Activision Wants Consoles to be Replaced by PCs

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[citation][nom]sdgsdg[/nom]I'm sorry, but obviously none of you can read, and are giving them a bad rap without actually reading what they were saying.Yes, they mentioned that they were not receiving any of the funds for XBOX Live, but the only reason they said that, is because they don't believe Microsoft should be receiving money when you only need an internet connection to connect with other users on a PC.Let me repeat. They NEVER said that they would be charging you instead, they just don't like the limitations that Microsoft has put on their online gaming, which is why they want you to switch to a PC.[/citation]

You must have missed the part where he said Activision could switch to its own pricing model.

That said, I'm not against moving games back to the PC. I just don't want Activision to be in charge of it. The company is greedy and doesn't support innovation. It seems like they would rather release the same game every year than take the time to develop something truly novel and worth purchasing.
 
They didnt want to listen about dedicated servers for pc's, but now they want nothing but pc??? Makes me hate them even more now. Greedy Pig!
 
[citation][nom]jonpaul37[/nom]There are two types of gamers, Console gamers who are uneducated and PC gamers who get better visual quality...[/citation]

You forgot to add the third type of gamer.

A well educated PC gamer who is fully capable of doing anything/everything possible to his PC, yet still enjoys the experience consoles have to offer :) It's something different :)
 
I cannot say whether he intends to charge us more or not. However, it seems from his statement that he's only suggesting we cut out the middleman (XBox Live.) He MIGHT be suggesting Acti gets the $15 instead of MS or he MIGHT simply be suggesting that we would just end up paying $15 less. I know you all hate the guy and think he's a greedy bastard (I don't necessarily disagree) but I'm just pointing out that, whether his intentions are, his statement is simply saying, "We want to cut out the middleman."
 
I do not understand complaining about a man who wants to increase the control his company has over their products and increase profitability. es villainize a man for wanting to make his company money, ie. doing his job.

To me thinking of HP or Dell making a more plug and play type of PC strikes my a s great time to for them to use Linux more and increase Linux gaming. Sounds good to me.
 
Mr Kotick is right, a more open platform modeled after the PC would bring more revenue to the content producers and stop the artificial market hubs created by Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. But ironically unity is the answer to this problem. Here is my plan of attack. Steam already is covering all the PC related platforms (OSX, Linux, MSWin), if steam could agree to open up some of that platform in exchange for getting bigger game players into it like Activision, and EA, they would effective start the plan to overtake the consoles and bring and open platform to the users. In this age, a PC and a console is only different by the place where they are (on the TV versus the desktop). But there is no real difference. The big three actually incur extra costs on the game producers by having then develop a different implementation of the same game to make them work with different platform not to mention the licensing cost.

Now saying that Activision just want more money is stating the obvious. Every body wants more money, I want more money. Having a big game maker backing a more open platform is the only way for consumers will get out of the "walled gardens." An altruistic open source community would never get the marketing push needed to be successful.

And finally, the benefit to the consumer is more innovation, and less overhead. How many people end up having two system to play different games... that is a waste. And who would not have liked to see a wii-mote working on fast hardware like PS3's three years ago when wii-motes were cool.

 
Kotick: Heheh. I've successfully bamboozled those IW schmoes of their millions. But I still don't have enough.

Kotick: But what's this? My Call of Duty game isn't making me money on consoles online. Damn those consoles!

Kotick: But it seems like I can dictate high pricing for PC online usage. All I'd need to do is convince every hapless tom, dick & larry to switch over to PC!

Kotick: Hence I declare: ALL CONSOLES MUST BE ABOLISHED! PUT ALL YOUR BUSINESS INTO PC! AND PAY YOUR TRIBUTE TO ME! ME!! ME!!!

Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft: You wish.

 
Geze all I see are you hippocrites bashing a company that is making sense. I can not vouch for the games, I rarely play any game, but Your playing on a xbox paying those fees, what difference does it make if you pay Microsoft or Activision? I completely do not blame them. Also, if the ycan force consoles out of the picture think of all the money and time they would save just porting for the PC!
 
[citation][nom]ram1009[/nom]I am constantly amazed at how naive most of you are here on this forum. I speculate that the average age must be under 20. Someday many of you will also be in the business world and come to realize that profit is what makes the world go around. It's the responsibility of everybody in business to maximize profit. Demonizing business executives for doing their jobs is, well, naive. The more money companies make the better their product can be. Granted, it doesn't always work out that way but the product that best satisfies it's consumer's needs at the best price will usually win. Game consoles are nothing more than proprietary computers, as is Apple. This si a major reason why we all hate them so much. What this man is supporting benefits all of us. Why curse him for believing he can make a profit by doing so? Many of you would benefit from thinking before responding to an article like this and making yourself appear so ........naive.[/citation]

What is this, someone with a job on Tom's?
Here's a tip kids, programmers expect to be paid for their work, like most adults with jobs. You buy the game, you're paying them for the original game. People sit down and actually get paid to make the game you're playing. Anything that comes after the original game, expansions, maps, ANYTHING, requires ADDITIONAL WORK. That's right, they have to pay people again to make those expansions, so yes, you're going to have to save up your lunch money and pay more for their hard work. They aren't going to make new content for you for free, out of the goodness of their hearts.
As far as subscription fees go, guess what, people also have to make the website you visit for the game, sit around babysitting you as GMs, and maintain the server and website, those don't come free either. Add in server and connection costs and there's your subscription fee.

