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"Wurm" <a@b.c> wrote
> well, if we look at consoles only (everyone knows Nintendo is the king of
> handhelds..... *why* is another matter entirely),
If we're not going to look at "sony" with respect to "consoles only" or
Microsoft with respect to "consoles only" then I don't know why you'd choose
to do it with JUST Nintendo. Seems like you're skewing the numbers right out
of the gate. There was no reference made to "it could be Nintendo's rebirth
in the console area" merely a mention that hinted that somehow Nintendo was
on a decline.
> nintendo has been steadily
> losing overall market share since the N64 to new upstart companies who
> didn't have any real experience in the console world.
I don't know that I'd call Sony a "new upstart company" and I don't think
that "experience in the console world" has anything to do with it. Sega had
TONS of "experience in the console world" and they went belly up with their
console business. I think it simply was a series of unfortunate decisions
that they made while making several other key decisions in other areas that
maybe *weren't* so unfortunate (handhelds and game publishing & designing
immediately spring to mind). I think their unfortunate decisions counter
balance nicely with their successes. They easily develop the best *games* of
any development house out there, and as I said before, Myamoto is easily one
of the best game designers (if not *the* best) in the short history of
gaming.
And let's not forget that the Xbox is pretty much considered a failure in
Japan. Microsoft isn't even a blip over there. The whole world doesn't
revolve around Microsoft and Sony like it does in North America. Nintendo
*owns* Japan...just as much as Sony does.
> That, and that alone
> is a surefire indication that they are on the way out, you dont need to
> look
> at share prices to see it.
Well that's good because over the last two years, the share price has been
rising...so it's a good thing you didn't look at it, and in fact, it only
fell during the year and a half that the gamecube floundered.
They're nowhere near "on their way out". Just look at the excitement that
revolution is generating. People are talking about the power of the Sony
PS3, but now it's slowly creeping out that Blu-Ray DVD players are
*massively* expensive, and production of them might actually delay the
release of the PS3 by up to six months AND price it WAY out of the reach of
the average gamer. Likewise, after a whiz-bang launch on MTV, people are
starting to whisper that perhaps the Xbox360 might not be all about
that...the only company with consistently positive buzz coming out of E3
appears to be Nintendo. Their DS releases look terrific, the Revolution has
*everyone* talking about the potential for the Nintendo library of games,
and people are actually saying, "I didn't get a gamecube, but I'm sure gonna
get a revolution if you can play those games" and we already know it's 100%
backward compatible with Cube games because you'll be able to insert your
GameCube discs *into the unit* not to mention the backwards compatibility
with over 20 years of Nintendo's library, which companies like Namco and
Konami will be *all over* making money *again* on...
Like I said, I think the "hype" about Nintendo being "out" is really
that...just hype...and I'm certainly no Nintendo apologist...ask anyone, I'm
not one to go around banging the Nintendo drum, but you certainly can't
underestimate their ability to deliver fantastic products that people love
to play. They've been doing it for over 20 years...of all the companies
involved in Video Games, *they're* the ones who most directly speak to the
gamer in all of us.
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