1900$ build from ironside

[davoo23]

Hey guys i need help because i finally have the money and i feel like Ironside is the best place to get my computer built, but if you have a better website suggestion please let me know!

So, i need a computer that's good for Video editing/Music editing, Gaming ofc, regular internet stuff and i'll be on 24" single monitor doing 1920 x 1080.

 

[tiny voices]

DO NOT get that 1000w PSU. Its junk. They are probably recommending it because they know it makes no more than 750w. Its crap. When it fails, it WILL take your system out with it.

Buying a computer and not knowing the make of the PSU is one of the most blatantly uneducated and ignorant moves you could make.

The PSU is easily the most important component of your computer.

Its like saying "I know good brake pads cost around $100, but I'll be good with these $15 ones. They work the same right? This warranty will totally help once I wrap the car around a tree at 70mph"

 

[tiny voices]

So i'm going to order this today!

Series
Intel Core i7 3770K
Case - Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green (Mid Tower)
Custom Airbrush Logos & Emblems - None
Custom Airbrushed Gamertags - None
Additional Case Fans - 2 x 120mm Red LED Cooler Master Sickleflow High Performance Fans
Internal Lighting - Dual 12" Red Cold Cathode Lighting
Intel Processor - [Overclockable] Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz, 3.9GHz Turbo Boost (Quad Core)
CPU Cooling - Asetek 570LC High Performance Liquid Cooling
PC Liquid Coolant - None
Liquid Cooling Tubing Color - Clear / None
Kink Coils - None
Intel Motherboard - [x-fire, SLI] ASRock Z77 Extreme4 [VGA DVI HDMI] SATA 6Gb/s USB3 {4 DDR3 Slots}
Overclocking Processor - [FREE] Overclock Processor up to 10%
Overclock Protection Warranty - None
Overclocking Graphics Card - Stock Speed
Memory - 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz
Memory Cooling - None
Primary Hard Drive - Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB SSD
Hard Drive Cooling - None
Secondary Hard Drive - 2TB 7200 RPM
Secondary Hard Drive Cooling - None
1st Optical Drive - DVD Writer
2nd Optical Drive - None
Graphics Card - EVGA GTX 670 2GB FTW Edition (Min. 650 Watt Power Supply)
Liquid Cool Graphics Card - None
[SLI / X-fire] Second Video Card - None
[SLI / X-fire] Liquid Cool Graphics card - None
[3-way SLI / X-fire] Third Graphics Card - None
[3-Way SLI / X-fire] Liquid Cool Graphics Card - None
Power Supply - Standard 1000 Watt
Operating System - Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit
Networking - Standard Onboard Ethernet
Fan Controller - None
Media Card Readers - All-in-one Card Reader
Sound Card - Integrated HD Audio
PC Games - None
TV Tuners - None
Office Software - None
Antivirus Software - None
Monitor - None
Second Monitor - None
Mouse - None
Keyboard - None
Speakers & Headsets - None
Packaging - [FREE] Advanced Packaging System - Custom foam to protect and secure internal components from shipping abuse
Wiring - [FREE] Professional Wiring - Cables will be organized to achieve maximum airflow
Technical Support - Life-time U.S. based technical support and customer service by our own in-house technicians
Rush Service - [Standard] Shipped Out in 2 - 10 Business Days
Video Demonstration - None
Warranty - Standard 3 Years Parts and 3 Years Labor

Standard PSU:Kingwin/CM/ Rosewil

Do you guys think i should change anything?

1967 total

That PSU is not going to be a quality unit. A buddy of mine bought a 850w PSU from Coolmax and when it failed they gladly replaced the PSU.....not the motherboard and graphics card which also were fried. A good PSU will not ruin your system if it fails and it will have a MUCH lower fail rate.

No one said it was going to be cool max lol, i don't even know what it's going to be, but they only use quality PSU's

CM = standard PSU. Coolermaster is one of the worst. They fake their 80+ certifications and have AWFUL failure rates. Look it up.

Kingwing has one line of PSU's which are good. They are the most expensive ones. The rest are junk.

Rosewill are the same way. They make one high quality line of PSUs and some half decent stuff that most people stay away from.

You bet, you won't be getting one of the quality units. 1000w for $100 is just not real. It will be junk. I'm sorry

If these brands were Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, XFX, we would be having a different discussion.

