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In article <yNsVc.162645$J06.51901@pd7tw2no>, callanca@shaw.ca says...
> If you can't trust people on the internal net, no OS will save you.
>
> Infecting *nix from the outside is a lot harder than Windows where
> everything is executable.
>
> > There is no such thing as a secure platform.
> >
>
> Agreed, but *nix and its model is inherently a better security model for
> a NETWORKED os, which is pretty much a requirement for most devices
> nowadays.

The point to all of this is that a single system, on any OS, is
susceptible to being compromised before you patch and secure it. Most
default installs by non-IT types have way more than needed - most Nix
distro's provide MANY things that are not the OS code, as does Windows.
If you start from a somewhat protected environment you can save a lot of
pain.

SP2, while fixing a lot of things, is only a placebo. The people that
install it are the ones that are already doing their updates. It's the
people that don't have a clue, don't do updates, and can't even
understand the difference between the Internet and the web (or email),
that we need to get help for.

If ISP's where to implement NAT on their devices as the default install,
and most can easily do it, it would save a lot of people from a lot of
problems, and it would not cost the ISP anything.

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That's true, because you will already have much of the upgrade.

But my view of things is that I WANT the whole 270 meg file, for burning
to a CD where I can then use it on other systems of unknown windows XP
version (home, Pro, media Center, tablet PC) and "windows update" status.

So say the windows update version only ends up downloading 90MB of the
total 270 MB. I don't want to have to do that ???? times. Give the the
CD, once, and I'm set.

Also, with the full 270 MB version, you can make a "slipstream" Windows
XP install CD that has SP2 integrated. You cant do that via windows update.


peter wrote:

> As I understood the size thing ...if you are up to date on your updates it will
> not be as large an update as the 270mb that you download
> which has all the updates in it since SP1
> ?????
> peter
> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4125635C.6040705@neo.rr.com...
>
>>Re: "The version that will be on the XP update site will not be as large"
>>
>>That's not exactly right.
>>
>>The windows update version will download a 1.6 MB program that will examine
>>your system and then further download only and exactly what your system needs.
>>
>>The 270 MB version has everything in it that ANY system might need. All files
>>that the 1.6 MB program might possibly download and install.
>>
>>BUT, what actually ends up getting installed on any given system under these
>>two installation schemes is EXACTLY the same, in the end. There is no
>>difference.
>>
>
>
>

 

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Barry,

Thank you for your advice and the information.

I download the full 278MB file and have installed it on two of my three PCs
with no problems.

Since I have a hardware firewall (SonicWALL/10), I disabled the Windows
Firewall. It's my understanding that with the SonicWALL, I don't need the
Windows Firewall. Right?

I like the IE popup blocker (which I didn't have before), and also that OE
now refuses to display images. So much of the spam I get has embedded
images. While most get deleted right away, it's still a nice safeguard that
OE now has this feature.

John



"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, it's been out for over a week (came out last Tuesday). You can get
> it here:
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
>
> In my opinion, the update itself is near perfect and bug free.
> Basically all of the issues fall into one of two categories:
>
> 1. The firewall blocks ports needed by some applications. However it's
> easy to unblock them, and they are unblocked only for that application.
>
> 2. A few -- very few -- programs truly have issues, but from what I've
> seen, the bugs are in those programs, not the service pack, and updates
> for those programs are being released very, very quickly (most are
> already out).
>
> The link above is to the FULL SP2 update. It's bigger than most people
> will need, but it is the final "gold" release. What's not out yet are
> both various distribution channels (e.g. you can't get the update
> "delivered" via Windows Update -- yet), and the "breakdown" smaller
> versions of the service pack for only specific versions of Windows (only
> Home, only Pro, only Tablet PC, only Media PC, etc.). However the link
> above has EVERYTHING, and will update an original Windows XP (without
> even SP1) to SP2 with every security patch and update (including
> DirectX, Windows Media Player and IE) as of last week. It also works
> for any version of Windows that had been fully or partially updated. In
> short, it's the one you want when you want the very best [all of the
> scary "network and system administrator only" warnings at the microsoft
> downloage page above not withstanding].

