bwahahahaha now you off on another tangent, what can't take the heat? I'II post my cpu-z val right after you answer the questions you've been avoiding like the this one:
Funny how you couldn't address the overvolt I posted in the anandtechhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AnandTech review...bwahahahaha.....hmmm what words of dribble have you got for that?
and:
What are you talking about vegetable?
I am running at 1:1, you buttfcuk. If you didn't have a melon for a head you'd realise that if my multi is at 11 and my FSB at 380Mhz, I get 4.18Ghz, close enough to call 4.2Ghz, I can even go 12x375 to get 4.5Ghz but my temps during a long render get near 64c so I backed it off. If I loosen my timings I can get my DDR3 singing at 1:1 on a 390 FSB. Get why I wanted to go to the 1600Mhz RAM small ****?
Funny how you couldn't address the overvolt I posted in the anandtechhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AnandTech review...bwahahahaha.....hmmm what words of dribble have you got for that?
and:
What are you talking about vegetable?
I am running at 1:1, you buttfcuk. If you didn't have a melon for a head you'd realise that if my multi is at 11 and my FSB at 380Mhz, I get 4.18Ghz, close enough to call 4.2Ghz, I can even go 12x375 to get 4.5Ghz but my temps during a long render get near 64c so I backed it off. If I loosen my timings I can get my DDR3 singing at 1:1 on a 390 FSB. Get why I wanted to go to the 1600Mhz RAM small ****?
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Hey Grimmy.... look at my validation.....
Wait why does mine say my memory is running at 334MHz..... Shouldn't it be at 667MHz??.....
Stupid memory and the crapping and stuff...
Wait why does mine say my memory is running at 334MHz..... Shouldn't it be at 667MHz??.....
Stupid memory and the crapping and stuff...
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Well you wanted a 3ghz OC.
Your running your DDR2 800 ram at DDR2 667 speeds, like numb nutz @ his 4.2ghz OC. That is, if he actually has one.
Edit:
Type Speed Symbol Data Rate Module
DDR3 800 MHz PC3-12800 12.8 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR3 667 MHz PC3-10600 10.6 GB/sec 240-pin <-- where Numb Nutz **** moron thinks he's at
DDR3 533 MHz PC3-8500 8.5 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR3 400 MHz PC3-6400 6.4 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 533 MHz PC2-8500 8.5 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 500 MHz PC2-8000 8.0 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 400 MHz PC2-6400 6.4 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 375 MHz PC2-6000 6.0 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 333 MHz PC2-5300 5.3 GB/sec 240-pin <- Jim your here, running the DDR2 800 at that speed
DDR2 266 MHz PC2-4200 4.2 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 200 MHz PC2-3200 3.2 GB/sec 240-pin
And if you look at mine, I'm running my DDR2 800 @ 356mhz for DDR2 712 speed.
Your running your DDR2 800 ram at DDR2 667 speeds, like numb nutz @ his 4.2ghz OC. That is, if he actually has one.
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Type Speed Symbol Data Rate Module
DDR3 800 MHz PC3-12800 12.8 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR3 667 MHz PC3-10600 10.6 GB/sec 240-pin <-- where Numb Nutz **** moron thinks he's at
DDR3 533 MHz PC3-8500 8.5 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR3 400 MHz PC3-6400 6.4 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 533 MHz PC2-8500 8.5 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 500 MHz PC2-8000 8.0 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 400 MHz PC2-6400 6.4 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 375 MHz PC2-6000 6.0 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 333 MHz PC2-5300 5.3 GB/sec 240-pin <- Jim your here, running the DDR2 800 at that speed
DDR2 266 MHz PC2-4200 4.2 GB/sec 240-pin
DDR2 200 MHz PC2-3200 3.2 GB/sec 240-pin
And if you look at mine, I'm running my DDR2 800 @ 356mhz for DDR2 712 speed.
LOL jimmy I wanted to stay quiet on that one until a few more people got involved so I could blow this vegetable right out of the water, nevermind I think I've stripped him naked and changed him to a log in front of Hells Angels bike club bwahahahahahaha
Hey donkey, here's the anandtech review with only a 400Mhz FSB, even further away from your dreamy 667Mhz........oh but but BUTFCUK......they overvolted the PC-14400 RAM by 0.55v.....what's going on Grimmy? Hmmm?
Hey donkey, here's the anandtech review with only a 400Mhz FSB, even further away from your dreamy 667Mhz........oh but but BUTFCUK......they overvolted the PC-14400 RAM by 0.55v.....what's going on Grimmy? Hmmm?