 

[TheBigTroll]

the word standard pretty much gives off that its a generic psu with generic prebuilt quality: crap

 

[davoo23]

That PSU is not going to be a quality unit. A buddy of mine bought a 850w PSU from Coolmax and when it failed they gladly replaced the PSU.....not the motherboard and graphics card which also were fried. A good PSU will not ruin your system if it fails and it will have a MUCH lower fail rate.

the word standard pretty much gives off that its a generic psu with generic prebuilt quality: crap

I trust ironside not to give me crap lol, they explained everything to me because i was worried about the psu as well.

 

[bigcyco1]

That PSU is not going to be a quality unit. A buddy of mine bought a 850w PSU from Coolmax and when it failed they gladly replaced the PSU.....not the motherboard and graphics card which also were fried. A good PSU will not ruin your system if it fails and it will have a MUCH lower fail rate.

the word standard pretty much gives off that its a generic psu with generic prebuilt quality: crap

I trust ironside not to give me crap lol, they explained everything to me because i was worried about the psu as well.

Never trust a sells rep that is selling you something what power supply is it since you inquired about it they should of told you ?

 

[CarolKarine]

you understand that regardless of what they say to you, their job is to sell you the component? ask them for a brand and model before you order it, and then let us know.

 

[bigcyco1]

you understand that regardless of what they say to you, their job is to sell you the component? ask them for a brand and model before you order it, and then let us know.

+1

 

[davoo23]

That PSU is not going to be a quality unit. A buddy of mine bought a 850w PSU from Coolmax and when it failed they gladly replaced the PSU.....not the motherboard and graphics card which also were fried. A good PSU will not ruin your system if it fails and it will have a MUCH lower fail rate.

the word standard pretty much gives off that its a generic psu with generic prebuilt quality: crap

I trust ironside not to give me crap lol, they explained everything to me because i was worried about the psu as well.

Never trust a sells rep that is selling you something what power supply is it since you inquired about it they should of told you ?

They're going to be using Kingwin

 

[TheBigTroll]

even if they are using kingwin, they arent using their awesome lazer units which cost around the 200$ mark. you are going to be getting the low end abt 1050

 

[tiny voices]

Just looked it up. That PSU isn't even 80+ rated. Ive never even heard of a PSU more than 700w that isn't at least 80+ bronze. This is nuts. I wouldn't touch that PSU with a 100 foot pole.

The unit has 11 ratings on newegg and half of them said it failed within 6 months.

 

[bigcyco1]

That PSU is not going to be a quality unit. A buddy of mine bought a 850w PSU from Coolmax and when it failed they gladly replaced the PSU.....not the motherboard and graphics card which also were fried. A good PSU will not ruin your system if it fails and it will have a MUCH lower fail rate.

the word standard pretty much gives off that its a generic psu with generic prebuilt quality: crap

I trust ironside not to give me crap lol, they explained everything to me because i was worried about the psu as well.

Never trust a sells rep that is selling you something what power supply is it since you inquired about it they should of told you ?

They're going to be using Kingwin

o.k. well that doesn't tell me which model so here is a handy chart of power supply reviews available: http://www.overclock.net/power-supplies/738097-psu-review-database.html#post9426914

If you'd like to know who manufactures a certain power supply, here are some charts and instructions that you can use to look it up:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page541.htm http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


Also another note, anything listed by ECOS http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx on the 80Plus charts is likely to be tier 4 or better.

 

[tiny voices]

The unit OP will be getting is the ABT-1050.

It only makes 35A on the +12v rail. Its pretty well junk. A good quality 550w unit will make 40+A on the +12v rail.

This is not a quality unit like they told you it will be.

 

[davoo23]

That PSU is not going to be a quality unit. A buddy of mine bought a 850w PSU from Coolmax and when it failed they gladly replaced the PSU.....not the motherboard and graphics card which also were fried. A good PSU will not ruin your system if it fails and it will have a MUCH lower fail rate.

the word standard pretty much gives off that its a generic psu with generic prebuilt quality: crap

I trust ironside not to give me crap lol, they explained everything to me because i was worried about the psu as well.

Never trust a sells rep that is selling you something what power supply is it since you inquired about it they should of told you ?

They're going to be using Kingwin

o.k. well that doesn't tell me which model so here is a handy chart of power supply reviews available: http://www.overclock.net/power-supplies/738097-psu-review-database.html#post9426914

If you'd like to know who manufactures a certain power supply, here are some charts and instructions that you can use to look it up:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page541.htm http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


Also another note, anything listed by ECOS http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx on the 80Plus charts is likely to be tier 4 or better.