 

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In article <r8idnSRk2uElTLrcRVn-tA@lmi.net>, nomail@nomail.com says...
> I like the IE popup blocker (which I didn't have before), and also that OE
> now refuses to display images. So much of the spam I get has embedded
> images. While most get deleted right away, it's still a nice safeguard that
> OE now has this feature.

If you like the pop-up blocker in IE, try FireFox from Mozilla, it will
also block images not from the root web site, pop-ups, etc.... I've been
running it on customers systems and my own for over a month and have yet
to find a site that doesn't work with it.

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The IE popup blobker is nice, because it is part of IE.

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> In article <r8idnSRk2uElTLrcRVn-tA@lmi.net>, nomail@nomail.com says...
>> I like the IE popup blocker (which I didn't have before), and also that
>> OE
>> now refuses to display images. So much of the spam I get has embedded
>> images. While most get deleted right away, it's still a nice safeguard
>> that
>> OE now has this feature.
>
> If you like the pop-up blocker in IE, try FireFox from Mozilla, it will
> also block images not from the root web site, pop-ups, etc.... I've been
> running it on customers systems and my own for over a month and have yet
> to find a site that doesn't work with it.
>
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In article <10ihjdloh0pqn29@corp.supernews.com>, sept1967@highstream
says...
> The IE popup blobker is nice, because it is part of IE.

But FireFox is nice because it doesn't expose you to the know and
unknown things that IE does on most users system. Don't get me wrong, I
make a lot of money installing Win based servers and workstations, but
FireFox has become the new standard for our clients - the only catch is
for ones that need active-x controls on custom web apps.

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"Sept1967" <sept1967@highstream(remove).net> wrote in message
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> The IE popup blobker is nice, because it is part of IE.
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b9262fe68de2e5298972c@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
> > In article <r8idnSRk2uElTLrcRVn-tA@lmi.net>, nomail@nomail.com says...
> >> I like the IE popup blocker (which I didn't have before), and also
that
> >> OE
> >> now refuses to display images. So much of the spam I get has
embedded
> >> images. While most get deleted right away, it's still a nice
safeguard
> >> that
> >> OE now has this feature.
> >
> > If you like the pop-up blocker in IE, try FireFox from Mozilla, it
will
> > also block images not from the root web site, pop-ups, etc.... I've
been
> > running it on customers systems and my own for over a month and have
yet
> > to find a site that doesn't work with it.
The blocking features of FireFox, are part of it as well. The big
advantage it has, is that you get rid of IE completely...

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:58:57 GMT, Leythos <void@nowhere.com> wrote:

>In article <r8idnSRk2uElTLrcRVn-tA@lmi.net>, nomail@nomail.com says...
>> I like the IE popup blocker (which I didn't have before), and also that OE
>> now refuses to display images. So much of the spam I get has embedded
>> images. While most get deleted right away, it's still a nice safeguard that
>> OE now has this feature.
>
>If you like the pop-up blocker in IE, try FireFox from Mozilla,

I am using it but it's full of bugs. When I need reliable browsing, I
must go back to Internet explorer.

 

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In article <n2iii0hhpf34v6vug7pgnvvpkmd8ahmal1@4ax.com>,
nospam@nowhere.net says...
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:58:57 GMT, Leythos <void@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <r8idnSRk2uElTLrcRVn-tA@lmi.net>, nomail@nomail.com says...
> >> I like the IE popup blocker (which I didn't have before), and also that OE
> >> now refuses to display images. So much of the spam I get has embedded
> >> images. While most get deleted right away, it's still a nice safeguard that
> >> OE now has this feature.
> >
> >If you like the pop-up blocker in IE, try FireFox from Mozilla,
>
> I am using it but it's full of bugs. When I need reliable browsing, I
> must go back to Internet explorer.

If you are using 0.9.3 I would like to know "what bugs" you've seen,
I've got it installed on a BUNCH of workstation in offices and have yet
to find a user that even knows about the switch - meaning that
everything is working and they are not complaining.

