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Hello , i am Using Ati 6870 .

Just wanna know , will 6950 or 6970 Bring Huge Difference In Games that i play ?

my Resolution is Not That high . its 1440x900 Only .
 
But EVEN My 6870 + Phenom 955 BE is not Making me that Satisfied in some games Like Crysis 1 & Warhead or DEAD RISING 2 @ DX10 ( Dx9 runs great ) !

I mean If 6870 is something more than i need then all of my Games should run 100% FAST & not 30FPS Like Crysis In HeavY Combats or Large Places !
 
I was Thinking of Upgrade Phenom 955 BE to i5 2400 , to make those Little SlowDowns & performance Issues , because I reached to the 98% or more & I need Little Bit , just a bit , man its Crazy that I need 1% or Upgrade for 1%

But I realY cant Understand WHY CRYSIS SHould Slowdown when i look at Far Distance , why it Should Slowdown WHen I am In Crowded Combat Area ! WHY ?

is 1440X900 that hard for my Rig ?
 


To run Crysis at max even the 6950 probably won't be enough.
 
Btw ; when you look in far distance and have the framerate drop, can you see whats the gpu load ? I have the same problem with my 560TI when i'm playing Company of Heroes. The framerate drops to 17 :cry: , but the GPU load is maybe 40 % or so, and when i'm looking at short distance the fps is 50 or more and the GPU load is 80 %. Still are puzzled meself by this.
 
Ya man , same thing here , but My Lowest FPS is 25 , & in bad Condition is 30 & CLose distance its Smooth ( 60 ) , normal DIstance ( 40-50 ) .

Ok I have Installed ATI Tray & i will see & report you back bro .

But First let me Install Crysis , hehe . I just install it over & over again & Remove it after geting So much Disapointed !

But Look At my Setings , first of all EVEn 8x AA doesnt make my game lag , so i think VGA is Strong Enough , My res is 1440x900 ( its pretty Low & easy ) , I turned off AA , Tried VeryHigh & High Setings but both bring me the Smae Problem : FARDIstance Slowdown , EVEN there is a level that you should rescue CIA Femal Agent in the Village , that 2 tanks come to Blow you up , i get bad Slowdown in that place too !!!!

30FPs is not that much playable . Specialy WHen you expect much more than your New Expensive hardwares !

Oh man why they made such Game , game that is incompatible with all HARDWARES ! But Its very nice Game , i realy enjoy when i walk into Jungles & those Nice Places . EVEN 100 Times Playing is not Enough . & fun goes much higher WHen you can Play this game So Smooth .

i update my Catalyst always , Defrag , reg Defrag , clean , DX9 , WIndows 7 , xp ,32Bit , 64Bit , Higher Priorty & ... & Realy No Difference .

I saw ATI 6870 +oced i5 760 , which could run Crysiswarhead @ 40Fps in very heavY Conditions + fardistance . So i think its Not matter of VGA , i think its CPU Bottleneck or something .

I wish it was As fast As Crysis 2 , it Ran at 75FPS !
 



It seems your bottleneck (the hardware that keeps your performance at games low) is your CPU. No matter how expensive card you will put, this CPU will slowyou down.
check here, your cpu is getting old to be honest
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/3DMark-Vantage-Overall-Performance,2416.html

It is not a bad cpu to have for daily use. But not expect that you will play games flawlessly with all graphic enhancements on full. Especially for crysis i would suggest your turn down/off shadows and 4x antialiasing...

If you ever decide to upgrade your motherboard/cpu/ram an i5 2500k with 8gb ram and a motherboard would make you spend about 300-350euro..Then even at 1920x1200 you would have 4x Antialiasing and all gpu enhancements on full in most games. Crysis 2 for example would be eyecandy if you put the DX11 patch and the High Quality Texture patch..In your Phenom case though, even with the best gpu and monitor and ram..you can';t have it ...its the way cpus go ...
 
oh some addition now..How much ram do you have and how old is your hard disk (they could affect performance in game too). The situations you refer too (alot of combat and far distance) demand hard disk and ram performance too.
 
^ That's not true.

A Phenom 955 @ 3.6-3.8Ghz will not bottleneck any single card.

Don't know what their problem is, but my Phenom II 555 at stock doesn't even bottleneck my HD 6870.
 
Well i am sorry but it will bottleneck a gpu. A high end gpu that needs to throw in your monitor dx11 tesselation / alot of antialiasing and high end shadows will have issues if your cpu is so low.
I also have a pc with phenom II x4 925 and i can see the bottlenecking, you can't say that the phenom II 555 isn't bottlenecking...
 
That is because the Phenom II 925 runs at 2.8Ghz.
The Phenom II 555 runs at 3.2Ghz.

You need to research the cause of bottlenecking before you advice people to do things they don't need to do.
 
He can overclock the 955 and see if thats removes the bottle-neck it will help if he does. I ran crysis with a 4890 with the 955 at 3.9 and I saw no bottlenecks, the gpu was overclocked as well.
 
you really think 0.4ghz will make a difference on the performance of a cpu (bottleneck or not?)..Anyway i don't think that these replies should be "flammable" but i know from personal experience what is cpu bottleneck and what is not. The problem described from the original poster is a cpu bottleneck .

Also, cpu bottleneck can be checked only and only if you have same graphic card. If you do not have same gpu you can't be sure.

Dear original poster, there is a way to check if your cpu is keeping you back. Remove your graphic card, take it to a friend that has a way better cpu and plug it in. If you dont see same problems then its probably your cpu that keeps you back.
 
Actually, when it is as low as 2.8Ghz to 3.4Ghz it can make a quite large difference.

Take the old C2Q's for example, those would bottleneckwards at 2.8Ghz, but once bumped to 3.2Ghz, would shine.
I do have the same GPU that he does.

The only thing hat could be bottlenecking the OP is his resolution, where most of the work is on the CPU, if OP tries to overclock his CPU, the problem will go away.

This happened with my 1080p HDTV and my 720p Monitor.
 
I still insist he can at least test his gpu to another pc/cpu/resolution and be sure what is going on. By the way 1440x900 is not high resolution...and definitely his gpu can handle good fps at top end detail settings at 1920x1200. The only thing that remains is his cpu....
 
We still do not know the full specs on his system. The hard-drive could be a issue the ram may not be a enough, whats the system specs.
 



1440x900 IS NOT HIGH RESOLUTION!
 
It's not my thread so probably i shouldn't be doing this so DUKINUKI when i'am out of line please let me know and i shut up.
BUT ; i have the same problem on my i7 870 2.9, 8G RAM, CM GX750W, 560TI SOC, 1920x1080 Samsung SyncMaster BX2250 60Hz monitor, so maybe my info might help. ( if it's indeed the same problem ) It makes no difference at what settings i play ( lower settings are sometimes even worse ), it still is round 20 fps or less when looking in a far distance and when attacked by a lot of soldiers. Weird thing is that the GPU load is far less than when it's running on 50 fps looking closeby. You should think the gpu will work harder to compensate for the low fps. Maybe like you guys say ; botlleneck somewhere else ? AA off makes some difference but not that much. Also the game i play, Company of Heroes, is an older game, not as demanding as Crysis. I have the problem even with a game like Age of Empires III when i scroll over the map, the picture will "hang" for a sec or so and then stutters the whole way trough. The REAL weird thing is before the 560 i had a 465 and i didn't have that problem back then.
I know my HD isn't that great but why wasn't that a problem then with the 465 ???
 
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