[SOLVED] XFX AMD Radeon™ RX 580 GTS getting very hot

[Daggas]

Hello. I just finished building my third PC and after a few benchmarks the GPU (XFX AMD Radeon™ RX 580) is getting pretty hot on load ~85°C .
I've tried Cleaning the GPU entirely and re-applied the thermal paste, but it only dropped by 2-3°C.
If there's nothing left to do, will installing two 120mm intake fans right under the GPU help like shown in the picture?
https://ibb.co/4MsbRTh

RIG:
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600
RAM: 2x8Gb 2666Mhz
GPU: XFX AMD Radeon RX 580 8Gb
PSU: 600W Xilence
Single 1TB HDD

 

[Ralston18]

What motherboard and case?

My concern would be that adding fans would simply mask the real problem. Airflows matter and if the fans are not installed per specifications and/or as recommended cooling could even be reduced. GPU (and other components) end up even hotter.

Is the Xilence PSU new, used, refurbished? Source?

Have you added up the wattage requirements for the build? How close is that wattage total to 600W?

The following link will be helpful with respect to why I am asking those questions.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

A poor PSU can lead to and cause any number of problems.

 

[Daggas]

What motherboard and case?

My concern would be that adding fans would simply mask the real problem. Airflows matter and if the fans are not installed per specifications and/or as recommended cooling could even be reduced. GPU (and other components) end up even hotter.

Is the Xilence PSU new, used, refurbished? Source?

Have you added up the wattage requirements for the build? How close is that wattage total to 600W?

The following link will be helpful with respect to why I am asking those questions.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

A poor PSU can lead to and cause any number of problems.

Thanks for the reply. The PSU is brand new. The motherboard is GA-A320M-H, also brand new.
The case tho, it's a GTT RAPTOR F-12
I've done the whole Wattage calculation on this website a few times before even making this build:
https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
and it would always say ~450
Now im pretty sure the fans are okay to be there in this case, on the website and the manual it says, that it supports 8x120mm fans. (2 at the top, 2 at the bottom, 1 rear, 3 front)

 

[Ralston18]

The Xilence PSU may be rated for 600 watts but that is under ideal circumstances.

And likewise all of the computer's wattage requirements are likely established under ideal circumstances.

What wattage came up for your GPU or what wattage did you use?

The following link (provided that I have indeed correctly identified your GPU) states that the recommended PSU should be 500 watts.

https://www.cnet.com/products/xfx-radeon-rx-580-gts/

So on paper you have a 150 watt margin between wattage demand (450 watts) and available wattage (via thePSU at 600 watts).

Realistically I believe the margin is much smaller especially at peak loads. GPU being a high demand component.

Try a couple of the other power calculators. Use 500 watts for the GPU.

Do you have another PSU you can swap in?

No problem with adding fans per se but taking a closer look at the power demand vs supply is worth the effort.

Look for some reviews on that Xilence PSU that address reliability, quality, etc..

What games do you play and how long are your gaming sessions? Continual high load demands also degrade a PSU and can bring about and premature design EOL (End of Life).

Although the problem at hand is cooling I believe it may be worthwhile to move your post to PC Gaming.

Someone there may be able to comment on your build, the PSU, and the relevant demands of your game play.

 

[Daggas]

The Xilence PSU may be rated for 600 watts but that is under ideal circumstances.

And likewise all of the computer's wattage requirements are likely established under ideal circumstances.

What wattage came up for your GPU or what wattage did you use?

The following link (provided that I have indeed correctly identified your GPU) states that the recommended PSU should be 500 watts.

https://www.cnet.com/products/xfx-radeon-rx-580-gts/

So on paper you have a 150 watt margin between wattage demand (450 watts) and available wattage (via thePSU at 600 watts).

Realistically I believe the margin is much smaller especially at peak loads. GPU being a high demand component.

Try a couple of the other power calculators. Use 500 watts for the GPU.

Do you have another PSU you can swap in?

No problem with adding fans per se but taking a closer look at the power demand vs supply is worth the effort.

Look for some reviews on that Xilence PSU that address reliability, quality, etc..

What games do you play and how long are your gaming sessions? Continual high load demands also degrade a PSU and can bring about and premature design EOL (End of Life).

Although the problem at hand is cooling I believe it may be worthwhile to move your post to PC Gaming.

Someone there may be able to comment on your build, the PSU, and the relevant demands of your game play.

