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My msi 1070 armor died yesterday so I'm looking for a new gpu. I was going to buy the same card but I noticed a 2070 for 20$ more than the 1070.

My specs are a i5 2500k at 4ghz, 12gb ram and I play at 1080p.

Should I get the 1070 or 2070? Would there be a big bottleneck with the 2070?
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For $20 more get the 2070.

As for any potential bottleneck just utilize Nvidia DSR (in the Nvidia Control Panel). What this does is render the game at a higher resolution then scale it back to your native res. This will utilize the GPU more and make your games look better then some AA options.

Did you find out why your 1070 died? Hopefully it's not a PSU issue as your don't want to ruin this 2070.
 
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Assuming that your monitor has a 60Hz refresh rate, then even the 1070 is overkill.

An RX 590 or GTX 1660 would be ideal. The RX 590 has the disadvantage of being power hungry, but the advantage of being generally less expensive.

I don't know your location, but in the US, both are significantly less than the 1070 or 2070.
 
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WildCard999 said:
For $20 more get the 2070.

As for any potential bottleneck just utilize Nvidia DSR (in the Nvidia Control Panel). What this does is render the game at a higher resolution then scale it back to your native res. This will utilize the GPU more and make your games look better then some AA options.

Did you find out why your 1070 died? Hopefully it's not a PSU issue as your don't want to ruin this 2070.
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No I didn't nt. Not sure exactly how to test it. This will 4th gpu in about 10 years. I've always had the same psu (corsair gs600). The last gpu was a 670 that died after around 3 years of use. Fans spins but no image the 1070 doesn't have image and fans don't spin.

What psu would you recommend this days?
 
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No I didn't nt. Not sure exactly how to test it. This will 4th gpu in about 10 years. I've always had the same psu (corsair gs600). The last gpu was a 670 that died after around 3 years of use. Fans spins but no image the 1070 doesn't have image and fans don't spin.
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If the PSU if from the original build then I'd replace it and also get a better quality unit. For the price of a 2070 you should be able to get a good unit as well as the 1660 ti or something close.
 
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If the PSU if from the original build then I'd replace it and also get a better quality unit. For the price of a 2070 you should be able to get a good unit as well as the 1660 ti or something close.
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Are the 1660ti as good as 1070. I've seen a few comparisons and they show lower performance. I was trying not to downgrade from a 1070
 
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I'd say the 1660Ti has a slight edge over the 1070 overall.

If your monitor maxes out at 60Hz, and you have no intention of changing it anytime soon, then the 2070 is throwing away money you don't need to spend, and has performance potential that you can't use.

Go with a 1660Ti - or even a 1660 would give you the performance you need at 1920x1080 for 60Hz/60fps. The Ti version just gives you some extra headroom for future upgrades.

I'd suggest:
PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card (€304.90 @ Globaldata)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€86.90 @ Globaldata)
Total: €391.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-09 20:46 CEST+0200

Though for €9 more, you can get that Seasonic FOCUS at 650W. Not necessary with what you have, but good if you ever upgrade to a higher resolution/refresh monitor and then move on to a top-tier video card to support it.
 
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As a side question, what exactly is your RAM configuration?

I notice you have 12GB, is that a single 4GB stick and a single 8GB stick? If so, then it's likely your system is running in single-channel mode.

Getting a matched pair of RAM as a kit would probably give you a bit of performance improvement as well, since then it would run in dual-channel mode.
 
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The 1660TI is tempting due to being cheap and good. The 2070 is more expensive but would be better when i upgrade my specs and monitor in the future.

Both setups you showed seem good and both doable, now i just need to decide if i want to save more money now or in the future.
 
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If your going to be upgrading in the near future I wouldn't bother replacing the memory.

If getting the 1660 instead of the 2070 allows you to upgrade sooner then it may be something to consider.

That being said the 2500K, especially when overclocked, has good performance per core so you may be able to hold off for a bit depending on the games your playing.
 
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A big bottleneck. Man your cpu's old. I mean, overclocking can help hold off some bottlenecks but honestly I'd just at that point get an new cpu like a ryzen 5 3600 or i7 9700k although you'd have to buy a new motherboard.


pssssst, get the ryzen 5 3600. cheaper and comes with a kickass cooler
 
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Been thinking and i might be able to upgrade some stuff. Do to u think this would be fine? I already have the Cooler and case but I decided to include it to make sure it's fine. The prices are not correct as I don't know how to change prices according to country and I just can't stand using my old slow phone for this

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $349.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler | $129.98 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX Z370-G GAMING (WI-FI AC) Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard |-
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $106.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card | $549.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $61.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1223.93
| Mail-in rebates | -$25.00
| Total | $1198.93
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-13 09:24 EDT-0400 |
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-13 09:23 EDT-0400
 
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kerozen said:
@WildCard999

Been thinking and i might be able to upgrade some stuff. Do to u think this would be fine? I already have the Cooler and case but I decided to include it to make sure it's fine. The prices are not correct as I don't know how to change prices according to country and I just can't stand using my old slow phone for this

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $349.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler | $129.98 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX Z370-G GAMING (WI-FI AC) Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard |-
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $106.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card | $549.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $61.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1223.93
| Mail-in rebates | -$25.00
| Total | $1198.93
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-13 09:24 EDT-0400 |
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-13 09:23 EDT-0400
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Yeah, if I'd take the Ryzen 5 3600 - because it's cheaper and outperforms in tasks and tie to tie in terms of gaming, with i7 9700k and probably better than 8700k.
 
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I will be honest, I've not been up to date with the new hardware. I know AMD now has some pretty good cpus that are cheap but n I have no idea what are the good ones or the bad ones. I've always been a Intel and Nvidia guy. What would be a good 100 150$ motherboard for the r5 3600. Are aftermarket coolers like my cryorig h7 compatible with amd boards? My case is a cooler master elite 430 so I need a micro atx board. My current board is a p8p67 m and it has around 6cm of spare space between the board and the psu
 
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Ok so i have 2 builds now. 1 Amd and 1 Intel. The AMD one seems to be equal or better than the Intel one and its cheaper. I never had AMD CPUs and Motherboards before and don't know if its the same as Intel so im afraid i will mess something up. Also will need a new cooler.

The PSU i choose this one for being a bit cheaper but i will most likely use the Seasonic Focus 550w gold


AMD

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€218.90 @ Globaldata)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (€182.90 @ Globaldata)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€87.20 @ Globaldata)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB DUAL OC Video Card (€469.90 @ Globaldata)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case (€71.90 @ Globaldata)
Power Supply: *Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€79.90 @ Globaldata)
Total: €1110.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-14 15:27 CEST+0200

Intel

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€379.00 @ Globaldata)
Motherboard: *MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€129.90 @ Globaldata)
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€74.90 @ Globaldata)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB DUAL OC Video Card (€469.90 @ Globaldata)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case (€71.90 @ Globaldata)
Power Supply: *Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€79.90 @ Globaldata)
Total: €1205.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-14 15:27 CEST+0200
 
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updating the Bios is what im mostly afraid of messing up. originally i had AsRock B450 Pro 4 but read i needed to update the bios to support the R5.

From what ive read and seen im leaning more towards the amd setup
 
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