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I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted jelly
TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards? the monster
spoiler says:
j spotted jelly 5 0 8 10 a* (0d6A)
Ok. Passive acid attack, of ZERO d6's? huh?
 
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David Damerell wrote:

> begin quoting <Irashtar@gmail.com>:
>> I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted jelly
>> TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards?
>
> Throw rocks, or any other ranged attack.

You can even just ignore them, if they're not directly blocking your path.

--
Benjamin Lewis

I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover
 
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Irashtar@gmail.com wrote:
>I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted jelly
>TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards? the monster
>spoiler says:
>j spotted jelly 5 0 8 10 a* (0d6A)
>Ok. Passive acid attack, of ZERO d6's? huh?

Zero for the number of dice rolled is used as a magic number in the
monster database to mean "this attack does a number of damage dice equal
to the actual instantiated monster's hit dice, plus one".

So, a spotted jelly (base HD: 5) with no upward skew on its hit dice will
do 6-36 acid damage each time its defensive splash hits you. A spotted
jelly which has bonus hit dice for any reason will do another 1-6 damage
for each extra hit die it has.

I don't know how the hit dice skew function works and lack the effort to
look it up right now.
--
Martin Read - my opinions are my own. share them if you wish.
My roguelike games page (including my BSD-licenced roguelike) can be found at:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~mpread/roguelikes.html
 
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Irashtar@gmail.com writes:

> I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted jelly
> TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards?

Don't melee with them.
 
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Tommi Syrjanen wrote:
> Irashtar@gmail.com writes:

>> I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted
>> jelly TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards?

> Don't melee with them.

Will a bullwhip be damaged when you wield it against them?

Will you deal damage when you apply it towards them?

Will you get damage when you hit them with it?

Will you get damage when you aplly it towards them?

--
Boudewijn Waijers (kroisos at home.nl).

The garden of happiness is surrounded by a wall so low only children
can look over it. - "the Orphanage of Hits", former Dutch radio show.
 
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"Boudewijn Waijers" <kroisos@REMOVETHISWORD.home.nl> wrote:
>Tommi Syrjanen wrote:
>> Irashtar@gmail.com writes:
>>> I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted
>>> jelly TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards?
>
>> Don't melee with them.
>
>Will a bullwhip be damaged when you wield it against them?

Spotted jellies' defensive attack is acid; leather is not damaged by
acid in Nethack.

>Will you deal damage when you apply it towards them?

Yes, if you are proficient; they do not have a thick skin and cannot
wield weapons, so applying a bullwhip at them defaults to an atatck,
which is capable of dealing damage, resolved using attack().

>Will you get damage when you hit them with it?

Yes.

>Will you get damage when you aplly it towards them?

Yes; the resulting attack is resolved normally through a call to
attack().
--
Martin Read - my opinions are my own. share them if you wish.
My roguelike games page (including my BSD-licenced roguelike) can be found at:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~mpread/roguelikes.html
 
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Martin Read wrote:
> "Boudewijn Waijers" <kroisos@REMOVETHISWORD.home.nl> wrote:

[ bullwhip versus spotted jelly ]

>> Will you get damage when you apply it towards them?

> Yes; the resulting attack is resolved normally through a call to
> attack().

I think this is an oversight, at least when you apply it from two
squares away.

--
Boudewijn Waijers (kroisos at home.nl).

The garden of happiness is surrounded by a wall so low only children
can look over it. - "the Orphanage of Hits", former Dutch radio show.
 
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begin quoting <Irashtar@gmail.com>:
>I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted jelly
>TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards?

Throw rocks, or any other ranged attack.
--
David Damerell <damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk> flcl?
Today is Second Friday, February.
 
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Irashtar@gmail.com wrote:
> I had an awsome character, and With 86 HP, -15 AC I hit a spotted
jelly
> TWICE and die. ARG! what to do against these bastards?

>From drgn-343.txt at http://www.spod-central.org/~psmith/nh/
Acid resistance can be acquired with yellow dragon scalemail/scales
or an alchemy smock. Also through various polyself methods.

HTH,

Sean
 
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Yeah, one thing I leaned in nethack the hard way was to resist the
urge to whomp on everything I see... especially jellies/fungi, etc
that can do massive damage when they are not really a threat.

tiny k
 
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