Question A problem regarding overclocking

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Recently i've reinstalled windows since it was full and i wanted a full cleanup and after i've installed all my previous apps i've noticed something weird. MSI afterburner worked just fine, didn't have a problem with it. But, the real deal begins with Ryzen Master. I have a Ryzen 5 3600X with a motherboard from Asus (Asus Prime A320M-E). Before reinstalling windows i could overclock the cpu just fine without a problem up to 4.5Ghz with no problem, voltage too. Now i can't overclock anymore because i get this notification whenever i open Ryzen Master saying that "Overclocking feature is not supported by the processor". But how, since i've been overclocking this processor for a year without a problem whenever i needed to. Any suggestions? Thanks!
 
Just for the sake of relevance, can you state the BIOS version on your motherboard? Did you refabricate your bootable installer using Windows Media Creation Tools to rule out a corrupt installer? Can you overclock via BIOS(to rule out that you're not hardware limited)?

Might want to include your full system's specs for a "once over".
 
Just for the sake of relevance, can you state the BIOS version on your motherboard? Did you refabricate your bootable installer using Windows Media Creation Tools to rule out a corrupt installer? Can you overclock via BIOS(to rule out that you're not hardware limited)?

Might want to include your full system's specs for a "once over".
Asus prime a320m-3
ryzen 5 3600x
16gb ram ddr4
gtx 1060 6gb

I've just updated the bios to the lastest version and also installed some amd socket drivers from asus website and still the same story. For the the bootable installer i am using rufus since 2014 without any problems. Never had troubles after installing windows. I didn't try to overclock from bios yet, never did though.
 
And another weird thing is that everytime i open the pc after this reinstall i don't have internet connection. It only shows the globe and i have to unplug the cable and plug it again to have internet. It's really weird
 
Recently i've reinstalled windows since it was full and i wanted a full cleanup and after i've installed all my previous apps i've noticed something weird. MSI afterburner worked just fine, didn't have a problem with it. But, the real deal begins with Ryzen Master. I have a Ryzen 5 3600X with a motherboard from Asus (Asus Prime A320M-E). Before reinstalling windows i could overclock the cpu just fine without a problem up to 4.5Ghz with no problem, voltage too. Now i can't overclock anymore because i get this notification whenever i open Ryzen Master saying that "Overclocking feature is not supported by the processor". But how, since i've been overclocking this processor for a year without a problem whenever i needed to. Any suggestions?
Asus prime a320m-3
ryzen 5 3600x
16gb ram ddr4
gtx 1060 6gb
Also i've installed the lastest bios verson, installed the chipset drivers and all. Another weird thing is when i open the pc i have no internet connection but that globe. If i don't unplug and plug the cable again i don't have internet.
 
If you follow through guides on overclocking the right way to overclock is to use your BIOS. After the AGESA code updates, A320 chipset boards(much like the B series and X series of chipsetted boards) were allowed to overclock processors and ram in spite of lacking proper VRM cooling. As for your drivers, source the latest chipset drivers from AMD's support site. When installing drivers install them in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator.

And another weird thing is that everytime i open the pc after this reinstall i don't have internet connection. It only shows the globe and i have to unplug the cable and plug it again to have internet. It's really weird
That can be an indication of a corrupt installer or something going amiss during OS install or a hardware failure. You're getting internet access via WiFi or Ethernet?

As for the OS, where did you source the ISO for creating your bootable installer?
 
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If you follow through guides on overclocking the right way to overclock is to use your BIOS. After the AGESA code updates, A320 chipset boards(much like the B series and X series of chipsetted boards) were allowed to overclock processors and ram in spite of lacking proper VRM cooling. As for your drivers, source the latest chipset drivers from AMD's support site. When installing drivers install them in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator.

And another weird thing is that everytime i open the pc after this reinstall i don't have internet connection. It only shows the globe and i have to unplug the cable and plug it again to have internet. It's really weird
That can be an indication of a corrupt installer or something going amiss during OS install or a hardware failure. You're getting internet access via WiFi or Ethernet?

