1024x768, 33yr old man looking for some QUALITY ADVISE!!HELP

[ak47is1337]

No, you move up the ladder for what you get with more money. It's just that simple.

 

[radeonninjaxt]

Giving them 3 points for first, 2 for second and 1 for third, the X850XT and X1800GTO tie for first with 16 points and the 7600GT brings up the rear with 11 points. So again, "7600gt > x1800gto > X850 isn't the case
Understand?":tongue:

LMAO! way to go man 8) This kid needs to be put in his place. :lol: I was no where near that dumb at his age.

 

[radeonninjaxt]

No, you move up the ladder for what you get with more money. It's just that simple.

Oh ok then, well I guess thats why my X1900XT which I paid $434.00 plays most games better and faster than my friends 7900GTX which he paid $500+ for :roll: :roll: :roll:

Once again that statement is retarded, Just like you.

 

[fainis]

i agree with x1800>x850xt........but 7600gt no way man..the topic was billion times discussed and there is no way....... x1800xt is better ...x1800gto should be but the practice shows wrong.....7600gt is out of question..it`s a good card but when it cames to newer games it`s 128 bit interface and 12 pixel pipes shows allot

here is the proof

good luck my friend

 

[radeonninjaxt]

i agree with x1800>x850xt........but 7600gt no way man..the topic was billion times discussed and there is no way....... x1800xt is better ...x1800gto should be but the practice shows wrong.....7600gt is out of question..it`s a good card but when it cames to newer games it`s 128 bit interface and 12 pixel pipes shows allot

here is the proof

good luck my friend

Oblivion is a good title too compare with as well because of the Heavy amounts of shaders it uses, that is the way the games of the Future are going anyway.

Nvidiot Fanboy its time to pack your bags and leave this forum. Go home and cry to momma now! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[FITCamaro]

i hope when im 33 i have a real life...

The voice of ignorance. No matter what age you are you can play games. I've met people who are 16 and play games. I've met people who are in their 70s and play games. As long as playing games isn't ALL you do theres nothing wrong with it.

I'm 23 and will be a gamer for life. At least until I can't see anymore and who knows by then we might be able to beam the game directly into our brain.

 

[pauldh]

I couldn't leave those comments be and responded immediately without reading on and seeing you already gave him a proper lickin'.

The 7600GT is a good card for the money, but IMO no where near what he is claiming. And the 6800GT over X850XT, that's just hilarious.

 

[fainis]

The 7600gt is more powerful than the x1800gto, I can prove that if you like. Also, it is more powerful than a 6800gt which is more powerful than an X850. The x1800xt blows them all away though, since it's more expensive.

lol .... sorry man nothing personal..but x850xt blows a 6800ultra ...even a sli...
the chart is x1800gto close to x850xt (the later is better in many games)

anyone of it blows a 7600gt.....
7600gt is comparable and slowly better than a x1600xt

 

[fainis]

i agree my friend...that was the ideea ...isn`t oblivion the strongest game ever....even in open gl games like quake 4 or doom 3 x850xt blows many....
it`s a king........

 

[pauldh]

You know, I used to feel X850XT>6800U also. I have both a X800XTpe and 6800U OC, and always felt the ATI was better at the games that matter to me.

But now I think they are pretty equal. Recent reviews have the 6800U often pulling strong. Anyway, The 6800U OC (425/1100) does well in Digit-lifes charts I linked to above, and easily beats out the 7600GT. In those charts it competes well with the X850XT, although the 6800GT is clearly bringing up the rear.

 

[radeonninjaxt]

He has not posted in a while so I guess he went home to momma for some milk 😛 either that or he is diggin ferociously through the internet looking for articles too prove us wrong! LOL :lol:

 

[radeonninjaxt]

You know, I used to feel X850XT>6800U also. I have both a X800XTpe and 6800U OC, and always felt the ATI was better at the games that matter to me.

But now I think they are pretty equal. Recent reviews have the 6800U often pulling strong. Anyway, The 6800U OC (425/1100) does well in Digit-lifes charts I linked to above, and easily beats out the 7600GT. In those charts it competes well with the X850XT, although the 6800GT is clearly bringing up the rear.

Yeah but dont forget you can also overclock that X850XT up too and past XT PE speeds

 

[pauldh]

And as Cleeve and I both know, the 6800U has almost no headroom on the core. My BFG is 425/1100 out of the box as opposed to 400/1100. Max OC is only 435/1210.

 

[cleeve]

The 7600gt is more powerful than the x1800gto, I can prove that if you like.