Two stupid posts and you still havent answered the question, Anyhow I've got stuff to do, and in case you dont believe I have a QX9650, here a screenshot of gpu-z with a graphics card that cost more than the QX9650, were not all pov retards like you Grimmy. Oh and carefull when you say "speed" there's more to it than your pea brain can comprehend, but thats for next time.
http://s509.photobucket.com/albums/s340/Vertigons/?action=view¤t=Grimmythedonkey.jpg
http://s509.photobucket.com/albums/s340/Vertigons/?action=view¤t=Grimmythedonkey.jpg
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Hey... Moron.. I mean, Vertigon (that kinda rhymes), I want to show you and everyone something from your fav fanboy website, which I did hold back on:
Qx9650 Everest Cache and Memory Benchmark
9x333
9x450
10x400
I see 1:2 ratio for all them, running them stock memory speed (900x2=1800 DDR3 / 670x2=1340 DDR3 under clocked).
Anyhoo..
If you were to run your DDR3 1333 @ advertised speed with a multiplier of 11, your OC would be: 666x11=7.326 ghz with a 1:1 ratio (666:666).
Edit:
And so on a final note, if your going to run 1:1 ratio to equal the FSB freq, your running the memory (DDR3 1333 for example or even DDR2 800 for 3ghz) slower then its advertise speed.
Qx9650 Everest Cache and Memory Benchmark
9x333
9x450
10x400
I see 1:2 ratio for all them, running them stock memory speed (900x2=1800 DDR3 / 670x2=1340 DDR3 under clocked).
Anyhoo..
If you were to run your DDR3 1333 @ advertised speed with a multiplier of 11, your OC would be: 666x11=7.326 ghz with a 1:1 ratio (666:666).
Edit:
And so on a final note, if your going to run 1:1 ratio to equal the FSB freq, your running the memory (DDR3 1333 for example or even DDR2 800 for 3ghz) slower then its advertise speed.
Vertigon said: "Some people like to opt for it because the higher end DDR2 modules eg. corsiar dominator can cost as much or more than DDR3, so it makes sense to opt for the higher bandwidth and run 1:1. If your not going to overclock and getting 2GB or more then go for it."
You'll have to forgive my ineptitude, but are you saying to run at 1:1 or to leave it at the deafault of 2:1 (or whatever it will be)? I'll be using 4GBs of it, with Vista 64bit.
From what I gather you're saying it makes little difference (I'm hoping a divider means 'not at 1:1'.)
Sorry once again for my lack of tech knowledge, I do my best learning from threads like these, but they're...uhhh.....not the easiest environment to learn in. 😉 And thank you for all your help, I appreciate it!
You'll have to forgive my ineptitude, but are you saying to run at 1:1 or to leave it at the deafault of 2:1 (or whatever it will be)? I'll be using 4GBs of it, with Vista 64bit.
From what I gather you're saying it makes little difference (I'm hoping a divider means 'not at 1:1'.)
Sorry once again for my lack of tech knowledge, I do my best learning from threads like these, but they're...uhhh.....not the easiest environment to learn in. 😉 And thank you for all your help, I appreciate it!
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Since you said you are not going to OC, what ever memory you buy should be fine.
To match a Q9550 (rated FSB 1333) all you need is DDR2 667.
The FSB is quad pumped:
1333/4=333
DDR2 667
667/2 (double rated)=333
So your FSB 333 and then your Dram Freq 333 is 1:1 ratio.
If you have a MB that only supports DDR3 on the other hand, if you want to run it at a 1:1 ratio, you will need to adjust it, or rather slow it down to match the CPU bus.
Only other thing I can tell you is, most people will favor 1:1 ratio since there will be no latency problems, especially when you OC the system.
Edit:
Forgot to mention, 1:2 isn't bad, you just have some latency. But the only way you can tell, is to use a memory benchmark test to figure out the amount of performance. On the other hand, general use without even knowing, you really couldn't tell the difference.
To match a Q9550 (rated FSB 1333) all you need is DDR2 667.
The FSB is quad pumped:
1333/4=333
DDR2 667
667/2 (double rated)=333
So your FSB 333 and then your Dram Freq 333 is 1:1 ratio.
If you have a MB that only supports DDR3 on the other hand, if you want to run it at a 1:1 ratio, you will need to adjust it, or rather slow it down to match the CPU bus.
Only other thing I can tell you is, most people will favor 1:1 ratio since there will be no latency problems, especially when you OC the system.
Edit:
Forgot to mention, 1:2 isn't bad, you just have some latency. But the only way you can tell, is to use a memory benchmark test to figure out the amount of performance. On the other hand, general use without even knowing, you really couldn't tell the difference.
