31% of Windows 7 Problems Are From Install

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Coupla thoughts on that. Either:
1. I'm impressed that most problems are during install or
2. Most problems are during install because the OS is new and more people are installing it now than they would a couple years down the road.
 
Problem? What problem. Easy install after inserting the Windows 7 disk in the drive. Fallowed the instructions and boom it was done. After an hour or so, I was cruising the net. Error free...
 
I have been having problems with Windows Explorer, and I wonder if I am the only one since I have not come across anyone online with the same problem.
Running Windows 7 Ultimate on a i7-950, X58 chipset board, 12 Gb RAM. Anything in the Documents subfolder seems to be subject to the vagaries of Chaos. I tried moving a file from the Documents/Videos subdirectory to another drive, using the mouse. Suddenly my Videos subdirectory no longer exists! (My Videos is fine, but I have to recreate the library in Documents). Another time I was deleting subdirectories under Documents, and first Explorer crashed, restarted, and all the subdirectories I did not delete were *GONE*! I had to use Recuva to get most of them back (some were strangely irrecoverable). My roommate sloughs it off to pebkak, but I know for a fact that I did not delete those files. Never had that problem with Vista.
Otherwise Windows 7 works great! I just have to keep a sharp eye on those vanishing files.
 
Interesting to note: when people are left to their own devices they usually have problems, as this article uncovers. So, the solution is to control the user experience, be it software or hardware (Apple anyone?). I have used both mac and windows based systems for many years and all I have to comment is people who "know how to use a mac" in many cases know very little about computers.
Quick example,
Mac: "My Mac has wireless (smug tone)."
Windows : "What type of wireless?"
Mac: "I don't know, it just works."

This is where apple thrive and good on them for doing so. I would recommend an apple to anyone who: 1) doesn't care to know anything about computers but still wants to use one, 2) has enough money for the premium of owning a mac.

Eventually all the people having problems with windows will switch to mac, then there will be enough macs in the market that hackers will target them. When this happens, the usually ignorant users of mac will stop the myth that macs are more secure (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pwn2Own-CanSecWest-2009,7322.html)

I have windows and I don't get viruses, I would say it is because I took the time to learn how to use a computer.

"People will rise to the level of their own incompetence."


 
I don't think there's anything wrong with the article. I'm a Windows 7 user, primarily.. I also use OSX and Ubuntu...

This story is accurate, and lacks bias.

 
I've had my first Win7 install issue on a clients new PC (OEM) - Halfway through the clean installation, nothing but black screen. I just started from scratch and it installed fine the 2nd time.

Only issues I see is not so much Win7, but ZoneAlarm in that is being retarded about "Finding New Network" on every wake or reboot! Gets old really fast.

Some if the idiot-proofing in Win7 is still bothersome... times like that makes me enjoy XP more. Perhaps we'll have some Power Tools for Win7... that'll:

- HOLD various file selections, when while changing sorting order (works fine in Win98~WinXP)
- Lock on DETAILS view when moving or selecting files.
- Status bar that is actually useful (like in Win98~XP) - with the older OS - A quick look below and you know how much HD space is used... not in WIN7.... gotta go to drive properties.
- Still very easy to LOSE files in Win7... when it drops them in the wrong place... or when trying to PAST - you end up launching programs or opening files. ARGH!


 
Oh... and forgot to say.

The WinXP upgrade isn't really a problem. Its a clean install, not an in-place upgrade. Nobody should be doing an in-place upgrade, when possible.

- - - -

Speaking of losing directories.... yep, I've had Win7 somehow delete a whole directory off my DVR... I couldn't recover anything. So far, the only thing that Win7 has done to piss me off. Had about 2 weeks of recordings. there... gone.
 
I am not one to jump on the Marcus Yam hate bandwagon, and actually I've even defended him in the past when it wasn't safe to do so - but now it seems people are hesitant to give him slack, and lately, he deserves it once again. Dude, write objectively - and don't forget that to those who have experienced 0% problems with Windows7, you come off as a very bad reporter; not to mention for you to use data from an "organization" called iYogi (are you serious....the "i" part doesn't give it away to you?), simply is very unbecoming of your talents. Shame on you dude!
 
this isn't exacly windows bashing like all of you up there ^ are going off about. they didn't say 31% of installs have issues, they said 31% of issues are during the install process. it's got nothing to do with how pervasive an issue is even, it's just that of the issues out there, those make up a 31% margin.
if you guys are going to flame a writer you might want to learn to read.
 
if you guys are going to flame a writer you should learn to read.
it doesn't say 31% of windows installs have issues, it says that 31% of issues are releated to installs.

that's like saying that since it's rained on 100% of the world at one point, that the entire world is rainy.
 
[citation][nom]omnimodis78[/nom]I am not one to jump on the Marcus Yam hate bandwagon, and actually I've even defended him in the past when it wasn't safe to do so - but now it seems people are hesitant to give him slack, and lately, he deserves it once again. Dude, write objectively - and don't forget that to those who have experienced 0% problems with Windows7, you come off as a very bad reporter; not to mention for you to use data from an "organization" called iYogi (are you serious....the "i" part doesn't give it away to you?), simply is very unbecoming of your talents. Shame on you dude![/citation]
Today I also reported on a teardown analysis done by a company called iSuppli, which estimated that the PS3 Slim costs $336 to manufacture. Clearly I was in error to believe that any company with a lowercase 'i' in front of it could be credible at all. And clearly iYogi's data from over 100,000 of its customers must be called into question due to the corporation's name. Obviously iYogi is in a terrible position to offer technical support for PC users due to the pesky lowercase 'i' in its name.

