 MHz – yes 8.72279Ghz !

So much for Intel's record.
AMD wins with my 9370...http://www.imagebam.com/image/424652348530972 2 cores at 12.659GHz no crashes...stable...
 
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