9800gtx in 3dmark 2006

[rickzor]

Taking this was a 9800gtx, am i the only one disappointed with the score?


PS: i actually dont take much credit from 3dmarks, but i surely was expecting a little more the geforce 8800 gtx sucessor

 

[crusoe74]

Yeah I second that. In a word...underwhelming.

 

[kellytm3]

Does'nt look legitimate,GTX cards have 768mb of memory,unless Nvidia has reduced them?

 

[systemlord]

There already has been a post about this for sometime over here, >>
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/248827-33-geforce-9800-card-appears-9800gtx-spec-3dmark06#t1791194

 

[nkarasch]

Hmm my 8800GTS 512mb oc'ed beats that, what the heck.

I got SM2.0 - 6740
SM3.0 - 6407

whatever card they benchmarked will not beat a 8800gtx or 8800gts 512

FAKE

also isnt 675 exactly the stock clock on the 8800gts? I dont remember the stock shaders but they can be pushed to over 1900 easily. The memory on one can easily go to 1100

Either way giving it a fancy name will trick a lotta people

 

[systemlord]

Hmm my 8800GTS 512mb oc'ed beats that, what the heck.

I got SM2.0 - 6740
SM3.0 - 6407

whatever card they benchmarked will not beat a 8800gtx or 8800gts 512

FAKE

also isnt 675 exactly the stock clock on the 8800gts? I dont remember the stock shaders but they can be pushed to over 1900 easily. The memory on one can easily go to 1100

Either way giving it a fancy name will trick a lotta people

Those SM2.0/SM3.0 scores are influenced by the processor, its not like you can compare them with anything real. I wish 3DMark06 showed real world differences rather than scores that can't be madeup

 

[caamsa]

What do you all expect with these new cards.....the second coming............? I mean come on they are usually modest improvements but not like quadruple you score with the new GOD video card. Yes now you and all your friends can own the last video card you will ever need to own..............................................it slices, it dices, it even does your taxes.............

 

[nkarasch]

Oh sorry for comparing SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores. For some reason I thought all of those tests were bottlenecked by the GPU and the CPU would not play much of a role.

 

[systemlord]

Oh sorry for comparing SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores. For some reason I thought all of those tests were bottlenecked by the GPU and the CPU would not play much of a role.

My SM2.0/SM3.0 are both just over 6000 points where yours are 700+ points high because you have a quad core, me have dual core. Wait a minute, what processor do you have and what speed?

 

[Hatman]

You'll have to wait to see how it scales in SLI if its anything like the 9600GT we can assume that the goal of this thing was to be used in SLI and tri-sli.

 

[heavylikemetal]

Ashame its not dx10.1/sm4.1

 

[T8RR8R]

May I speak for most people and say screw SLI. Yeah it's great if you have a 19** x 12** or higher res 24" + sized monitor but I don't think "most" of us do so it's pretty pointless if you have anything less than that as the CPU starts to take more of the workload from the GPU(s). If these scores are real I'd say 8800GTS 512 would be the way to go even if you do use SLI they're still a great buy. I could see if the 9800GTX was ~$300 it'd be worth it if you wanted to use 3 of them since it's something you can't do with a G92 GTS, but that's still alot of power used and heat built up. I guess I shouldn't speak too soon since we don't have any final results but these 3DMark skills look pretty dim from all of our expectations. I was hoping it'd be something to budge me from my 8800GTS640, but so far I'm not impressed. Even the 3870x2 looks like it'd be a better deal.

 

[systemlord]

I sure hope Nvidia takes dual GPU single cards seriously, because Nvidia's CEO doesn't care much for multi-GPU cards. ATI is going multi-GPU big time so Nvidia better start getting their act together. I think the main reason ATI went dual GPU's is because one of their GPU's is no match for a single card from Nvidia.

 

[T8RR8R]

I just read an article that said the 9800GX2 will be the hottest, most power consuming, and heaviest card ever. I dunno if that's all true but I wouldn't doubt it.

 

[nkarasch]

I didnt look up the article but maybe they are using a Pentium 3 or something? Maybe thats bottlenecking it.

oh and systemlord, I have a Q6600@3.6. Your dual would probably score about the same clocked that high I dont think 3dMark uses the other two cores much if at all but I might be wrong.