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:40:46 -0400, "Rick & Darlene"
<Bluemagic@comcast.net> wrote:

>Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
>
>Rick
>


It has wrecked the onboard LAN in my A7V8X. I had to put in a PCI LAN
card. Others, not all of them Asus users, have reported similar
problems. In my case, the Broadcom LAN gets given an inappropriate IP
address.

SP2 has also screwed up my Panasonic laser printer. Gives constant
"Paper jam" errors in Micros**t Word. Fine with everything else!

MK





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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:41:20 +0100, "Nero" <nero@rome.it> wrote:

>What has XP SP2 got to do with this group??
>


Er, because people who use Asus motherboards use Windows and want to
know if there are any specific issues they should consider? Like why
has SP2 killed on onboard LAN? That is onboard as in a part of the
Asus Motherboard.

I certainly come here first when wanting to troubleshoot problems with
my Asus PCs. You get a better class of nerd here.




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On 23-Aug-2004, kenward@ukgateway.net wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:40:46 -0400, "Rick & Darlene"
> Bluemagic@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
> Rick

I installed sp2 on 3 computers in my house. One with
a K8V, 1 with a A7N8X rev 1.04, and a Dell (P4 but dont know
what motherboard) and so far, no problems on any of the
three. Been running sp2 on these for about 2 weeks now.

 

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nospam@nowhere.net wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:58:57 GMT, Leythos <void@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <r8idnSRk2uElTLrcRVn-tA@lmi.net>, nomail@nomail.com says...
>>
>>>I like the IE popup blocker (which I didn't have before), and also that OE
>>>now refuses to display images. So much of the spam I get has embedded
>>>images. While most get deleted right away, it's still a nice safeguard that
>>>OE now has this feature.
>>
>>If you like the pop-up blocker in IE, try FireFox from Mozilla,
>
>
> I am using it but it's full of bugs. When I need reliable browsing, I
> must go back to Internet explorer.

Your backwards.

I am using /IE/ but it's full of bugs, When I need reliable browsing, I
must go back to FireFox.

Unless you consider running a buggy, insecure POS that will help hackers
0wn your machine 'reliable'

Windows is reliable! It auto-updates with the latest virus in 20 minutes
or less (when unpatched) !

 

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Ditto.
Downloaded the full SP2 (266mb),
Installed on P4P800-VM , and a P4R800-VM , about 2 weeks now, no problems.


"Mark Timerding" <mtimerding@fuse.net> wrote in message
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>
> On 23-Aug-2004, kenward@ukgateway.net wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:40:46 -0400, "Rick & Darlene"
>> Bluemagic@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
>> Rick
>
> I installed sp2 on 3 computers in my house. One with
> a K8V, 1 with a A7N8X rev 1.04, and a Dell (P4 but dont know
> what motherboard) and so far, no problems on any of the
> three. Been running sp2 on these for about 2 weeks now.
>

 

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In article <dfkji0p9ic5iddam8n3av9tbaf1b3abjdk@4ax.com>,
kenward@ukgateway.net says...
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:40:46 -0400, "Rick & Darlene"
> <Bluemagic@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
> >
> >Rick
> >
>
>
> It has wrecked the onboard LAN in my A7V8X. I had to put in a PCI LAN
> card. Others, not all of them Asus users, have reported similar
> problems. In my case, the Broadcom LAN gets given an inappropriate IP
> address.
>
> SP2 has also screwed up my Panasonic laser printer. Gives constant
> "Paper jam" errors in Micros**t Word. Fine with everything else!

What you describe is completely impossible - a driver can not hard the
hardware of your network card or cause your printer to JAM.

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In article <MPG.1b942151e9ef50ed989739@news-server.columbus.rr.com>,
void@nowhere.com says...
> In article <dfkji0p9ic5iddam8n3av9tbaf1b3abjdk@4ax.com>,
> kenward@ukgateway.net says...
> > On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:40:46 -0400, "Rick & Darlene"
> > <Bluemagic@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> >
> >
> > It has wrecked the onboard LAN in my A7V8X. I had to put in a PCI LAN
> > card. Others, not all of them Asus users, have reported similar
> > problems. In my case, the Broadcom LAN gets given an inappropriate IP
> > address.
> >
> > SP2 has also screwed up my Panasonic laser printer. Gives constant
> > "Paper jam" errors in Micros**t Word. Fine with everything else!
>
> What you describe is completely impossible - a driver can not hard the
> hardware of your network card or cause your printer to JAM.
>
>
While it is possible that the drivers for the network card might need to
be reinstalled after sp2 the paper jam is comical. Did the weather
change after you installed SP2? Is it raining now and it wasn't raining
before? Blame that on Microsoft too.

