News 64-core Ryzen Threadripper 9985WX spotted in shipping manifests — 16- and 12-core siblings also spotted

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AMD is shipping a handful of upcoming Ryzen 9000 Threadripper CPUs to its global testing facilities, hinting at a near-future launch.

64-core Ryzen Threadripper 9985WX spotted in shipping manifests — 16- and 12-core siblings also spotted : Read more

 

[SonoraTechnical]

Could they do a Threadripper 9985 WX3D w/ 3D Cache on all 8 CCDs?

 

[Eximo]

That was the rumor late last year. The ability to disable it showed up in software. However, that doesn't mean it wasn't just a test sample or just recycled code from the desktop chips.

High core count chips already have a large cache pool, and presumably the vast majority of workloads would not benefit from it.

 

[-Fran-]

AMD, please make me regret buying AM5 and the 9950X3D with a solid value for any of these 16C+ TR platform. Show me you do have a platform that I will jump into because of plenty of lanes and cores for me to use for whatever I want. Also, decent support, please.

Regards.

 

[jp7189]

Could they do a Threadripper 9985 WX3D w/ 3D Cache on all 8 CCDs?

I wish, but not likely. It doesn't seem like even Epycs will get stacked cache this gen.

 

[newtechldtech]

AMD, please make me regret buying AM5 and the 9950X3D with a solid value for any of these 16C+ TR platform. Show me you do have a platform that I will jump into because of plenty of lanes and cores for me to use for whatever I want. Also, decent support, please.

Regards.

Wont be cheap ... The motherboard price will be the problem , even if they sell the 16cores threadripper CPU for something like $800 , the PCIe lanes and more slots will cost alot , at least $600 for entry level Motherboard upto $2000 if all lanes and slots are used.

 

[newtechldtech]

Could they do a Threadripper 9985 WX3D w/ 3D Cache on all 8 CCDs?

For what ? This is not a gaming CPU at all .

 

[usertests]

Could they do a Threadripper 9985 WX3D w/ 3D Cache on all 8 CCDs?

For what ? This is not a gaming CPU at all .

Unspecified workloads could benefit since there are Epyc chips like the 9684X (96 cores, 12 CCDs all with V-Cache). It's obviously not intended for any normal consumer or gamer, but neither is Threadripper, and it can exist if AMD wants to sell it.

AMD, please make me regret buying AM5 and the 9950X3D with a solid value for any of these 16C+ TR platform. Show me you do have a platform that I will jump into because of plenty of lanes and cores for me to use for whatever I want. Also, decent support, please.

Value will be atrocious as long as Intel isn't releasing competitive and cheap workstation chips. If you really need those lanes and cores for your home server or whatever, you will have to reach deep into your wallet.

In an ideal world, Threadripper and Epyc would be merged, and there would be entry-level motherboards and SKUs. Still more expensive, but reasonable.

 

[Hooda Thunkett]

"Wont be cheap ... The motherboard price will be the problem , even if they sell the 16cores threadripper CPU for something like $800 , the PCIe lanes and more slots will cost alot , at least $600 for entry level Motherboard upto $2000 if all lanes and slots are used."

OMG! That's almost as much as a high-end GPU!
/s

 

[Vanderlindemedia]

Could they do a Threadripper 9985 WX3D w/ 3D Cache on all 8 CCDs?

Actually, the whole X3D cache is a Epyc cutdown.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H4eg2jOvVw


X3D came from high end customers who needed chips with higher amounts of cache instead of cores or just speed. AMD designed certain line of EYYC's with additional cache as we're seeing in the X3D.

Some EPYC chips did not make it, AMD hardware engineering team had to come up if the additional cache would be helpful in certain things. So the X3D was born since the extra cache helps games a lot.

There's no benefit other then a fat flat super expensive chip for no reason, with a absurd power requirement if you would slap 8X the amount of cache onto a chip like that. Due to CCD's having to communicate with one and another the latency involved would kind of destroy the purpose of the X3D in the first place.

Stop idolizing about a Dual CCD X3D chip - they have internally tested that and came up with, there's barely any benefit.

 

[Firestone]

People obsessing over 3D Cache don't get the point of these chips

 

[Stomx]

AMD, please make me regret buying AM5 and the 9950X3D with a solid value for any of these 16C+ TR platform. Show me you do have a platform that I will jump into because of plenty of lanes and cores for me to use for whatever I want. Also, decent support, please.

Regards.

I already realized exactly this your dream a year ago and could not believe how good this ended up. The fate and progress of consumer processors do not bother me anymore except temporally for processors for ultraportables as I probably need to update also my laptop to match these high end parameters (plus allow RAM at least 128GB etc). But all depends on what exactly you will need and ready to sacrifice. Ready for example that your electricity bill will go up minimum $1000 / year if you are in US (and up to 4000/year in some places. In Europe in some places even higher)? Compared to that the cost of hardware may become simply negligible

 

[Broly MAXIMUMER]

People obsessing over 3D Cache don't get the point of these chips

You don't know what workloads they're doing.

A lot more folk in the crazier professional spaces have indeed been coming out of the woodwork and mingling out in the open online as the hardware converges.

Not all of us are just playing games (if at all) nor just looking for the "craziest hardware we can get our hands on."

 

[Broly MAXIMUMER]

Actually, the whole X3D cache is a Epyc cutdown.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H4eg2jOvVw


X3D came from high end customers who needed chips with higher amounts of cache instead of cores or just speed. AMD designed certain line of EYYC's with additional cache as we're seeing in the X3D.

Some EPYC chips did not make it, AMD hardware engineering team had to come up if the additional cache would be helpful in certain things. So the X3D was born since the extra cache helps games a lot.

There's no benefit other then a fat flat super expensive chip for no reason, with a absurd power requirement if you would slap 8X the amount of cache onto a chip like that. Due to CCD's having to communicate with one and another the latency involved would kind of destroy the purpose of the X3D in the first place.

Stop idolizing about a Dual CCD X3D chip - they have internally tested that and came up with, there's barely any benefit.

So what I'm getting here is....

YOU arent privy to the particular odd workloads that THOSE particular software/ server customers wanted such a chip for = there is no real point to these chips....

Not how that works. You don't know what they are using such cache for, let alone what the og folk who asked for such a chip are using it for. Just because there's nothing obvious out in the open or on your radar that can use it, doesn't mean they're pointless.

I could already imagine some crazy hard simulations and number crunching would probably utilize way more than they're putting on the chips as is. Let alone if these specialized customers are designing they're own programs with that in mind, whether before or after that fact of X3D's invention.

 

[SonoraTechnical]

well I wasn't obsessing... I just asked out of curiousity...

 

[Firestone]

So what I'm getting here is....

YOU arent privy to the particular odd workloads that THOSE particular software/ server customers wanted such a chip for = there is no real point to these chips....

Not how that works. You don't know what they are using such cache for, let alone what the og folk who asked for such a chip are using it for. Just because there's nothing obvious out in the open or on your radar that can use it, doesn't mean they're pointless.

I could already imagine some crazy hard simulations and number crunching would probably utilize way more than they're putting on the chips as is. Let alone if these specialized customers are designing they're own programs with that in mind, whether before or after that fact of X3D's invention.

Instead of imagining you could just tell us what these workloads are that people are using it for