It's probably this one, skip to 1:41 if you'd like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL_X4MrNYfs&list=UUW8uRKs6ujviFsMP1zOwWIg&index=33

 

[TheBigTroll]

yep. right there on the label at 1:44. abt 1050. and you are joking me with a non-modular and un-sleeved 1kw unit right?

 

[davoo23]

yep. right there on the label at 1:44. abt 1050. and you are joking me with a non-modular and un-sleeved 1kw unit right?

I'll be K ^_^ I'm covered for 3 years, if anything happens i'll have it fixed and change the PSU.

 

[tiny voices]

Does the PSU warranty cover it ruining other components, or does the computer have a total encompassing warranty?

Also, back up your HDD alot.

 

[Emelth]

its lego for adults. its too easy for you to screw up. newegg has a VERY extensive guide on how to do it. plus, the parts are not too different anyways so everything hasnt changed much

heres what i would get
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VbTb

heres what i would change out of yours

-i hope you do enough video editing to make the i7 worth it.
-cheap 120mm liquid coolers are a joke. when they blow up (some faulty ones do) they will kill your entire system
-the c70 is a hot house
-WAY better board. cant stress that enough. the extreme4 is built pretty cheaply
-way better fans out there than the sickleflows
-if you want lighting, do it right by using bitfenix LEDs. i find lighting a waste of time though. no one stares at their case
-stick with a 2x8 gb kit for future expansion
-more SSD storage
-evga ftw sucks compared to pretty much every other aftermarket 670.
-1000w is overkill plus the fact that you are using something from coolermaster or rosewell is a sure thing to get a crappy psu
-you change it to windows 7 pro if you want. for your rig, forget it. you can never use more than 16gb of ram since you filled up all the slots


if you cannot PHYSICALLY build the rig (seriously, im 15 and i can do it), you can take all the parts in my partslist, go to us.ncix, fill up the shopping cart, do the price matches to save, and then you can either call or email (calling is slightly better) and ask them to build it for you. they will do a job just as well for 50 bucks. it will take longer since it has to be assembled in vancouver but then its still a hell of a lot cheaper than whatever boutique builders can offer

- i7 will be worth it.
-Asetek makes corsair cooling and the 570 = h80i
-c70 has great cooling.
- This is the same board that won "Tom’s Hardware Approved Award"
- Sickleflows get the job done
- Lighting is more cosmetics.
- SSD is fine i was going to pass on it, but they told me to get that one instead.
- Excuse me did you just say EVGA FTW sucks?
- 1000w for a SLI motherboard.....clearly i'll be going SLI later on. Ironside only uses quality PSU's (3 warranty 3 year labor (free))
- 4x4 > 2x8 [Safety reasons, say one of the ram stops working]
- Windows 7 pro, again thinking ahead i will eventually upgrade my ram.

I just can't build it now, I've stated why already on this thread.

-fair enough. you better make it worth it
-no. i dont care if its from asetek or coolit. they both suck compared to a proper heatsink or the swiftech h220
-no.thermal sucks more than a silent case
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5834/corsair-vengeance-c70-case-review-going-for-the-gamers/6
-winning an award doesnt mean crap. go look at the mosfet rating here compared to the ud4h.
http://sinhardware.com/images/vrm.jpg
then go here and you will find that it ran at 47c under full load which is steaming hot for a motherboard
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/02/06/asrock_z77_extreme4_lga_1155_motherboard_review/6#.UYelALU4vUk
-sure it can. but you can do way better considering its the worst fan in this round up
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6391/120mm-radiator-fan-roundup-part-2-fan-harder/6
-well if you are doing it, do it right at get some bitfenix alchemy LEDs. cold cathodes will die off in a ugly mess
-you can get a way better model.
-yep. been there said that. the asus cools 8c better and quieter. does it not fall behind compared to other aftermarket 670s?
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/40613-evga-geforce-gtx-670-ftw/?page=9
-1000w is for 3 way SLI. something you can never do with a z77 platform without a PLX chip
-no. if a 1000w unit costs 100 dollars, there is something seriously wrong. no good 1000w unit costs 100 dollars especailly at boutique builders (where they rip you another 50%). here is the cheapest 1000w unit i can find made by kingwin. its a older superflower design with tested less than 80% efficency. id like you to see if you can pull 1000w out of it without failing
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9223
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121070

-no. ram almost never fails.
-thats funny since if you want to upgrade your ram, you will have to throw away 2 of your sticks instead of adding 2 sticks like you would do on a 2x8gb based system

i said, you can do a custom order through us.ncix. they at least dont give you crappy psus

Lol i'm not doing this, i have friends who helped me pick out the parts through experience, i'm not a big fan of "oh this company says its a shitty this or that, so i'm not going to use it" I'm sure i'll be fine + there's warranties for a reason.