You can complain about what you're getting in return for those fees, but the game price, expansion price, and subscription price are all going towards having employees, these fees aren't going away. With that being said, I would much rather these fees go towards the developers of the game than the console developer. When developers continue to get money from a game, this allows them to pay their workers to continue to improve and update. When they aren't making income, no one has any reason to make anything new, because they can't pay their employees to do so. Someone mentioned MMORPGs, that's how they work, they keep updating and they keep making money with whatever model they use, if they stop updating then people stop playing and they stop making money. The real question is why console makers think they can charge for providing content they aren't developing. Console makers sell you the hardware, that's all they get paid to do, make the hardware. I don't have to pay Dell to play a PC game on their PC, why should I pay MS to play a game on XBox? Kotick's an idiot, no doubt, but this is what he's saying. He'd prefer the plug and play and affordability of a console, but without the greedy console companies trying to get their cut for making the hardware. Then again, Activision is really more of the publisher than developer, and publishers get just as greedy.
 
Basically he wants to rip people off. What else is new. Good luck with that. I'm sure people would actually pay for it too, because people are idiots and I've lost all hope in humanity. People already pay for Xbox Live, which is already a ripoff. There's so much wrong with this scenario, I don't even know where to begin, so I'll just shake my head sadly instead.
 
finally a company which admits that games for PC are more profitable....the other part which is a no brainer is that games on a PC are much better and easier to develop. it's a lot easier for a company to develop games for PC, since most computers are fairly powerful now.
 
My PC is already going to be next to my other gaming machines anyway. Scam or not, go Activision.
 
This guy is a greedy jerk. So Microsoft provide a great service that people are willing to pay for and he cries foul that Activision wants a piece of it now. How about Activision provide some good services to players rather than extorting them with $15 map packs (things that used to be free) and unfinished games. I bet you any money those maps were simply held back from the original release so they could be charged out as DLC, heck some of the maps are COD4 remakes!
 
I'm thinking about going to console. Playing multiplayer pc games that are hacked to death by cheaters gets old. After watching my friend play MW2 on 360 , I have become a convert. It looked as good on my 42" tv with a Xbox360 as on my 24" monitor with 8800gtx sli. The hacks were slim to none on the console, and I'm pretty sure not one publisher really gives a hack less about cheating hacks on PC MW2 hacking was the last straw.
 
[citation][nom]kronos_cornelius[/nom]Mr Kotick is right, a more open platform modeled after the PC would bring more revenue to the content producers and stop the artificial market hubs created by Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. But ironically unity is the answer to this problem. Here is my plan of attack. Steam already is covering all the PC related platforms (OSX, Linux, MSWin), if steam could agree to open up some of that platform in exchange for getting bigger game players into it like Activision, and EA, they would effective start the plan to overtake the consoles and bring and open platform to the users. In this age, a PC and a console is only different by the place where they are (on the TV versus the desktop). But there is no real difference. The big three actually incur extra costs on the game producers by having then develop a different implementation of the same game to make them work with different platform not to mention the licensing cost. Now saying that Activision just want more money is stating the obvious. Every body wants more money, I want more money. Having a big game maker backing a more open platform is the only way for consumers will get out of the "walled gardens." An altruistic open source community would never get the marketing push needed to be successful.And finally, the benefit to the consumer is more innovation, and less overhead. How many people end up having two system to play different games... that is a waste. And who would not have liked to see a wii-mote working on fast hardware like PS3's three years ago when wii-motes were cool.[/citation]

I think you are missing the bigger picture here. Take a step back for a second and look at it this way:

1.) Currently gamers do not (and never had to) pay regular subscription fees to play games *unless* they were MMOs which have massive centralised hardware upkeep and content updates.
2.) Microsoft is the only one charging gamers a subscription, which is to their platform *service*. Apparantly the xbox live gaming service is a great service and people are happy to pay their $15 a month. You are confusing Microsoft's fees for the platform service and generalising this as a good thing overall. This is XBOX only. PS3, Wii (I think) and PC dont have this limitation.
3.) Therefore what you are talking about doing by combining all gaming platforms under one umbrella is actually promoting the Microsoft "pay a monthly fee to be on the platform" concept across ALL gaming platforms which, as it is currently, do not suffer from such a fee!

Hence it is not a good idea. It not only limits competition but it provides the means for greedy corporations to lock gamers into a fee that they currently do not have to pay, and have never had to pay. Distributing servers to free enterprise with advertising (as it works currently with dedicated servers hosted by ISPs etc.) means more choice for gamers.

Microsoft are greedy, and Activision are just jealous they cant have a part of it. Dont buy Activision's BS for one second about doing things right for the gamer, that is just their glossed up sales polish to convince you its not a pig with lipstick.
 
Yea, I really don't care if Microsoft or Activison gets the doe for an online subscription. But It would be next to a miracel for them to break into the PC market (and charge) with Steam offering cheap games and free online gameing to millions of PC gamers, myself included. It just makes me sick to know that the CEO's of these companies that produce rocking games are so greedy to now only charge 2x the going rate for less than stellar map packs, but that they are so open about their out of control greed. These guys need a reality check.
 
I do believe the consoles are now a bottleneck in being able to cross-platform any titles. Two words: Crysis 2. Maybe killing off the console market may not be such a bad idea, eventually...just, not yet.
 
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