Thanks again. Yeah, I've been thinking of switching a PSU, but im not quite sure if that's what makes the GPU temperatures rise.
The fan speeds ramp up and all, Core and memory clocks stay at it's full.
(Not sure if this is any use) But what I've seen right now from a few latest benchmarks, is that it slowly rises up from ~40°C all the way to around 85°C... Like a slow curve up and the fans speed up at the same rate.

Will try to switch a PSU if possible and see if that helps.

 

[Ralston18]

That slow rise is interesting:

Use Resource Monitor or Task Manager to observe system performance.

You may discover something else going on that corresponds with the temperature increase.

 

[cryoburner]

Realistically I believe the margin is much smaller especially at peak loads. GPU being a high demand component.

Try a couple of the other power calculators. Use 500 watts for the GPU.

No consumer graphics card will require 500 watts on its own. What they are saying there is that 500 watts is the minimum PSU recommended for an entire system running that card, including all other components, which they are likely overestimating for to account for substandard PSUs and certain CPUs that can require lots of power. An RX 580 itself only draws around 200-225 watts under load in typical usage scenarios. So, between that, and not much more than 65 watts for a Ryzen 1600, and another 50 watts or so for the motherboard and other less power-hungry components, you're looking at roughly around 350 watts of power draw from the PSU when both the CPU and GPU are heavily loaded. There might be some spikes above that, but a semi-decent 500 watt PSU is likely to be plenty for a system with those components.

I'm not too familiar with the Xilence brand of PSUs, or which exact model this is, and I think they have some good, and some mediocre models, but I don't suspect the amount of power that the PSU can deliver would be a problem here. At the very least, I don't think that would be making the card run hot.

I'm not too familiar with that particular case either, as it's not widely available in the US, but it looks like it has a window in front of the front fans, with what appears to be limited airflow in front...

http://www.gtt-cn.com/product-info.php?ptid=1345

So, it's very possible that case temperatures are rising during a gaming session, increasing the card's temperature over time. Adding some additional fans might help, though it doesn't look like it will get all that much airflow from the PSU compartment either. You might also try removing some PCI slot covers below the card to see whether that improves airflow in that area. Removing the window in front would most likely help, but depending on the case, it might not look good with that removed.

 

[Daggas]

No consumer graphics card will require 500 watts on its own. What they are saying there is that 500 watts is the minimum PSU recommended for an entire system running that card, including all other components, which they are likely overestimating for to account for substandard PSUs and certain CPUs that can require lots of power. An RX 580 itself only draws around 200-225 watts under load in typical usage scenarios. So, between that, and not much more than 65 watts for a Ryzen 1600, and another 50 watts or so for the motherboard and other less power-hungry components, you're looking at roughly around 350 watts of power draw from the PSU when both the CPU and GPU are heavily loaded. There might be some spikes above that, but a semi-decent 500 watt PSU is likely to be plenty for a system with those components.

I'm not too familiar with the Xilence brand of PSUs, or which exact model this is, and I think they have some good, and some mediocre models, but I don't suspect the amount of power that the PSU can deliver would be a problem here. At the very least, I don't think that would be making the card run hot.

I'm not too familiar with that particular case either, as it's not widely available in the US, but it looks like it has a window in front of the front fans, with what appears to be limited airflow in front...

http://www.gtt-cn.com/product-info.php?ptid=1345

So, it's very possible that case temperatures are rising during a gaming session, increasing the card's temperature over time. Adding some additional fans might help, though it doesn't look like it will get all that much airflow from the PSU compartment either. You might also try removing some PCI slot covers below the card to see whether that improves airflow in that area. Removing the window in front would most likely help, but depending on the case, it might not look good with that removed.

Now, I took your advice and removed the front panel off.. And im shocked..
The temps of the GPU dropped all the way to ~77°C... Does this mean that this case is bad or what?
Thank you very much!

 

[cryoburner]

The temps of the GPU dropped all the way to ~77°C... Does this mean that this case is bad or what?

It might not necessarily be "bad", but it may not ideal for running graphics cards that can put out a decent amount of heat. Some cases have been putting windows in front of front fans lately, which can look nice, but can in many cases limit how much airflow those fans can draw in if they have to pull it through a small opening. It's not really clear from the product photos where the air is drawing in from there.

You could always experiment with moving the existing fans around too. In most cases, its best for fans to draw in from the front and/or bottom and exhaust through the back and/or top, but if the airflow is restricted too much that way, swapping the directions of some fans around in a different way might potentially help.