9500 or 9600?

[Klosteral]

Whoops, I need 500W.
I added all of my components into the following website, then added some extras for breathing room. http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

 

[jyjjy]

It should have no problems handling the system you are looking at.

 

[Gulli]

I can guarantee you the 460W PSU will be enough.

 

[Klosteral]

I still think I should pay the extra $5 and get the extra 40W. I am looking at getting the Coolermaster Extreme Power+ 500W for $65.

Thanks, for the pointer about the PSU. The generic one would probably give me the 650W... for a week... before dying.

 

[Gulli]

I still think I should pay the extra $5 and get the extra 40W. I am looking at getting the Coolermaster Extreme Power+ 500W for $65.

Thanks, for the pointer about the PSU. The generic one would probably give me the 650W... for a week... before dying.

If it's only $5 more, than yes, go for the 500W version.

 

[Klosteral]

Um, the MSY place is having trouble getting the E6300 processor so do I:

A. Wait for them to get it in,
B. Get the E5300,
C. See other suppliers and possibly pay more.

 

[Klosteral]

Ok. Do I pay $10 MORE and get the 45nm E6300
or do I pay $10 LESS and get the E5300?

 

[Gulli]

Ok. Do I pay $10 MORE and get the 45nm E6300
or do I pay $10 LESS and get the E5300?

Get the E5300 and overclock it to 2.8ghz (only 8% overclock.)

 

[Klosteral]

My current computer is has a socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 processor 3000+
It has a 1.81GHz stock speed, but it is "rated" at 3.00GHz and I can play most of the new games and such on it.

I am confused

If the E5/6300's are dual-core, shouldn't they be outputting 5.6GHz?

 

[FallenSniper]

A dual core doesn't mean it doubles the speed. It means you have two separate cores. Common misunderstanding.

 

[Klosteral]

But most new games allow for that dual-core function. So, if I was to play the upcoming MW 2 on my new rig, both cores would be active... right?

 

[Gulli]

But most new games allow for that dual-core function. So, if I was to play the upcoming MW 2 on my new rig, both cores would be active... right?

Yes, newer games (starting in 2007 I believe) such as MW 2 put both cores to work, even with CoD 4 you'll benefit from having a dual core CPU, even if the game doesn't use both cores efficiently the OS will still divide tasks between the cores to improve performance.

 

[jyjjy]

Get the E5300 and overclock it to 2.8ghz (only 8% overclock.)

Why stop there? Wolfdale chips should get up to 3.3-3.5 ghz even just on stock cooling with only a minor bump in voltage. With a good air cooler add you should be able to get near 4.0 ghz.

 

[Gulli]

Why stop there? Wolfdale chips should get up to 3.3-3.5 ghz even just on stock cooling with only a minor bump in voltage. With a good air cooler add you should be able to get near 4.0 ghz.

Yeah, but that would be very expensive compared to what we're looking at now.

 

[jyjjy]

More expensive how? All the chips being discussed are Wolfdales.

 

[Gulli]

More expensive how? All the chips being discussed are Wolfdales.

I see what you mean, and you're right: an aftermarket cooler can do wonders.

 

[jyjjy]

Well yeah, a cooler would be a good purchase but even on stock he should be able to get up to 3.3 ghz at least with no problem.

 

[Klosteral]

Ok, well thats good.
The box for my build is an Antec Two-Hundred mini tower, it comes with two 120mm fans as stock cooling.
I haven't the foggiest idea about overclocking so if I was to try, would you helpful people be able to guide me through it?

 

[Gulli]

Ok, well thats good.
The box for my build is an Antec Two-Hundred mini tower, it comes with two 120mm fans as stock cooling.
I haven't the foggiest idea about overclocking so if I was to try, would you helpful people be able to guide me through it?

Well, the E5300 (and even the E5200) can easily go to 2.8ghz, the speed of the E6300, effectively making it an E6300 because clockspeed and cache would then be equal and the FSB nearly equal (the FSB matters the least.)
Because it's only a minor overclock all you have to do to is set the FSB frequency to 225 in the BIOS.
You won't even need an aftermarket cooler to get to 2.8ghz.

 

[Klosteral]

Oh, whoops. I should have read this before finalizing my purchase.
I bought all of my parts yesterday, from CPU to keyboard, that means the E6300.
I have been browsing around the web, and I think I will be able to get the 6300 up to 3.0GHz without too much bother, and only $10 for a fan.

Would anyone here be able to help me out?

 

[Gulli]

Oh, whoops. I should have read this before finalizing my purchase.
I bought all of my parts yesterday, from CPU to keyboard, that means the E6300.
I have been browsing around the web, and I think I will be able to get the 6300 up to 3.0GHz without too much bother, and only $10 for a fan.

Would anyone here be able to help me out?

The stock cooler will be enough to take the E6300 to 3.0ghz, if you don't have a stock cooler you could get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103039

 

[jyjjy]

The fan that comes with Intel chips should allow you to OC to 3.3-3.5 ghz like I've said twice already.

 

[Klosteral]

The fan that comes with Intel chips should allow you to OC to 3.3-3.5 ghz like I've said twice already.

Yeah, I know you have said that, jyijy, I just don't understand how to OC or what the fancy, random numbers mean. Gulli seems to be better at explaining those kinds of things.
But, yeah, thanks. I will read around and attempt to over-clock my Wolfdale E6300 to at least 3.2GHz.
Explanations and instructions would be appreciated.

 

[jyjjy]

Basically all you will be doing is increasing the front side bus and perhaps the voltage a tiny bit. The e6300 has a stock FSB of 266 mhz and a core to bus multiplier of 10.5 thus the stock 2.8 ghz speed(10.5 x 266 mhz.) So just increase the FSB appropriately for whatever speed you want. For 3.2 ghz divide by 10.5 and you'll see you need to set the FSB to 305 mhz. It may be stable at those speeds without increasing the voltage of the chip as that's a fairly minor OC but if not the increase necessary should be very small.

 

[Gulli]

Yeah, I know you have said that, jyijy, I just don't understand how to OC or what the fancy, random numbers mean. Gulli seems to be better at explaining those kinds of things.
But, yeah, thanks. I will read around and attempt to over-clock my Wolfdale E6300 to at least 3.2GHz.
Explanations and instructions would be appreciated.

In the BIOS there is a setting that's named "FSB frequency" or something similar, Intel out it at 266mhz (factory settings), this means your CPU has a clockspeed of 2800mhz (or 2.8ghz) (FSB*4*multiplier=clockspeed with core 2 duo's and core 2 quads, the multiplier on your CPU is 10.5, you can't change that, nor the "times 4" factor so to increase clockspeed you have to increase the FSB) if you increase it to 285 the CPU will be running at 3ghz and if you increase it to 305 the CPU will be running at 3.2ghz. You will probably get to 3.2ghz by just increasing the FSB, but if you go higher you have to adjust the core voltage as well (but that's a whole other story.)