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Hi, Sheldon.
Unless I missed it in your narrative, you haven't yet tried an "in-place
upgrade", also called a "repair reinstallation", as described in this KB
article:
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341
This doesn't exactly
> disable all 3rd party
> software and drivers temporarily, do the install and then restore all
> the software and drivers back again.
But it does much the same thing from the other direction: It reinstalls
WinXP itself, while leaving applications, data and drivers in place.
As MS says, this is not intended as a timesaver; it will take about as long
as a clean install for WinXP itself. After the reinstall, WinXP will be the
version on the CD-ROM used for the project. My original "gold" CD-ROM from
October 2001 will be the original version; if yours has SP1 or SP1a
integrated, that's what you will get; after either of these, we would need
to install SP2 and any later fixes from Windows Update. If you wait a few
weeks, you should be able to find an updated WinXP CD-ROM with SP2
integrated.
Naturally, no matter which source CD-ROM you use for the in-place upgrade,
you will need to reactivate your firewall and antivirus and then visit
Windows Update to be sure your protection is current.
Of course, if your hardware vendor refuses to supply a WinXP CD-ROM, then
you'll have to buy one, I suppose. :>(
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"Sheldon" <redtekk@pld.com> wrote in message
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>I have installed the new xp service pack 2 that I received from
> microsoft on cd on about 10 computers so far...some networked and some
> standalone. On 2 machines a gateway about a year old and on a brand
> new emachines that is on a small business network with other xp
> machines which installed sp2 fine. I also was left with a desktop with
> no icons, no toolbars, or anything but the background desktop picture.
> I was able to get the desktop back by bringing up the task manager
> with the ctrl-alt-del and the went to file and run. Then, I ran sfc
> /scannow and restored the system files and it worked on a reboot and I
> had the desktop back. I then uninstalled all antivirus programs, as
> disabling them didn't work and tried it again, with same results and
> used my fix and got the desktop back again. I then tried to install it
> from safe mode thinking that something from 3rd party software was
> interfering with the install. Disastrous results(because the previous
> fix wouldn't work this time) but I did manage to get to a restore
> point from safe mode and restore to previous day set point but it took
> about 3 hours for the restore point to finish running and reboot. But,
> everything came out fine. I emailed Microsoft with my experiences and
> was told it was probably due to 3rd party software or drivers not
> compatible with sp2. Their solution? Delete the partition and do a
> clean install of xp and then do the upgrade. Problem? A complete
> reinstall for a service pack? Not many financial instituitions I deal
> with want their hard drives wiped. As a matter of fact with the
> propreitary software that comes with the
> emachines,hp,compaq,gateway,etc. There isn't any way to do a "clean
> install of windows" because they don't give you that. They give you a
> recovery disk which wipes the drive and reinstalls all of their 3rd
> party software also. Microsoft also mentioned in their email that sp2
> can't be installed on a Gateway.
> I personally believe their ought to be a way to disable all 3rd party
> software and drivers temporarily, do the install and then restore all
> the software and drivers back again. I know it would involve editing
> registry settings and startup files and so forth which seems to me an
> rather enormous task depending on the amount of software and drivers
> on the machine, but there must be someway. I have even wondered about
> uninstalling all programs but windows, and unloading all the drivers
> and replacing with default microsoft drivers and then rolling them
> back after the install. But, haven't had the guts to attempt it yet.
> I hope my experience helps some of you with your problems and maybe
> someone out there can help me figure a way around the wipe and clean
> install solution of MS. Any good ideas out there? I must say though
> that on the other machines I did, the installs went perfectly and the
> new service pack2 is definitely a great improvement. I have many 3rd
> party programs on my home network and had not one problem with the
> install, I also have several non-signed drivers on my machines too. So
> trying to track down the problem has been frustrating because I can't
> seem to find the offending software, btw, 2 of the machines on that
> network are emachines with the emachines preinstalled software and all
> the same programs are on both machines, one installed fine the other
> didn't. Go figure!
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