That is not true. I invite you to prove otherwise.

I'm not saying the 7600 GT is bad, but 'more powerful' than the X1800 GTO?

Stock they trade blows at best, and overclocked the X1800 GTO leaves the 7600 GT way behind...

 

[fainis]

You know, I used to feel X850XT>6800U also. I have both a X800XTpe and 6800U OC, and always felt the ATI was better at the games that matter to me.

But now I think they are pretty equal. Recent reviews have the 6800U often pulling strong. Anyway, The 6800U OC (425/1100) does well in Digit-lifes charts I linked to above, and easily beats out the 7600GT. In those charts it competes well with the X850XT, although the 6800GT is clearly bringing up the rear.

Yeah but dont forget you can also overclock that X850XT up too and past XT PE speeds

that ati card can be extremelly easy to oc......xt can go as high as 560 mhz or even higher ..tried that my self and is rock stable......but the performance gain is not that great..i guess it`s from game to game.....i think you can get higher performance if you mod the system memory......play with the timings........for example i play f.e.a.r at home with my rig (all detail max aa4x af 16x).....i can see great improvement if i clock the memory from 44412 to 4339 from bios..these are the memory timings.......on ddr2 geil

good luck everybody

the chart still remains x850xt slowly better than x1800gto....7600gt is out of question

 

[fainis]

i recomend also to follow your itch my friend.......x850xt shows incredible performance expecially when dealling with aa and af filters ........

 

[BigBuckinChicken]

I just got a PNY 7800GS (agp) for myself last week. I am also (irrelevently) 33, so i thought your post was pretty funny. The delima you face is similar to the one I faced, and I decided not to upgrade to PCIE until the market stablizes a bit and the new chips are out. Therefore I bought the 7800GS because it was one of the best AGP cards available. Some would say the price for it is unreasonable, but I could afford it at the moment, and I do plan on keeping this PC as a spare gaming rig even after I build my new one.

This post is mostly useless, as I only play WoW (like a junkie) and cant really comment on the others that you play. As far as first person shooters, Tribes Vengeance is the only "new" one I have played in a while, and thats a year or more old i think, but the new card beats the crap out of my 9600SE Gold Edition in those games.

So the point is, I waited until I couldnt wait any longer, then bought the best one that I could afford. This strategy is reccommended many times on this forum, thus it became ingrained. Although the enthusiests may laugh at my "waste of money", I am capable of wasting more than a mere couple hundred just by going out and drinking one single night. So in essence, this saves me money by keeping me plugged into my pc. At this rate I can afford a new rig by mid summer

 

[chocobocorey]

i hope when im 33 i have a real life...

The voice of ignorance. No matter what age you are you can play games. I've met people who are 16 and play games. I've met people who are in their 70s and play games. As long as playing games isn't ALL you do theres nothing wrong with it.

I'm 23 and will be a gamer for life. At least until I can't see anymore and who knows by then we might be able to beam the game directly into our brain.

i didnt post telling the 33 yr old OP that hes too old to play games. i plan on playing games till im 50. read the OPs first post -- i was referring to his overuse of exclamation points and overall writing style of an overexcited illiterate.
and to that guy who was bragging about having sex with his hot wife, no one cares. this is a computer forum so please refrain from your awesome bragging rights.

 

[aceprowler]

This is why I pacifically asked not to tell me about a 7600gt. I just knew some moron would tell me how great it is!! Yeah, if you only have $130 bucks or don’t have an extra power cord! I want my system to look mean too. I have to impress my women and myself and a puny little card isn’t going to do that. So please, STOP flaming about a 7600gt and telling your self that it blows away an x1800 series or the 6800gt is better, noobs!!

33yrs old, and I still love my video games. Nothing will ever take that away from me. Yet it is summer time as well, and I’ll be outside playing sports or taken up the sun at the beach more then in the home.

That is another factor. I could see spending $300 + on a video card if it was closer to winter. Come on. I spend $225 on an eVGA 6800gs. I just got that money back today, and going to be making my selection tomorrow. May even be tonight?

So keep me updated with your thoughts.

BTW a 7800gs is a nice option for an agp user. With me that will change though with this purchase. Yes, I know the difference between PCI and PCI-e. I want to try this new technology. An x1800gto is currently $239 without a mail in rebate. An x1800xt is $279, for $50 bucks I think that would be a step you have to take. Well, then look at the x1800xt 512 mg for $299.