As for the OS, where did you source the ISO for creating your bootable installer?
It may be because i it installed in on MBR? I couldn't install it on GPT whatsoever becuase i was getting an error after booting from usb so it forced me to make it into MBR
 
Unless CSM is left enabled in your BIOS, you're not supposed to be forced into installing the OS on an MBR partition. Source for your ISO?
Maybe it was something related to that version, i don't know. It was the june version. I reinstalled another version, it worked really smooth, no errors, no lack of internet at startup, but the same thing with ryzen master. It says it's not supported by the processor. In bios i don't have any cpu clock ratio to change, only ram memory. I don't understand this because sunday i was looking into ryzen master to see what changes i made so i can do them again after reinstall. I also installed the latest bios version and cpu chipset
 
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Asus prime a320m-3
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Only B and X series chipsets are supposed to allow overclocking of CPU's so it's no mystery you can't on your A320 chipset motherboard. However you managed to do it before is the mystery.

I remember some people saying they were able to overclock their Zen 2 CPU's on A320 way back at their launch. They found it wasn't really overclocking though, it was letting them make the settings changes but it actually did nothing. Didn't have one, couldn't check it out myself. But maybe you had a magical combination of BIOS, Windows drivers, chipset drivers and RyzenMaster app - some recent, some outdated - that did the same. At least, up until you clean-installed Windows and got everything fresh and fully updated.
 
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Only B and X series chipsets are supposed to allow overclocking of CPU's so it's no mystery you can't on your A320 chipset motherboard. However you managed to do it before is the mystery.

I remember some people saying they were able to overclock their Zen 2 CPU's on A320 way back at their launch. They found it wasn't really overclocking though, it was letting them make the settings changes but it actually did nothing. Didn't have one, couldn't check it out myself. But maybe you had a magical combination of BIOS, Windows drivers, chipset drivers and RyzenMaster app - some recent, some outdated - that did the same. At least, up until you clean-installed Windows and got everything fresh and fully updated.
Well it in fact did something performance wise. It wasn't just some numbers being changed. It really feels some performance is lacking now. But even though the mobo doesn't support oc from bios why can't i use ryzen master? It's not the same thing overclocking from bios with overclocking fom RM. This is a mistery because i really like ryzen master and the job it was doing.
 
Well it in fact did something performance wise. It wasn't just some numbers being changed. It really feels some performance is lacking now. But even though the mobo doesn't support oc from bios why can't i use ryzen master? It's not the same thing overclocking from bios with overclocking fom RM. This is a mistery because i really like ryzen master and the job it was doing.
Ryzenmaster won't allow overclocking CPU on A320 chipset motherboards either so it's no mystery it doesn't work now. Why it did before is, again, the only mystery.

Overclocking of Zen2 CPU's on even the most capable hardware has never been all that beneficial anyway and you can still overclock memory which can have significant performance impact. You are getting the performance you paid for.
 
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Ryzenmaster won't allow overclocking CPU on A320 chipset motherboards either so it's no mystery it doesn't work now. Why it did before is, again, the only mystery.

But it's really not worth fretting over since overclocking of Zen2 CPU's on even the most capable hardware has never been all that beneficial and you can still overclock memory which can have significant performance impact. And lastly: you are getting the performance you paid for.
Before when i could oc, red dead redemption was working like a charm, now it's chugging a bit here and there. This is what i said when i stated that it made a difference performance wise. I used to make it go up to 4.2Ghz and 1.4 voltage and it was a bomb. Now i can't anymore
 
Ryzenmaster won't allow overclocking CPU on A320 chipset motherboards either so it's no mystery it doesn't work now. Why it did before is, again, the only mystery.

Overclocking of Zen2 CPU's on even the most capable hardware has never been all that beneficial anyway and you can still overclock memory which can have significant performance impact. You are getting the performance you paid for.
Yeah the motherboard maybe won't allow the oc but what does it have to do with ryzen master? It says it's not compatible with the processor
 
Ryzenmaster won't allow overclocking CPU on A320 chipset motherboards either so it's no mystery it doesn't work now. Why it did before is, again, the only mystery.