 

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Here's a good site for info on SP2 written by Jim Fisher MS-MVP, who has
put this together following the end of the beta test ... it's still a
'work in progress' but it should answer a lot of your questions.
http://jmfmvps.mvps.org/SP2.htm
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Rick & Darlene wrote:
> Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
>
> Rick

 

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I've installed it about a dozen machines, with no problems.

I believe that your experience is unusual in the extreme.

I think it's a wonderful update, nearly bug free. Relatively few
programs have problems with it, and in my view the problem is in those
programs, not SP2. Port adjustments to the firewall, when required, are
generally "single-click" permissions to unblock (you don't even have to
know the port numbers).

kenward@ukgateway.net wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:40:46 -0400, "Rick & Darlene"
> <Bluemagic@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
>>
>>Rick
>>
>
>
>
> It has wrecked the onboard LAN in my A7V8X. I had to put in a PCI LAN
> card. Others, not all of them Asus users, have reported similar
> problems. In my case, the Broadcom LAN gets given an inappropriate IP
> address.
>
> SP2 has also screwed up my Panasonic laser printer. Gives constant
> "Paper jam" errors in Micros**t Word. Fine with everything else!
>
> MK
>
>
>
>
>
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:58:39 GMT, John <john@nospam.com> wrote:

>In article <MPG.1b942151e9ef50ed989739@news-server.columbus.rr.com>,
>void@nowhere.com says...
>> In article <dfkji0p9ic5iddam8n3av9tbaf1b3abjdk@4ax.com>,
>> kenward@ukgateway.net says...
>> > On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:40:46 -0400, "Rick & Darlene"
>> > <Bluemagic@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Anyone get the SP-2 update for XP? "Is it safe yet"?
>> > >
>> > >Rick
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > It has wrecked the onboard LAN in my A7V8X. I had to put in a PCI LAN
>> > card. Others, not all of them Asus users, have reported similar
>> > problems. In my case, the Broadcom LAN gets given an inappropriate IP
>> > address.
>> >
>> > SP2 has also screwed up my Panasonic laser printer. Gives constant
>> > "Paper jam" errors in Micros**t Word. Fine with everything else!
>>
>> What you describe is completely impossible - a driver can not hard the
>> hardware of your network card or cause your printer to JAM.
>>
>>
>While it is possible that the drivers for the network card might need to
>be reinstalled after sp2 the paper jam is comical. Did the weather
>change after you installed SP2? Is it raining now and it wasn't raining
>before? Blame that on Microsoft too.


One suggestion is that the new USB drivers installed by SP2 have
screwed up more than one bit of hardware.

Before you dismiss such suggestions, you might care to do a bit of
research. Were you, for example, the owner of a Psion Wavefinder, you
would certainly know that SP2 can screw up hardware. As to my printer,
I can only say that between not having problems and having them the
only change I made was to apply SP2.



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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:36:24 GMT, in
<MPG.1b942151e9ef50ed989739@news-server.columbus.rr.com>
(alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus) Leythos <void@nowhere.com> wrote:

> What you describe is completely impossible - a driver can not hard the
> hardware of your network card or cause your printer to JAM.

Since I installed SP2, TWO planes have crashed in Russia - surely that
can't be coincidence?


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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:46:28 +0100, in
<jjvmi0l8i8ij1quumql3m4nm81ja7pihuj@4ax.com>
(alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus) kenward@ukgateway.net wrote:

> Before you dismiss such suggestions, you might care to do a bit of
> research. Were you, for example, the owner of a Psion Wavefinder, you
> would certainly know that SP2 can screw up hardware. As to my printer,
> I can only say that between not having problems and having them the
> only change I made was to apply SP2.