But then again, like I have stated before, $164 for a retail x850xt then looks better to me again, $80 bucks for mobo. An higher card would be a $380 + to upgrade after a pci-e board purchase.

I’m still leaning toward the x850xt or PE for an upgrade. Many of you have talked about it, and it is a great card, especially for the price.

 

[radeonninjaxt]

You know, I used to feel X850XT>6800U also. I have both a X800XTpe and 6800U OC, and always felt the ATI was better at the games that matter to me.

But now I think they are pretty equal. Recent reviews have the 6800U often pulling strong. Anyway, The 6800U OC (425/1100) does well in Digit-lifes charts I linked to above, and easily beats out the 7600GT. In those charts it competes well with the X850XT, although the 6800GT is clearly bringing up the rear.

Yeah but dont forget you can also overclock that X850XT up too and past XT PE speeds

that ati card can be extremelly easy to oc......xt can go as high as 560 mhz or even higher ..tried that my self and is rock stable......but the performance gain is not that great..i guess it`s from game to game.....i think you can get higher performance if you mod the system memory......play with the timings........for example i play f.e.a.r at home with my rig (all detail max aa4x af 16x).....i can see great improvement if i clock the memory from 44412 to 4339 from bios..these are the memory timings.......on ddr2 geil

good luck everybody

the chart still remains x850xt slowly better than x1800gto....7600gt is out of question

With the Artic Silencer fan I was able to get my friends X850XT to 600mhz core and 1230mhz memory. After playing games for hours the card stayed stable with good temps.

 

[shabodah]

You're all still crazy. I am happy to have owned both ATI and Nvidia cards and loved them both. All the controversy over SM2.0 vs. 3.0 is silly. Bloom vs HDR is another topic entirely. Personally I have used both HDR and bloom settings and prefer HDR. No card does HDR better than the x1900xtx, but the lesser ATI cards don't do so well with it. Heck the x800 series isn't capable of it.

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/gtgto/index.htm

I guess the moral of my rank here is, if you don't want a nvidia card, it IS worth the money to grab a x1900xt, as previously stated Vista and Dx10 are looking to go hand-in-hand, and EVERYTHING else about Vista DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.

 

[jaguarskx]

The only bad thing about the X850XT is that it doesn't support HDR. To some HDR matters to others it doesn't as long as the card gives good grahpics and good performance.

Whatever card you end up going with just make sure it will last you at least two years, you want to get your money's worth. Considering that you game at 1024x768 resolution, that really shouldn't be a problem. Getting a X1800XT or 7900GT is an overkill for that resolution, but they can probably last up to 4 years and still provide decent/good performance at that resolution. By then DirectX 11 will likely be a hot topic.

 

[radeonninjaxt]

The only bad thing about the X850XT is that it doesn't support HDR. To some HDR matters to others it doesn't as long as the card gives good grahpics and good performance.

Whatever card you end up going with just make sure it will last you at least two years, you want to get your money's worth. Considering that you game at 1024x768 resolution, that really shouldn't be a problem. Getting a X1800XT or 7900GT is an overkill for that resolution, but they can probably last up to 4 years and still provide decent/good performance at that resolution. By then DirectX 11 will likely be a hot topic.

Some how Half Life 2 and Lost Coast manage to support HDR with the X800 series. Im still not sure how they did it though.

 

[TheMaster]

Don't buy the XT PE if its a significant difference in price.
You can overclock the regular past PE speeds with a stock cooler, check my sig.
Even a total n00b could do it.

 

[aceprowler]

The only bad thing about the X850XT is that it doesn't support HDR. To some HDR matters to others it doesn't as long as the card gives good grahpics and good performance.

Whatever card you end up going with just make sure it will last you at least two years, you want to get your money's worth. Considering that you game at 1024x768 resolution, that really shouldn't be a problem. Getting a X1800XT or 7900GT is an overkill for that resolution, but they can probably last up to 4 years and still provide decent/good performance at that resolution. By then DirectX 11 will likely be a hot topic.

Good point, and just like the guy said before you. HDR really makes a difference in the look and feel of the game though?

See these are the objections I wanted to see. I did not know about this. Now I do, and will have to reconsider. Please keep em coming. I would much rather invest in a card that will last then a card as the x850xt that is almost dead now. But at the start of this post, I did not know this.

Get me right, I make good money. I don't like to blow money, and to me, an x1800xt or 7900gt was doing just that and in the benchmarks that I had seen, the x850xt was close in most stages of the game.

Thanks guys!! Keep it coming!!