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^Yea thunderman just does hit and runs just like concrum. But this is getting out of control and I have never seen Grimmy this fired up about anything.........
"From what I gather you're saying it makes little difference (I'm hoping a divider means 'not at 1:1'.) "--------yep thats right, if you look in your bios settings you will see dividers labelled like :2.00b 4.00B etc Don't listen to grimmy he is a 100% retard. If you read other posts here people actually challenge his simplest of statements, he's like an annoying vegetable people like to laugh at. He's been trying to tell us were all stupid regarding the 1:1 issue but in his last post he basically contradicts his own standpoint:
"Only other thing I can tell you is, most people will favor 1:1 ratio since there will be no latency problems, especially when you OC the system."
I think after years of electro-shock therapy, it kind of takes him a while to grasp whats going on. Next time I will wait until 3 pages of a debate has gone by to add my bit, unless of course there are some giggles to be had!! So you can get whatever RAM you want because with 4GB on board you have a reasonable buffer, but some tasks will 100% load the modules, at this point bandwidth makes a difference. I don't think DDR3 is too expensive at the Q9550 level but hey its up to you. Back to assclown:
Grimmy you STILL haven't answered outstanding questions from previous posts, which one is:
"Then being the donkey you are, you actually say this "666mhz is an aweful long ways from 450mhz." , so asked then why AnandTech had to overvolt its DDR3 PC3-14400, a high bandwidth module on both the 400Mhz and 450Mhz benches, you can't even reply, because your too stupid to, maybe your brain began to overheat looping around in circles trying to resolve the illogic bwahahahahaha"
Oh and you still haven't admitted there is an industry convention and that alot of people are enquiring about running their RAM 1:1. Show some dignity please. An admission will go something like this grimmy:
"Sorry Vertigon, I was wrong, I now acknowledge what you've been speaking about for 3 pages is fact and I don't know why anandtech had to overvolt the high bandwidth memory module because I don't really understand how RAM works but I can divide any number in half....look I even own a $2 calculator. Also sorry for going off on so many tangents, its what I do when people are about to expose me for the simpleton I am, I know this thread is about RAM running at 1:1 but hey, the week of mind have to hide somehow"
In basic terms grimmy you will have to admit to the facts otherwise provide a proven arguement to the contrary, which you haven't been able to do for 3 pages. I don't enjoy bitch slapping you from wall to wall in this debate (ok I do) but seriously stop going off on tangents, answer the questions or admit your wrong.
EVERYONE KNOWS- YOU BEEN OWNED
"Only other thing I can tell you is, most people will favor 1:1 ratio since there will be no latency problems, especially when you OC the system."
I think after years of electro-shock therapy, it kind of takes him a while to grasp whats going on. Next time I will wait until 3 pages of a debate has gone by to add my bit, unless of course there are some giggles to be had!! So you can get whatever RAM you want because with 4GB on board you have a reasonable buffer, but some tasks will 100% load the modules, at this point bandwidth makes a difference. I don't think DDR3 is too expensive at the Q9550 level but hey its up to you. Back to assclown:
Grimmy you STILL haven't answered outstanding questions from previous posts, which one is:
"Then being the donkey you are, you actually say this "666mhz is an aweful long ways from 450mhz." , so asked then why AnandTech had to overvolt its DDR3 PC3-14400, a high bandwidth module on both the 400Mhz and 450Mhz benches, you can't even reply, because your too stupid to, maybe your brain began to overheat looping around in circles trying to resolve the illogic bwahahahahaha"
Oh and you still haven't admitted there is an industry convention and that alot of people are enquiring about running their RAM 1:1. Show some dignity please. An admission will go something like this grimmy:
"Sorry Vertigon, I was wrong, I now acknowledge what you've been speaking about for 3 pages is fact and I don't know why anandtech had to overvolt the high bandwidth memory module because I don't really understand how RAM works but I can divide any number in half....look I even own a $2 calculator. Also sorry for going off on so many tangents, its what I do when people are about to expose me for the simpleton I am, I know this thread is about RAM running at 1:1 but hey, the week of mind have to hide somehow"
In basic terms grimmy you will have to admit to the facts otherwise provide a proven arguement to the contrary, which you haven't been able to do for 3 pages. I don't enjoy bitch slapping you from wall to wall in this debate (ok I do) but seriously stop going off on tangents, answer the questions or admit your wrong.
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Okay... I'll answer this one. The REASON why they had to OVERVOLT DDR3 PC3-14400, is because the memory is fast, and when you try to speed up the FSB (the CPU side) the signal gets lost. Basically, people even do that with DDR2 800 memory like myself. Dip ****.
