6800GS vs X800GTO (AGP versions): The final word

TurdBurglar

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I realize the Short List Video Card thread lists this as a tie in the $150-200 segment for AGP cards. However, it appears that the X800GTO is the better card on paper.

Specs:

X800GTO AGP
Clock Speed: 400Mhz
Memory Effective Clock: 980Mhz
12 pixel shaders
6 vertex shaders
256-bit memory bus

6800GS AGP
Clock Speed: 350Mhz
Memory Effective Clock: 1000Mhz
12 pixel shaders
5 vertex shaders
256-bit memory bus

It seems that the higher clock speed and extra vertex shader of the X800GTO would give it a clear victory. I've heard that both are good overclockers so the differences would likely be similar even after both are overclocked. What is your call? Also, is it worth the upgrade from say a 6600GT or X800GT, which can still be sold on ebay for near $100. Remember, this is an AGP discussion.
 

Dr_asik

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If you have a 6600GT AGP and want a significant upgrade for your graphics, you should consider moving up to PCI-Express.
 

TurdBurglar

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True, PCI-Express has more options at lower price points, but this move entails processor, motherboard, video card, and possibly PSU upgrades. That quickly adds up, where a simple $150-200 will last another 1-2 years, at which point better technology will be available at lower prices, making the move a more viable option.
 

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The 6800 GS AGP might have a lower clockspeed, but specs don't tell the whole story. Architecture makes a difference, and both cards will win their share of benchmarks.

Add to that the AGP version of the 6800 GS has a chance of unlocking pipelines, and it can't be ignored. In real life terms, neither card outclasses the other in every aspect, so a tie is how I called it.
 

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The reason for my last intervention is that 150-200$ to move from a 6600GT to a 6800GS or equivalent is not a good value in my opinion. This won't make a 2-years difference, really. If you don't feel like doing a major upgrade on your computer, then I'd reccomend you stick with your 6600GT, save the 150$ for the next serious upgrade.
 

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After selling the 6600GT, the true cost of the upgrade is really only $70-90. This makes the decision a little harder. These two cards offer a significant increase in performance over 6600GTs with 4 additional pipes, 256-bit memory buses, and greater overclocking capabilities (and as Cleeve mentioned, the possibility of unlocking 4 more pipelines on the 6800gs).
 

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The 6800 GS AGP might have a lower clockspeed, but specs don't tell the whole story. Architecture makes a difference, and both cards will win their share of benchmarks.

Add to that the AGP version of the 6800 GS has a chance of unlocking pipelines, and it can't be ignored. In real life terms, neither card outclasses the other in every aspect, so a tie is how I called it.
Cleeve, he might be able to also unlock the pipes on hte 800GTO. I ordered a X800GTO Sapphire AGP from Chiefvalue a month ago, and it is unlockable!

Havent done it yet. PM "Scougs" for more information!
 

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That's what I thought as well. Apparently the X800GTO (RV430 core) can be unlocked to 16 pipelines as well with a bios flash.
 

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Where have you found info on this? I didn't know the R430 core was unlockable. I thought it was only the R480 core that was capable of 16 pipes. I'm apparently grossly misinformed.
 

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The R430 cards suck ass....I'm telling you. Even after one has been unlocked and overclocked, it performs worse then the regular R420 and R480 GTO's.

I've seriously done my homework :lol:



 

pauldh

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But GW, At stock speeds, the 6800GS AGP is a wimp though. Just look in Digit-lifes AGP charts. The X800GTO would beat it more often than not, and sometimes by alot. But my vote is for neither of these 12-pipe cards seeing how Newegg has the X800XL for $189. IMO that's the AGP card to buy if a 7800GS is too much money.
 

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single card wise, ati or nvidia is the way to go agp or pcie

LMAO...so, you're saying that if we're considering AGP or PCI Express (the two largest video card technologies. Let alone the only ones still supported) that we should go with ATI or Nvidia (the two largest video card makers)? That's new news to me. :lol:
 

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I agree
X800XL is a Very viable card and the one the GTO sets out to beat.(knowing that every bro that gets one's gonna try to juice the worth out of it anyways....)
Might as well get the real thing.
 

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Dude....when I looked at that card, it made my giblets tingle 8O

Seriously, once my Asrock mobo dies(I order friday) I will never look at AGP cards again.(and I've said that before, and now look at me :roll: )
 

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:roll: postcount
POST WHORE >:

actually im thinking about getting a new videocard sometime buuut i do <3 my 9800 Pro and its holding up well :p, and since im cheap and not going to upgrade to PCI-E till i get a new computer..mmm i think ill keep it for a while

however i thinks i need to order a new CPU Cooler...and NB Fan....damn Abit AI7 and your shitty NB fan >:....yep...this has nothing to do with the topic either...

post count :roll:
 

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