YANI: Hallucination

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This one's more serious than Heck-Hack.

When a character is confused or hallucinating, why shouldn't there be a
small chance that the devotee will say the wrong thing or pray to the wrong
god. This act would reduce piety, decrease luck or remove crowning. I
suggest the possibility of removing crowning because it would have a
beneficial effect of returning prayer timeout to normal. Most of the
intrinsics granted by crowning are obtainable through mundane means. Once
lost, one can't get it back.

The idea came to me while confused and hallucinating in a temple dedicated
to Amaterasu Okami. My samurai was starving and a quick and effortless
prayer sated his hunger. Hopefully no one will think this idea would
needlessly increase the difficulty of Nethack.

 

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Haakon Studebaker wrote:
> When a character is confused or hallucinating, why shouldn't there be a
> small chance that the devotee will say the wrong thing or pray to the wrong
> god. This act would reduce piety, decrease luck or remove crowning. I
> suggest the possibility of removing crowning because it would have a
> beneficial effect of returning prayer timeout to normal. Most of the
> intrinsics granted by crowning are obtainable through mundane means. Once
> lost, one can't get it back.
>
> Hopefully no one will think this idea would
> needlessly increase the difficulty of Nethack.

Extinctionists would certainly like this idea. I think the penalty isn't
anything at all if compared to the benefit of removing crowning. Like
someone here said, crowning is just the game's way to tell you have to
move on. The intrinsics are really easy to get withour crowning (except
if you're a vegetarian). So, in my opinion this idea would just make the
game a lot easier (especially with extinctionists).

Some of the effects maybe should be more evil, like summoning a nasty
monster and losing protection.

 

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Eero Heikkinen wrote:
> Haakon Studebaker wrote:
>
>> When a character is confused or hallucinating, why shouldn't there be
>> a small chance that the devotee will say the wrong thing or pray to
>> the wrong god. This act would reduce piety, decrease luck or remove
>> crowning. I suggest the possibility of removing crowning because it
>> would have a beneficial effect of returning prayer timeout to normal.
>> Most of the intrinsics granted by crowning are obtainable through
>> mundane means. Once lost, one can't get it back.
>>
>> Hopefully no one will think this idea would needlessly increase the
>> difficulty of Nethack.
>
>
> Extinctionists would certainly like this idea. I think the penalty isn't
> anything at all if compared to the benefit of removing crowning. Like
> someone here said, crowning is just the game's way to tell you have to
> move on. The intrinsics are really easy to get withour crowning (except
> if you're a vegetarian). So, in my opinion this idea would just make the
> game a lot easier (especially with extinctionists).
>
> Some of the effects maybe should be more evil, like summoning a nasty
> monster and losing protection.

If you remove crowning, it should also remove everything that comes with
crowning regardless of if you had it before being crowned or not. That
would make a considerably greater penalty if you're not prepared with
supplies to regain the intrinsics.

Also should remove the artifactness of any weapon you may be wielding.

 

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> Eero Heikkinen wrote:

> If you remove crowning, it should also remove everything that comes
> with crowning regardless of if you had it before being crowned or not.
> That would make a considerably greater penalty if you're not prepared
> with supplies to regain the intrinsics.
>
> Also should remove the artifactness of any weapon you may be wielding.
>
>

That's exactly what I was thinking

 

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Haakon Studebaker <heptapod@gmail.com> wrote:
[proposal: mentally befuddled characters might pray to the wrong god]
>The idea came to me while confused and hallucinating in a temple dedicated
>to Amaterasu Okami. My samurai was starving and a quick and effortless
>prayer sated his hunger. Hopefully no one will think this idea would
>needlessly increase the difficulty of Nethack.

I think it would. Furthermore, I think it's silly. Given that being
confused/hallucinating does not prevent Nethack characters from
recognising their own inventory or remembering their own name or their
pet's name or the layout of the dungeon, I would tend to think that
something even more important (like their god's name) would be even
easier to remember.
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Martin Read schrieb:
> Haakon Studebaker <heptapod@gmail.com> wrote:
> [proposal: mentally befuddled characters might pray to the wrong god]
>
>>The idea came to me while confused and hallucinating in a temple dedicated
>>to Amaterasu Okami. My samurai was starving and a quick and effortless
>>prayer sated his hunger. Hopefully no one will think this idea would
>>needlessly increase the difficulty of Nethack.
>
>
> I think it would. Furthermore, I think it's silly. Given that being
> confused/hallucinating does not prevent Nethack characters from
> recognising their own inventory or remembering their own name or their

In slashem, hallucination prevents you from recognizing your inventory.
(Of course, you will still know that a) used to be your primary weapon,
for example Excalibur, but it will be listed as, e.g., a mace.)

> pet's name or the layout of the dungeon, I would tend to think that
> something even more important (like their god's name) would be even
> easier to remember.


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Klaus Kassner