9500 or 9600?

[Gulli]

"You are only partially correct.
There was an old 65nm Conroe based E6300 (1.86Ghz, 2Mb L2, 7x multiplier) but it has been out of circulation for more than a year.
There is also a new 45nm Wolfdale based E6300 (2.8Ghz, 2Mb L2, 10.5x multiplier) which is quite a nice budget CPU.
OP, just to be sure, check with the supplier that it is the Wolfdale based CPU else get it from the Other Site for $4 more."

I wasn't aware of that, my bad, and yeah, 2.8ghz + 2mb cache is ok for the system the OP is building, if it's cheaper, or 5-10 bucks more expensive than the E5300 than he should get the E6300.

 

[shubham1401]

You are only partially correct.

There is also a new 45nm Wolfdale based E6300 (2.8Ghz, 2Mb L2, 10.5x multiplier) which is quite a nice budget CPU.

What are your thoughts about Phenom II 550?

 

[Klosteral]

Please people, keep in mind that I want a budget PC that will perform well.

My current PC is this
AMD Athlon 3000+
Gigabyte K8-NF9 Triton
250GB IDE
2GB DDR 400 RAM
Nvidea 6800GS

So really, anything is better but my "Total cost" keeps going up, and now I will be paying $850. I cannot stretch any further. I am at my limit.

 

[Gulli]

How the hell did you get to 850 already?

 

[Klosteral]

$183 Monitor
$130 Motherboard
$100 CPU
$80 Box
$75 RAM
$65 HDD
$60 DVD-RW
$30 PSU
$10 KB+MS
_____________
$850 PC

 

[Klosteral]

And $110 for the Nvidea 9600GT

 

[redwine01]

what monitor u r getting for $183? dont go for really big display or resolution like 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 resolutions becoz at that resolution u cant play games with 9600gt. U r better of with 1600 resolutions or 1440 resolutions. those resolutions are good for gaming u will be satisfied interms of graphics quality and performance- just a balance between both

 

[Joe_Modesto]

Regarding monitors,
Response Time is important as well. something like 5ms is average but 2ms is excellent.
Gday to the fellow Aussies (pronounced Ozzies)

 

[Klosteral]

Lol, I'm surprised you bothered with the pronunciation.

I will be running either a 21.5" BenQ G222HDA or 22" BenQ G2020HD
Both have response time of 5ms.
G222HDA runs 1920x1080 G2020HD runs 1600x900

I am currently running a G2220HD, but to get another is too expensive

 

[Klosteral]

*G222HDA is supposed to be G2220HDA
*The G2220HD and G2220HDA are basically the same. Both run in either 1920x1080 OR 1600X900 (I'm currently running 1600x900)

 

[Gulli]

Oh, wait a sec, you're an Ozzie, so those are Australian dollars then? Still, you can easily get a cheaper DVD-RW (or better yet, just keep the one from your old rig), and get a cheap(er) 1440x900 monitor instead, and try to save on shipping costs by ordering multiple parts from the same vendor. And try to look for the cheapest vendor you can find, here in Europe a 9600GT costs 70 euro's, Intel E5300 CPU's can be had for 60 euro's and 4GB DDR2 memory for 50 euro's. Maybe things are more expensive in Australia, but all I'm saying is don't shy from spending a lazy Sunday on the web looking for the cheapest parts.

Oh, and unless you're an eagle you won't be able to see the difference between a monitor with 5ms response time and one with 2ms.

 

[redwine01]

Oh, and unless you're an eagle you won't be able to see the difference between a monitor with 5ms response time and one with 2ms.

LoooooL..........that was funny....

Yes get a monitor with 1440 resolution (generally 19inch). its the best optimized for the card (9600gt) u r having. 9600gt can play in 1600 resolution but in some games u may have to lower the settings. if u dont mind playing in lower graphic settings (which i do mind) then u can go for big monitors. Atleast movies can be watched nicely

 

[Klosteral]

I am not actually ordering my parts online or anything. I am getting them from shops within 30mins away from where I live (there are about 10-12 shops). I like using MSY and Netplus as well as Austin Computers:
http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
http://www.netplus.com.au/
http://www.austin.net.au/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx

I with my current rig, I went up from a 19" to a 22" and I am never going back.
Also, I cannot take apart my existing rig because I need two computers.
What I am building will be mine, the other belongs to the rest of my family.