A bit of research has suggested to me that the Psion Wavefinder's
problems predate SP2

http://www.spidersweb.freeserve.co.uk/dab/wffaq/#WhataretherecommndedsolutionstoknownWaveFinderproblems
http://mobileopera.com/wavefinder
http://www.wavefinder.co.uk/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000186.html

Wheras googling for

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=psion+wavefinder+XP+SP2+problem
or
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=psion+wavefinder+XP+service+pack+2+problem&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N

Returns no actual reports specific to psion wavefinder Windows XP
Service pack 2 problems. Where can I find information about SP2
screwing up hardware?

As for your printer, have you tried rolling back (de-installing SP2)
to see if that cures the paper jams? Or have you tried the printer on
another non-SP2 machine?

If neither of those are possible, or conclusive, try turning the
computer off altogether, or unplugging the connection between the
computer and the printer, and using the printer's self-test function.
That will enable you to rule out any problems with the paper path that
may have occured.

HTH

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:18:10 +0100, in
<dfkji0p9ic5iddam8n3av9tbaf1b3abjdk@4ax.com>
(alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus) kenward@ukgateway.net wrote:

> It has wrecked the onboard LAN in my A7V8X. I had to put in a PCI LAN
> card. Others, not all of them Asus users, have reported similar
> problems. In my case, the Broadcom LAN gets given an inappropriate IP
> address.

My motherboard is a K8V SE Deluxe which uses Marvell onboard
10/100/1000 LAN. XP SP2 caused me no problems with that hardware.

XP SP2 does close a number of ports by default which will surprise you
if you've not read the documentation: assorted network shares may
dissapear, software that uses ports that have been closed will b0rk,
etc. These symptoms can look a little like NW Hardware issues.

It's difficult to see how the software could fry your LAN. I can see
that the vendor's drivers may have have issues that cause them to stop
working. If you can find a DOS driver for it, you could try booting
from a DOS bootdisk and seeing if you can ping across the interface,
otherwise KNOPPIX might be able to load it (unfortunately it doesn't
see my Marvell), so you can test the issue away from XPSP2

You say the device is being given an inappropriate IP address, which
would imply that the hardware is still working enough to query a DHCP
server, get an address and confgure it. In what way is the address
inappropriate? Where is the DHCP server - is it yours, or your ISP's?


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How do you get into the XP firewall system to make manual settings?
I am new to Windows XP (Home Edition)
Thanks
DW

 

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:55:27 +0200, Charlie King
<charlie@removethisitsaspamtrap.stopthatitssilly.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:18:10 +0100, in
><dfkji0p9ic5iddam8n3av9tbaf1b3abjdk@4ax.com>
>(alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus) kenward@ukgateway.net wrote:
>
>> It has wrecked the onboard LAN in my A7V8X. I had to put in a PCI LAN
>> card. Others, not all of them Asus users, have reported similar
>> problems. In my case, the Broadcom LAN gets given an inappropriate IP
>> address.
>
>My motherboard is a K8V SE Deluxe which uses Marvell onboard
>10/100/1000 LAN. XP SP2 caused me no problems with that hardware.
>


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Thanks. I should also have added that SP2 did not mess up the LAN on
my A78NX-VM motherboard. That came pre-messed, and how I sorted it is
another story.


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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:29:30 +0200, Charlie King
<charlie@removethisitsaspamtrap.stopthatitssilly.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:36:24 GMT, in
><MPG.1b942151e9ef50ed989739@news-server.columbus.rr.com>
>(alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus) Leythos <void@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> What you describe is completely impossible - a driver can not hard the
>> hardware of your network card or cause your printer to JAM.
>
>Since I installed SP2, TWO planes have crashed in Russia - surely that
>can't be coincidence?


If there is a link between your PC and the software on board those
planes, then if I were you I would go into hiding.

In my case, the printer comes with a software interface that talks to
the PC. The printer hardware works just fine. It is just MS Word and
the machine that don't like one another. All other software is working
as it did pre SP2.




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