This article is reporting information supplied by iYogi regarding its business. Those who do not have problems with Windows 7 are not part of the data set, as this company likely has no service to offer those who aren't experiencing technical difficulties.

It would honestly be insulting to our intelligent readership to add a disclaimer or buffer to every single one of our articles informing them not to get too worked up about their software allegiances.

Really now, would you be that much happier to read something like "For those very few people who have problems with Windows 7, 31 percent of the issues are to do with the install -- but don't worry, MOST people have 0 percent issues with Windows 7, and it's a great OS, so those installation problems aren't really that serious!"?

If that's the sort of reading comfort you're looking for, then this isn't the right place for you.

This article is objective in its relaying of information collected by a technical support firm regarding those who do have problems with Windows 7. I personally haven't ever had a single problem with Windows 7 (yes, 0% problems, in fact!) but that doesn't stop me from thinking critically that for those who do have problems, most of them have to do with the install process -- and that bit of information is both interesting and newsworthy to me.
 
Installing Win7 on my game rig was a breeze and took only ~25mins. Trying to fudge the POS Creative X-Fi drivers to work properly with the bass redirection/crossovers I wanted took ~3hrs and I still get random channel remap issues while gaming and playing music. Fuck you, Creative Labs!
 
Aero snap problems ... sometimes it does not work as expected and can become annoying

the other times, it does work as expected and becomes annoying.
 
I have to say that my last posting was not a direct attack at Marcus but more to just make a point about the Article from iYogi itself. I wrote my last post in about 5 minutes since I was about to head back to work after lunch break.

BUt I do stand firm on the fact that most issues that people have with installing or upgrading Windows 7 from Vista is either hardware related or bad messed up Vista install eg: driver issues or plagued with spyware & visues. I have also noticed that most of the machines having install issues that come from running Windows XP is mostly hardware related eg: not enough spec's to run a more up to date OS most times a Memory upgrade
or a bigger hard drive fixes most of the issues also those that still have creative labs Sound blaster lives can pretty much forget about using those sound cards with Windows 7 & have them work properly unless creative releases a driver update in the near future. Yes there are actuall install issues as well that can happen while installing Windows 7 but for the most part it goes smoothly.

Like a lot of others have said Both Windows Vista & Windows 7 have a bit of a learning curve but that is to be expected in a new OS other wise we would not have all of the new features to use some are good & some of them not so good. I for one an glad they finally got rid of the outlook express email program it was so outdated & lacked so many features yes Vista had Windows Mail but it was still pretty much a renamed outlook express. I install Windows live Mail on all of our store systems we sell it is free & works pretty good unless our client wants something else like Outlook from office but most are not willing to spend the extra money to get Office standard 2007 just to get Outlook since all of our system come with a full version of home & student 2007 not the 60 day trial most other places like to pass off as a good thing in the spec's list.

Marcus Yam if you like Apple products that is up to you nothing wrong with that but if you want to be credible as a news source for people you need to report both the good & bad from both sides eg Microsoft & Apple not just the negative article's you find on the internet. Again this is not a attack towards you I have seen you write some pretty good stuff on this site.

 
I am not sure exactly what to make of the problems revealed in the article. All of my Win7 installs have so far been clean with new , used , modern and old hardware ... not one (so far) had any problems installing. I just can't stand the default install of 7, and before long I end up turning OFF as many features as I can find switches , the desktop becomes very vanilla. I personally do not like the swoops and shiny trinkets that any OS offers. So after all my rambling, my only problem with Win7 64bit is that it is not completely stable when it comes to playing games and IE8 has a habit of not launching in the same place as it was last closed as well as having too many unresponsive episodes. I have not yet tryed Win7 32bit as a gameing machine , however that will be next. So far, my personal feeling is that Win7 is NOT faster but is a little slower than XP with regards to gaming.
 
i think that hiding known file extensions by default is troublesome and might even be a security risk.
Specially since there still are a lot of people who use their system unprotected and even completely turn off UAC.

However i always thought i was the only one that let the hidden file extensions get on my nerves.
I do know how to un-hide them and its the first thing i do on any system, however i would prefer them not being hidden by default for all our sakes.

Come to think of it file extensions do have use so i really don't get why any one would want them to be hidden and therefor i would like to know why people here hide them or keep them hidden (surely its not purely Aesthetics).
 
People need training or atleast some hands-on experience before they do experiments on a new software. I would say its not a problem, but learning defficienncy of a person if they face such issues. and for any issue its easy to just google it around and fix them. If you dont know is a problem,, I dont know how to handle the mars rovers.. that means NASA is bad.. lol.
 
It's curiosu to see the two default settings I hate the most are in that list:
Hidden file extensions - WTF I'd like to know if it's a .bmp or a .exe with a .bmp icon
Hiding drives by default - WTF where has my DVD drive gone? (Did it not load the drivers... it's there in the BIOS...)
 
On my Windows 7 I had invisible icons and thumbnails and black background pictures. None of the (many) solutions in the internet worked for me and even Microsoft Support was completely unable to resolve it. Doind an Upgrade (also Repair) -Install from inside Windows solved the issues.

Of course Windows 7 may not be the culprit here, since I installed it with two completely malfunctioning RAM-blocks (which I did not know then).
 
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