I cannot find any SATA DVD-RW drives here for less than $60 AUD

 

[Klosteral]

9600gt can play in 1600 resolution but in some games u may have to lower the settings.

My mate has a 9600GT and a screen with a native resolution of 1600x900. He can run every single one pf his games at their best graphics without a hitch.

 

[Klosteral]

Um, slightly off topic but IT WONT LET ME EDIT =(

 

[Gulli]

9600gt can play in 1600 resolution but in some games u may have to lower the settings.

My mate has a 9600GT and a screen with a native resolution of 1600x900. He can run every single one pf his games at their best graphics without a hitch.

1600x900 isn't too far up from 1440x900 and would indeed be fine with a 9600GT, but it's a weird resolution, I'm not sure many games even support that resolution, so you may have to play with black bars at the sides, on the plus side, you won't have black bars when watching movies.

 

[Gulli]

Um, slightly off topic but IT WONT LET ME EDIT =(

Me neither but the "quick edit" button works fine.

 

[Klosteral]

I can play Call of Duty 4, Frontlines, Battlefield 2142, NFS Carbon and many more games in 1600x900. In fact, I don't think there is a single game in my house that doesn't work in 1600 x 900 res

If you want to see what I have been looking at, try to match my items to the stuff you find on the Netplus and MSY websites.

 

[redwine01]

I didnt said 9600gt will not run in 1600 res. it will run fine. But some games like crysis or world in conflict or Stalker clearsky u may not run it with max out graphics with AA. And moreover u r buying this rig now and i guess u will atleast keep this rig for 1year i mean u will not upgrade within 1year. Think about future. There are some good games coming out. Mayb those games will be much more demanding who knows.I was more worried about 1920 resolution in that resolution 9600gt isnt really enough. anyways yes 9600gt can run most of the games nicely.

 

[jyjjy]

Alright, I looked at the sites you are using. First off get the e5300 instead of the e6300. They have the exact same core and amount of cache. The only difference is the .2 ghz and that's entirely pointless considering they will overclock to the same level. OCing isn't hard and you should be able to get the speed up to 3.5 ghz or so just on stock cooling. That will save you $13.
Next get the P5QL-SE instead of the EPU. They are the same chipset and manufacturer and the $22 price difference is important with your budget.
There's also a DVD burner for $22 less than the one you picked out and the difference between them should be negligible.
That's $57 and the price difference between the 9600gt and the HD4850 is only $27. I only looked at those 3 parts but you can probably save money elsewhere too. You REALLY should be looking at a better PSU. That's the worst place to go cheap and the one you picked out is most likely terrible.

 

[Gulli]

I didnt said 9600gt will not run in 1600 res. it will run fine. But some games like crysis or world in conflict or Stalker clearsky u may not run it with max out graphics with AA. And moreover u r buying this rig now and i guess u will atleast keep this rig for 1year i mean u will not upgrade within 1year. Think about future. There are some good games coming out. Mayb those games will be much more demanding who knows.I was more worried about 1920 resolution in that resolution 9600gt isnt really enough. anyways yes 9600gt can run most of the games nicely.

1600x900 has only 11% more pixels than 1440x900, so it's a small difference. As long as he doesn't get 1680x1050, or higher, he should be fine.

 

[Gulli]

Alright, I looked at the sites you are using. First off get the e5300 instead of the e6300. They have the exact same core and amount of cache. The only difference is the .2 ghz and that's entirely pointless considering they will overclock to the same level. OCing isn't hard and you should be able to get the speed up to 3.5 ghz or so just on stock cooling. That will save you $13.
Next get the P5QL-SE instead of the EPU. They are the same chipset and manufacturer and the $22 price difference is important with your budget.
There's also a DVD burner for $22 less than the one you picked out and the difference between them should be negligible.
That's $57 and the price difference between the 9600gt and the HD4850 is only $27. I only looked at those 3 parts but you can probably save money elsewhere too. You REALLY should be looking at a better PSU. That's the worst place to go cheap and the one you picked out is most likely terrible.

Yes, go for this setup and get the Coolermaster extreme power+ 460W PSU for 60 dollars from here http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

 

[Klosteral]

Ok, thanks people. I will definetly go for the better PSU.

Sorry for the late reply, I just moved house so the communications have been all messed up.

 

[Klosteral]

Will the 460W PSU do it though? I need at least 600W from it.

 

[Gulli]

Will the 460W PSU do it though? I need at least 600W from it.

Where did you read that?