Also... if you could comprehend, a 1:1 ratio mean both sides are equal. Your RAM is 667 speed, while the CPU side is 333mhz. You said you OC to 380mhz, as well as that you could go 450mhz, which is still far from even 600mhz you twit.
You didn't eve look at the stupid pic's by the same fricken article I post above.
You want me to apologizes? I'll apologizes to everyone else whos thinks this was a waste of time trying to explain to you , even with PICTURES, that I've FAILED to convince you the errors of your way.
Other then that... please... just.. STFU!! **** Moron.
Lol oh grimmy you really are a vegetable. 2 days ago on page 2 (17-8-2008) at 3:22pm I tried to tell you there was an industry convention for cpu/ram ratios at 1:1 but because your too stupid you decided to simply argue rather than investigate:
Vertigon wrote :
Oh I know what I'm talking about, not that this issue takes any brain power to absorb, but I guess you must have a little to have a chance. Why it's so perplexing is strange and for those that don't believe there is an industry convention type in "1:1 cpu ram ratio" to google search and you'll see plenty of posts regarding this term.
Then again if your ego is too big for reality I suppose you could live in denial, maybe denial comes easier when you've been sitting in front of a pov pack computer for all your life.
grimmy wrote:
No.. I don't believe you. Sorry. And I think your in denial that your ego is too big for you to handle since you can't stop posting, so you can keep insulting me or anyone else who may disagree with you.
So you didn't believe me then but for some reason now you've accepted their is enquiry and convention for RAM/cpu ratio's at 1:1. You can't even admit it when your wrong, you sad sack of smelly cow dung.
Because it was obvious that your thick and arguementative I asked you why anadtech would need to overvolt it's already quick OCZ DDR3 PC3-14400 (DDR3-1800) Platinum Edition, this was at 1am on the 18th.
You couldn't answer the question right away because your basically a fraud and an idiot. After trying to avoid the question countless times and being wrong about industry convention you finally had to make a statement otherwise looking like an even bigger jackass than what you already are. This was at 5:50am on the 19th. So with almost 30 hours to think, research etc you did nothing. Yep NOTHING!!!
grimmys dumbass answer:
"The REASON why they had to OVERVOLT DDR3 PC3-14400, is because the memory is fast, and when you try to speed up the FSB (the CPU side) the signal gets lost. Basically, people even do that with DDR2 800 memory like myself."
So anandtech up their FSB to 400Mhz, overvolt the ram to get it stable and your saying the RAM is fast and therefore the signal gets lost?????????? Where does it go exactly grimmy? lol. Also doesn't this contradict what you said on page 2:
"Tell me Vertigon, how do ya get a ratio of 1:1 when your running your ram slower, and why you think you have no headroom? 666mhz is an aweful long ways from 450mhz."
So according to YOUR logic there is an even bigger gap in this test with the OCZ DDR3 1800Mhz RAM and only a 400Mhz FSB. Tell me how sending more current through a very fast memory module (which can only make it faster) can help recover a lost signal????? So if your sending more current through fast RAM to find a signal, because like you said "The REASON why they had to OVERVOLT DDR3 PC3-14400, is because the memory is fast" why are you overvolting your DDR2 800, which doesn't even run at half the speed of the OCZ anandtech used?
Is your head made of rat shyte or something? Are you that incredibly stupid to think overvolting something that you already claim is too fast is suppose to find a lost signal???? You don't even understand the basics you stupid assclown.
Vertigon wrote :
Oh I know what I'm talking about, not that this issue takes any brain power to absorb, but I guess you must have a little to have a chance. Why it's so perplexing is strange and for those that don't believe there is an industry convention type in "1:1 cpu ram ratio" to google search and you'll see plenty of posts regarding this term.
Then again if your ego is too big for reality I suppose you could live in denial, maybe denial comes easier when you've been sitting in front of a pov pack computer for all your life.
grimmy wrote:
No.. I don't believe you. Sorry. And I think your in denial that your ego is too big for you to handle since you can't stop posting, so you can keep insulting me or anyone else who may disagree with you.
So you didn't believe me then but for some reason now you've accepted their is enquiry and convention for RAM/cpu ratio's at 1:1. You can't even admit it when your wrong, you sad sack of smelly cow dung.
Because it was obvious that your thick and arguementative I asked you why anadtech would need to overvolt it's already quick OCZ DDR3 PC3-14400 (DDR3-1800) Platinum Edition, this was at 1am on the 18th.