 

[systemlord]

I didnt look up the article but maybe they are using a Pentium 3 or something? Maybe thats bottlenecking it.

oh and systemlord, I have a Q6600@3.6. Your dual would probably score about the same clocked that high I dont think 3dMark uses the other two cores much if at all but I might be wrong.

I've seen alot of 3DMark06 scores to know that with SM2.0/SM3.0 scores like you have its gotta be a quad core overclocked. I assumed that you had a Q6600 without even thinking about it, I even went back to see if you even listed your processor. You can never have too much processing power for graphics cards (triple SLI) , because if it shows up in benchmarks its got to show somewhere else.

 

[T8RR8R]

How much processing power do you think it'd take to NOT bottleneck Tri-SLI?

 

[firebird]

I sure hope Nvidia takes dual GPU single cards seriously, because Nvidia's CEO doesn't care much for multi-GPU cards.

Maybe if they had a decent design for their dual GPU cards he would be more open to it. I think one of his compaints was how much it cost to produce compared to the performance gain. Well, maybe if he didn't have to make 2 PCBs and a crazy cooling solution it would be more viable. It's as if they are doing it their way because they don't wan to be like ATI, even though it's a better layout.

 

[T8RR8R]

1 PCB sure is alot easier to watercool, that's for sure.

 

[dev1se]

I wonder if I can find those exact results on the Futuremark website.

Nope, thought not.

 

[Hatman]

May I speak for most people and say screw SLI. Yeah it's great if you have a 19** x 12** or higher res 24" + sized monitor but I don't think "most" of us do so it's pretty pointless if you have anything less than that as the CPU starts to take more of the workload from the GPU(s). If these scores are real I'd say 8800GTS 512 would be the way to go even if you do use SLI they're still a great buy. I could see if the 9800GTX was ~$300 it'd be worth it if you wanted to use 3 of them since it's something you can't do with a G92 GTS, but that's still alot of power used and heat built up. I guess I shouldn't speak too soon since we don't have any final results but these 3DMark skills look pretty dim from all of our expectations. I was hoping it'd be something to budge me from my 8800GTS640, but so far I'm not impressed. Even the 3870x2 looks like it'd be a better deal.

No you may not.


PCHeck the scaling of preferably the 8800GT and 9600GT before you comment on how bad SLI is. What is it, like 70% average for 8800GT and 82% for 9600GT??


If you want ot run SLI in low res with no aa with stupid frames then complain about scaling like most newbs do then obviously its a waste.

Try switching on a bit of AA at low res then see how well it scales.

 

[SpinachEater]

No you may not.

Snap

 

[SpinachEater]

the new GOD video card.

AKA Chrome 400

 

[SpinachEater]

I sure hope Nvidia takes dual GPU single cards seriously, because Nvidia's CEO doesn't care much for multi-GPU cards. ATI is going multi-GPU big time so Nvidia better start getting their act together. I think the main reason ATI went dual GPU's is because one of their GPU's is no match for a single card from Nvidia.

Wow, I feel like celebrating...someone else actually pays attention to the CEO jibber jabber. I find that statement very odd and it is a weird split now to have ATI going balls out with the x2 and NVidia saying it is crap. It sounds like they are playing the CYA^3 game for the investors since they are 0 and 1 at the moment with the dual PCB layout and it also sounds to me that they are not pleased with the 9 series x2 performance. I think they are down playing the x2 to try to focus attention away from it.

I think you are right about ATI...all they need now is a comparable GPU and they can get back in the race. On the flip side, NVidia is going single GPU because their dual PCB design is a joke compared to ATI's single PCB...not performance wise, but ingenuity wise.

 

[steffato]

Noone can be sure that these screenshots are with a real 9800GTX. I can hack my 8800GTX's BIOS ID and make it appear as a 9800GTX or whatever. Then I can mod my forceware .inf to recognise the card and with a tiny overclock I can make these results. I don't think nVidia would sell such a low performing card as a 9800GTX. These results seem fake to me.

My (significantly overclocked) 8800GTX already makes SM2.0 : 6700marks and SM3.0:7200marks in windows vista and about 16300 total. I would expect the 9800GTX at stock clocks make at least 15000 with the 3870X2 already selling. I don't think nVidia are that stupid.

Not sure yet, but these results are probably fake.