Since your saying this why are you even here on the forums? Clearly you aren't taking any of our advice and warnings, we are here to help you out all your doing is being a complete dick to our members. If that's what you want go buy it, we have been doing this for years helping members out left and right to get the best bang for the buck and to make sure their rig doesn't crap out on them.

So either close this thread and go get your new rig or listen to the advice that we give you without the extra hassle of having to deal with your shitty attitude

 

[TheBigTroll]

yep. right there on the label at 1:44. abt 1050. and you are joking me with a non-modular and un-sleeved 1kw unit right?

I'll be K ^_^ I'm covered for 3 years, if anything happens i'll have it fixed and change the PSU.

no. whatever the psu blows up is not covered

 

[davoo23]

yep. right there on the label at 1:44. abt 1050. and you are joking me with a non-modular and un-sleeved 1kw unit right?

I'll be K ^_^ I'm covered for 3 years, if anything happens i'll have it fixed and change the PSU.

no. whatever the psu blows up is not covered

Lol they told me that it was, so i'm pretty sure i'm good. I asked them specifically on that, and it's all covered, and that's because they believe in the quality of their products so.....
http://ironsidecomputers.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=22

 

[TheBigTroll]

thats what they all say, until you screw up. been there seen that many of times

 

[tiny voices]

I believe that you think this is a quality unit. The computer will be built with quality and look very nice. The PSU however is not a quality unit. It doesn't matter what they tell you. The point is, it is not a quality unit. It isn't even 80+ certified. This certification is standard for any PSU. This means the efficiency is below 80%. Meaning it will draw more power and use more of your electricity from the wall. The unit likely makes around 800w. Not the full 1000w it says it does. This is common. About half of the reviews online say this failed in the first 6 months. A 1000w PSU for $100 is like diamond earrings for $100, you know there must be something that isn't right.

 

[davoo23]

I believe that you think this is a quality unit. The computer will be built with quality and look very nice. The PSU however is not a quality unit. It doesn't matter what they tell you. The point is, it is not a quality unit. It isn't even 80+ certified. This certification is standard for any PSU. This means the efficiency is below 80%. Meaning it will draw more power and use more of your electricity from the wall. The unit likely makes around 800w. Not the full 1000w it says it does. This is common. About half of the reviews online say this failed in the first 6 months. A 1000w PSU for $100 is like diamond earrings for $100, you know there must be something that isn't right.

TBH all components fail even very high end components fail, it comes with the category, and if this just happens to fail like you guys assume it will, well then believe me they'll compensate me. I trust these guys. If you look at it this way, more people buy "quality" brands than they do "standard" brands so ofc when you look up a review, half of them failed, if you were to look up quality brands failure rate i'm sure they'd have a lower % mark and that's because more people are buying them. Now if they had equal sales rate i'm sure it'll 50/50 on both sides.

 

[tiny voices]

Your statistics are skewed. If 10 people buy something and half of it failed then 50% of people had a failure. If 1000 people buy something and 500 failed then 50% failure rate as well.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you do not understand. Not every PSU is the same quality. The one you will be getting is a low quality unit (poor performance, poor efficiency, poor design, likely no safety circuit.) It will not be reliable because it just isn't designed to be. Its designed to be cheap not high quality. You cannot compare it to a quality unit because they are completely different in every way. It just plain and simply isn't a good PSU.

 

[davoo23]

Your statistics are skewed. If 10 people buy something and half of it failed then 50% of people had a failure. If 1000 people buy something and 500 failed then 50% failure rate as well.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you do not understand. Not every PSU is the same quality. The one you will be getting is a low quality unit (poor performance, poor efficiency, poor design, likely no safety circuit.) It will not be reliable because it just isn't designed to be. Its designed to be cheap not high quality. You cannot compare it to a quality unit because they are completely different in every way. It just plain and simply isn't a good PSU.

lol you can't use numbers like that when it's a thing of "chance". Plus you guys make it sound like i'm going to be stuck with a defected PSU for the rest of my life.

 

[TheBigTroll]

not failing doesnt mean its bad. it can supply power alright, but its when you run the psu through a tester and then you realize how much ripple it sends to your parts. and its the voltage ripple that kills parts