6870 low fp on all games.

[dazzletoad]

Hello,
Ok, When I unboxed my PowerColour hD 6870 Graphics card. I plugged it in and it was worse than my 9600. I was getting 100-200 mediocre fps. My new graphics card didn't performed the way I'd like to to. My graphics card is not over heating and I have a 750 watt power supply. Suggestions for help? Here is my last resort, if I cant get it fixed. Im going to the computer shop

Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory:
4096MB RAM
Hard Drive:
808 GB
Video Card:
Radeon HD 6870
Monitor: Running at 1920x 1080 on a 23 Inch Screen.
Operating System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
Motherboard: ASUS P5Q SE/R

 

[Mousemonkey]

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[bystander]

You guys don't understand, if you play CS:S, regardless of what you can "see", higher frames can affect the gameplay.

Specific fps caps change the mechanics of the game...and the 6870 should be getting much higher fps. The default fps_cap in CS:S is 300, and thats what the majority of players keep it at. A card like the 6870 should have no trouble attaining a steady 300 fps even at the highest resolutions and graphic settings. Heck a $75 5670 can get 300 fps max settings with absolute ease.

I would suggest trying to find a config within CS:S that eliminates the problem you are having. One little command could make a difference, at least mess around with the video settings in game.

I've seen posts that have these claims, and they are probably right. I saw one with all the math behind it and all. But the difference between having 100 fps vs 300 fps was so small that I doubt hardly anyone could notice a difference.

That said, I want to see benchmarks, with out vsync on, because I'd like to be able to see if there is a problem with the card and his general system. Once that has been proven to be running correctly, then he can then focus on CS solutions.

 

[amk09]

I've seen posts that have these claims, and they are probably right. I saw one with all the math behind it and all. But the difference between having 100 fps vs 300 fps was so small that I doubt hardly anyone could notice a difference.

That said, I want to see benchmarks, with out vsync on, because I'd like to be able to see if there is a problem with the card and his general system. Once that has been proven to be running correctly, then he can then focus on CS solutions.

It's not "probably" right...it IS right. I play the game every day and there are specific fps maxes that can change the way the game works.

For example, if you familiar with CS:S you may be familiar with bunnyhopping. There are specific fps_maxes that allow you to hit more perfect jumps, thus increasing your ability to bhop. Pro bhoppers however frown upon these fps_maxes, and the "legit" bhopping fps_max is 300. There is a huge difference and that is an absolute fact. Visually, yes, the difference between 100 vs. 300 is incredibly small. But for a lot of people its a necessity to have a consistent 300 fps.

Regardless, his video card shouldn't even break a sweat getting 300 fps.

 

[dazzletoad]

Thanks amk09. I'm still getting the same problem. I tried Just Cause 2 and I was playing it on FULL Settings everything on full AA etc. And i was running it on 50-80 fps which is great. I honestly cannot find the problem for this low fps on the game. I've tried every video setting and I'm just puzzled. Should I reformat?Should I go to the nearby computer shop?

 

[dazzletoad]

I don't believe the card is faulty whatsoever. It can run high quality games like Just Cause 2 on FULL settings 4x AA 16x AAF and MAX Graphics settings and still easily run it at 40-70fps. Most of my friends say that my CPU Is not good enough and is bottlenecking. My gfx card. Since it is Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz

 

[johnnyq8]

then why are you feel bad the card is good the proplem is not from it maybe because this new cards have limit of 60 FPS to run old games like CS:S if you are runing newest games like JC2 and get a good frame rates then its not the card its the game and the card so you dont have to do anything but you dont want to turn on V.sync it will make you sad but believe me 60 fps is very good why you want 300+ fps while your monitor Refresh rate is limited to 60 and you will see that annoying tearing in the screen your best option is to forget about it

 

[iam2thecrowe]

wtf is wrong with cs:s players and wanting 300fps? the game is old and you dont need 300fps. and yes i have played it. do you like screen tearing? does that help your gaming experience? just enable tripple buffering and vsync and be happy with a good quality image and rock solid framerate.

 

[amk09]

I explained EXACTLY why a player would want 300 fps in my post... Jeez people it's not that hard to understand -.-

Everyone knows that your monitors refresh rate is limited to 60 fps but that is not that damn point.

@dazzletoad, have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling CS:S?

 

[dazzletoad]

No. I have not. I will do it now but.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

I explained EXACTLY why a player would want 300 fps in my post... Jeez people it's not that hard to understand -.-

Everyone knows that your monitors refresh rate is limited to 60 fps but that is not that damn point.

@dazzletoad, have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling CS:S?

the only thing i understand is people seem to be really anal about fps in a crappy old game doing bunnyhopps.........but each to their own...

 

[amk09]

the only thing i understand is people seem to be really anal about fps in a crappy old game doing bunnyhopps.........but each to their own...

