6800GS vs X800GTO (AGP versions): The final word

[GeneticWeapon]

Is Extreme Gear reliable?

 

[pauldh]

No problem. Good luck getting it all together. I'm Surprised to hear you are using the stock heatsink, but then again they still OC well with the retail cooling. Every S939 I have bought has been a retail box.


And about recommending the X800GTO, I am cheap and most of the time I've been recommending it, it's been $30-50 cheaper than any 6800GS. I can understand your point on the unlocking and overclocking, and if the current GTO's are worse OC'ers now then the 6800GS would have more to give. But I still look at cost and stock perfomance and the X800GTO wins both. I just can't see spending over $200 on a higher clocked 6800GS and the reference AGP's clocked 350/1000 were pathetic in Digit-lifes AGP charts.

I guess my problem or reasoning is that most of the systems I build for others I don't consider OC potential at all. Most people who would OC would be building it themselves. Unless they express interest in OC, I just try to buy the best stock bang for the buck.

Right now I'm bummed I missed that $145 Abit X800 256MB at Newegg. Only reason I didn't order it is I feared it had 700MHz mem and not 980MHz. Otherwise X800GTO for $170 now is not what I call a good deal, rather grab the $180 X800XL. But 6800GS AGP's are getting rare. newegg has two both out of stock, and I don't see even a single one on pricewatch. The two at Newegg cost $200 and $220 if they do come back in stock. Too high IMO.

 

[pauldh]

Is Extreme Gear reliable?

I have only placed a few orders with them which have been fine; no complaints. I have not dealt with them for an RMA, so not sure how good they are for customer service. I feel better buying a retial box than I would oem from them.

 

[pauldh]

Forget them, Newegg...currently the same price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537

Man, I didn't see this yesterday, but Zipzoom is $113 and no tax for me like newegg!!!
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80699-5

That's awesome, $113 + the Uli mobo is a nice upgrade for AXP owners with a decent AGP card. Especially considering what used AXP's are going for.

 

[Scougs]

You never said what you got with your X800GTO you just said that it was higher. I am not trying to say that an R430 unlocked is better than 12 pipe R480 overclocked but I think it is in the ballpark.

 

[GeneticWeapon]

Man, I didn't see this yesterday, but Zipzoom is $113 and no tax for me like newegg!!!
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80699-5

Fucking -A dude, I'm probably going to order this tonight.

You're the man Paul.....

 

[GeneticWeapon]

You never said what you got with your X800GTO you just said that it was higher.

 

[cleeve]

It cracks me up that people on this forum(Cleeve, Prozac, Paul) recomend one of these R430 GTO's over the many different varieties of 6800GS's that are available, and the success rate of unlocking a 6800GS is much higher then that of unlocking an AGP GTO PooPoo to 16 pipes:

That's the thing... I don't recommend a card based on what it can be unlocked to, I recommend it based on stock performance. I recommend the X800 GTO based on the assumption that it WON'T unlock.

Is an unlocked 6800 better than an X800 GTO? Of course it is.

Is everyone comfortable with unlocking? Of course they aren't.

Is there a guarantee it'll unlock? Off course there isn't.

Regardless, I still put the AGP 6800 GS in the buyer's guide with a note about it's unlocking potential... althoughn I'll probably just get rid of the 6800 GS and X800 GTO in AGP entirely in favor of the X800 XL, which is guaranteed 16 pipes...

 

[GeneticWeapon]

Hey Paul...I just read a review that gave me wood......have you read it already?

 

[GeneticWeapon]

I'll probably just get rid of the 6800 GS and X800 GTO in AGP entirely in favor of the X800 XL, which is guaranteed 16 pipes...

Why put a card in your buyers guide that wont be available soon?....very soon?

 

[cleeve]

That's the thhing though... it's always a bitch to decide what is 'available enough' to put in the list if it's not everywhere.

Not sure.

 

[GeneticWeapon]

That's the thhing though... it's always a bitch to decide what is 'available enough' to put in the list if it's not everywhere.

The X800 series is about to become unavailable. ATi has drained it to it's full potentional(thanks to the GTO series) and I wouldnt bother nrecommending it to anybody from here non out(minus a couple of specials that may appear.

 

[cleeve]

Well that clinches it. i'm adding it as an honorable mention.

 

[GeneticWeapon]

Well that clinches it. i'm adding it as an honorable mention.

That's fucking fiucking bullshit Cleeve you fucker dont nthink thAT because I'm drinking tequila thgat I dont see the that your only trying to get my fucking goat goddamnit you need to do the right thing with that buyers guide fuck fuck Grrrrr

 

[cleeve]

rofl. Dude, I really don't know what else I could possibly say to that.

P.S. I really like your new avatar...

 

[RichPLS]

My old X800XT PE still jams!