You couldn't answer the question right away because your basically a fraud and an idiot. After trying to avoid the question countless times and being wrong about industry convention you finally had to make a statement otherwise looking like an even bigger jackass than what you already are. This was at 5:50am on the 19th. So with almost 30 hours to think, research etc you did nothing. Yep NOTHING!!!
grimmys dumbass answer:
"The REASON why they had to OVERVOLT DDR3 PC3-14400, is because the memory is fast, and when you try to speed up the FSB (the CPU side) the signal gets lost. Basically, people even do that with DDR2 800 memory like myself."
So anandtech up their FSB to 400Mhz, overvolt the ram to get it stable and your saying the RAM is fast and therefore the signal gets lost?????????? Where does it go exactly grimmy? lol. Also doesn't this contradict what you said on page 2:
"Tell me Vertigon, how do ya get a ratio of 1:1 when your running your ram slower, and why you think you have no headroom? 666mhz is an aweful long ways from 450mhz."
So according to YOUR logic there is an even bigger gap in this test with the OCZ DDR3 1800Mhz RAM and only a 400Mhz FSB. Tell me how sending more current through a very fast memory module (which can only make it faster) can help recover a lost signal????? So if your sending more current through fast RAM to find a signal, because like you said "The REASON why they had to OVERVOLT DDR3 PC3-14400, is because the memory is fast" why are you overvolting your DDR2 800, which doesn't even run at half the speed of the OCZ anandtech used?
Is your head made of rat shyte or something? Are you that incredibly stupid to think overvolting something that you already claim is too fast is suppose to find a lost signal???? You don't even understand the basics you stupid assclown.
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Unfucking believable.
You've convinced me that you really don't understand anything, I've said, but yet try to disagree with it as much as possible.
Let me ask you a question.
Why hasn't anyone... I mean, ANYONE support or take side in what you say? Because of all this crap you just typed up. I don't think people here, have a reading comprehension problem like you, unless you go by another handle.
And if you were to ask me the same question? Why hasn't any take side of what I've said?
Its because your a PHUCKING MORON, and they don't want to deal with the crap that I'm taking from you. Pretty much everyone who as observed this thread has ask me to give it up. I feel as though they know I'm right, but I just want to be sure you have some kind of brain, but so far, you have just about convinced me.. that you really need some kind of professional help.
If you STFU... I will do the same. This thread has been pretty much ruin beyond belief.
Your arguments are pointless to even acknowledge anymore.
I apologize to the OP for even trying to help this... individual (Vertigon) and hope that some of this is relevant to help the OP understand 1:1 ratio, as well as memory speed.
Like I said in a previous post you run and hide when your faced with a real question"
"........Also sorry for going off on so many tangents, its what I do when people are about to expose me for the simpleton I am, I know this thread is about RAM running at 1:1 but hey, the week of mind have to hide somehow"......your SOOO transparent....don't you think people know your hiding?
Why make a big fuss and have a tantrum, I am simply asking about this "lost signal" business you dribbled about in your last post. Looks like I am going to have to repeat the question yet AGAIN!!!!..........:
"So AnandTech up their FSB to 400Mhz, overvolt the ram to get it stable and your saying the RAM is fast and therefore the signal gets lost?????????? Where does it go exactly grimmy?
So according to YOUR logic there is an even bigger gap in this test with the OCZ DDR3 1800Mhz RAM and only a 400Mhz FSB. Tell me how sending more current through a very fast memory module (which can only make it faster) can help recover a lost signal????? "
Don't have one of your stupid pretentious tantrums, just answer the question FOR THE 500TH BLOODY TIME!!!!!!
"........Also sorry for going off on so many tangents, its what I do when people are about to expose me for the simpleton I am, I know this thread is about RAM running at 1:1 but hey, the week of mind have to hide somehow"......your SOOO transparent....don't you think people know your hiding?
Why make a big fuss and have a tantrum, I am simply asking about this "lost signal" business you dribbled about in your last post. Looks like I am going to have to repeat the question yet AGAIN!!!!..........:
"So AnandTech up their FSB to 400Mhz, overvolt the ram to get it stable and your saying the RAM is fast and therefore the signal gets lost?????????? Where does it go exactly grimmy?
So according to YOUR logic there is an even bigger gap in this test with the OCZ DDR3 1800Mhz RAM and only a 400Mhz FSB. Tell me how sending more current through a very fast memory module (which can only make it faster) can help recover a lost signal????? "
Don't have one of your stupid pretentious tantrums, just answer the question FOR THE 500TH BLOODY TIME!!!!!!
What are you talking about, you are wrong, I do have a QX9650 and an FX3700, and it is clocked past 4ghz but these issues date back from page 1 and 2. Don't ask people to prove irrelevant crap just because you've been exposed as a retard. Where is this stupid lost signal of yours? Be back tomorrow, thats at least 12 hours of research you've got, mule.
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