Crappy old game? Give me a break.

Counter-strike 1.6 (11 years old) and Counter-strike: Source (6 years old) are still the top 2 games played on steam over any of the current "NEW AND GOOD" games, more than all of the Call of Duty's released in the last 4 years - combined. It's still common to see 80,000 or more players on CS:S at the same time. Tell me why 80,000 people would still be playing an "old and crappy game" while you see a fraction of the players on the latest and greatest CoD games?

Please use your head before talking out of your ass like that. It's unnecessary to be so ignorant and stupid.

 

[dazzletoad]

Ive reinstalled and its still crap 😛. Please get on topic guys 😛. I think im bottlenecking since I think my CPU 2.66Ghz. I don't know guys 🙁

 

[dazzletoad]

By the way Ive had the graphics card for around 2-3 months ago. On the first month it was absolutely perfect. It somewent went crappy and I dont know why it just went crappy. Could it be a faulty card? What could it be? When I got the card it was fine but afterawhile it went bad.

 

[amk09]

By the way Ive had the graphics card for around 2-3 months ago. On the first month it was absolutely perfect. It somewent went crappy and I dont know why it just went crappy. Could it be a faulty card? What could it be? When I got the card it was fine but afterawhile it went bad.

If other games are working fine then its not a faulty card. More than likely a driver issue, maybe you could try to roll back to an older driver?

By the way your CPU is not a bottleneck on CS:S, a single core pentium 4 could run the game on high settings back in 2004. A quad core @ 2.66 should have no problems. Oh that reminds me, there is a command you can enter in the launch options that may help you out, it enables multi-core rendering. In steam, right click on CS:S, click properties, then set launch options, and type "-threads 2" without quotes, or in your case since you have a quad-core you could try "-threads 4"

anything is worth a try, i would suggest setting the launch options in steam before rolling back your drivers.

 

[dazzletoad]

Ok man thanks Ill try now.

 

[dazzletoad]

Hmm didn't do much. Where can i get suitable drivers for my Powercolour 6870 gfx card.

 

[amk09]

Hmm didn't do much. Where can i get suitable drivers for my Powercolour 6870 gfx card.

I know you said you messed with the video settings in game...but have you tried enabling multi-core rendering through that? Also, try setting CS:S as a high priority in task manager. be

Another couple questions. What servers are you testing this in? Did you fix your rates and do you have good ping? Or are you just basing this off the in-game video test?

Also, see what kind of CPU/GPU usage you are getting while playing. I think you can monitor both of these with Rivatuner.

As far as rolling back drivers, I'm not sure, maybe google can help :/

 

[bystander]

Don't get drivers for the Powercolour, go directly to ATI's website to get the official drivers. You'll find them at amd.com.

 

[dazzletoad]

I did a video stress test. + Multicore rendering is always on. I haven't put css on high prioty yet. I'll try it now. I'll reinstall drivers

 

[amk09]

well have you actually tried going into servers yet? I mean thats the only thing that matters... if you are getting 299 consistently in servers then who gives a rip about the stress test.

 

[nanoguy]

Hi there , first of all ur Res is little Bit too high for ur card , Ur Card Just cant Handle that high Res !

I got 75Fps with my Old 9600GT & now its 75FPs with my 6870 ! oh but away i am playing at 1440x900 !

 

[amk09]

Hi there , first of all ur Res is little Bit too high for ur card , Ur Card Just cant Handle that high Res !

I got 75Fps with my Old 9600GT & now its 75FPs with my 6870 ! oh but away i am playing at 1440x900 !

no its not, his res is fine -.-

if your are getting the same fps with a crappy 9600GT as a 6870 then something is wrong. Whether your cpu is bottlenecking or whatever else the issue is, something is wrong. The 6870 absolutely destroys the 9600gt, even making a joke out of 9600gt sli.

 

[bystander]

no its not, his res is fine -.-

if your are getting the same fps with a crappy 9600GT as a 6870 then something is wrong. Whether your cpu is bottlenecking or whatever else the issue is, something is wrong. The 6870 absolutely destroys the 9600gt, even making a joke out of 9600gt sli.

While you are more definitely correct when comparing newer titles, when it comes to ancient games, things don't always compare the same. Though the 6870 will still out perform the 9600, most what what makes the 6870 more powerful isn't being used on that ancient of a game, so there may be a much smaller gap than you'd expect.

 

[nanoguy]

So why Do i get same FPS ? Bottleneck or Something else ? what what ?

What else Can be Cause of This ?

 

[ecotox]

Hi there , first of all ur Res is little Bit too high for ur card , Ur Card Just cant Handle that high Res !

I got 75Fps with my Old 9600GT & now its 75FPs with my 6870 ! oh but away i am playing at 1440x900 !

Really?!?! Sounds like you got a 75Hz monitor and vsync turned on....