Overclocking of Zen2 CPU's on even the most capable hardware has never been all that beneficial anyway and you can still overclock memory which can have significant performance impact. You are getting the performance you paid for.
When i bought the motherboard last summer i could change the core ratio. I know that for sure becuase i worked once with it. I have no idea what happened now
 
Yeah the motherboard maybe won't allow the oc but what does it have to do with ryzen master? It says it's not compatible with the processor
I don't have an a320 motherboard so I can't say it should or shouldn't work with one. But at any rate, I think it's kind of pointless to want to use it with one since it would be useless anyway and can be a drag on performance. It's really intended as a real time overclocking utility for extreme overclocking enthusiasts to use in competitions and demonstrations. Can also use it when tweaking with an overclock before committing it to BIOS settings but then uninstall it to remove the service that can be the drag on performance.

If you're not getting the same performance as before it's probably something messed up in the Windows installation. I'd begin with removing the useless RyzenMaster, then make sure chipset drivers are installed and power plans properly used. Get the chipset drivers from AMD support web site, do not use Asus motherboard utilities to do it.

In fact, uninstall all the Asus motherboard utilities if you have them installed and hope they don't leave behind their services that can also be a drag on performance. I accidentally installed them when I set up my Tuf B550m-Plus and I had to re-install Windows to clean up the mess they left behind. They kept wanting to download and re-install themselves again, some misguided attempts to edit the registry to stop that only left a different set of problems. Luckily the install was fresh (new motherboard) so re-install wasn't that hard and I was smarter so I didn't repeat mistakes and agree to let Asus download it's crapware.
 
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I installed the chipset from asus website :L Though i am running on AMD high performance power plan. Can i delete files from registry if i unistall them? I should have installed them from amd website
 
I installed the chipset from asus website :L Though i am running on AMD high performance power plan. Can i delete files from registry if i unistall them? I should have installed them from amd website
 
I'd just uninstall and reinstall with the package from AMD web site. Don't try editing registry, that's what tripped me up. But actually, since your installation is new anyway you might find it better to just download the Creation Media and create an install USB drive and go at it again. Let it initialize in GPT and format the drive so it installs with proper EFI, system and recovery partitions. Then you can also enable Safe Boot with its enhanced security.

This time, don't let Asus install any of it's utilities if it asks to. I found a setting in my BIOS that turns off it trying to. It's there to basically keep it's utilities up to date and kicks off Windows install to do so. That's essentially a back door to install whatever Asus wants, kind of scary to me so I disabled that setting.

The only Asus drivers I'd install are LAN card and Audio. Although neither are necessary as Windows installs perfectly good default ones.

I've only ever used Rufus when I wanted to create a tiny Windows10 on a USB stick drive. Unless you've need of a complicated installation, like dual-booting another OS, I don't see any reason to use it. That could be part of the performance loss, so basically keeping it simple is a good strategy unless you really need it.
 
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I'd just uninstall and reinstall with the package from AMD web site. Don't try editing registry, that's what tripped me up. But actually, since your installation is new anyway you might find it better to just download the Creation Media and create an install USB drive and go at it again. Let it initialize in GPT and format the drive so it installs with proper EFI, system and recovery partitions. Then you can also enable Safe Boot with its enhanced security.

This time, don't let Asus install any of it's utilities if it asks to. I found a setting in my BIOS that turns off it trying to. It's there to basically keep it's utilities up to date and kicks off Windows install to do so. That's essentially a back door to install whatever Asus wants, kind of scary to me so I disabled that setting.

The only Asus drivers I'd install are LAN card and Audio. Although neither are necessary as Windows installs perfectly good default ones.

I've only ever used Rufus when I wanted to create a tiny Windows10 on a USB stick drive. Unless you've a complicated installation, like dual-booting another OS, I don't see any reason to use it. That could be part of the performance loss, so basically keep it simple is a good strategy unless you really need it.
I reinstalled windows again on wednesday i think but on gpt this time. Don't know why i was getting troubles with it before