Adobe Slams Apple for iPad's Lack of Flash

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[citation][nom]SAL-e[/nom]For many years Adobe flash was supporting only Windows. Even today flash is not working very well on Mac OS-X and Linux. Compare to flash on Windows the flash on other platforms is beta quality at best and still missing features. I think Adobe tried to build nice monopoly and failed. First is the Silverlight from MS, now HTML5 is coming and now Apple is trying to kill flash. Now Adobe has changed the tune and start opening their proprietary specs, but I thing it is a bit to late.Other problem with flash are the annoying advertisements. I have no problem receiving ads as long they don't take too much of my time and screen space. Now I am using "NoScript" and flash is disabled by default. I only white-list media player. Web sites that are build all most entirely on flash get ignored. Flash is becoming a victim of aggressive marketing and maximizing a profits .... it become unwanted peace of software on my computers![/citation]

+1, not to mention that it is a bloated resource hog.
 
[citation][nom]richpmd[/nom]Flash is essentially obsolete resource hogging tech. It will probably be supported in some way before long but with the advent of HTML5 its days are numbered.[/citation]
Agreed. However, I did notice a bit of a improvement with GPU acceleration (in 10.1 Beta) with my nVidia cards (8800GS/9800GTX/8400GS) (haven't tried it on my main gaming rig yet with 4870). Especially when viewing things in Full screen and in HD (youtube).

More benches: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3678&p=2
 
[citation][nom]Shadow703793[/nom]Agreed. However, I did notice a bit of a improvement with GPU acceleration (in 10.1 Beta) with my nVidia cards (8800GS/9800GTX/8400GS) (haven't tried it on my main gaming rig yet with 4870). Especially when viewing things in Full screen and in HD (youtube).More benches: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3678&p=2[/citation]

They should have done it 3 years ago, along with an x64 version.
 
Flash is a proprietary technology that hasn't been updated in years, why would anybody want it on a platform in 2010? This is the decade of HTML5.
 
[citation][nom]m-manla[/nom]A little sad that Apple isn't supporting flash. It will have a lot of angry customers.[/citation]
These are the same concerns that were voiced about the iPhone as far back as 2007, yet despite predictions of doom and gloom the iPhone seems to have done okay. The inherent problem with a Flash client on the iPhone, and I imagine the same goes for iPad is that it interprets separately downloaded code, which is forbidden by Apple's developer agreement. Apple's agreement reads, in part, "an Application may not itself install or launch other executable code by any means.” 3.3.2 forbids a generic Flash Player app which allows you to download directly to your iPhone games and utilities written in Flash. This isn't some conspiracy by Apple against Adobe flash, it’s just business. It’s kind of weird defending Apple especially since I’m a PC...lol
 
Well I really really hate flash so I don't mind at all! Just means all the ads won't show and your CPU won't be utilized 100%. Why do you think flashblock is popular?
 
[citation][nom]trih[/nom]Well I really really hate flash so I don't mind at all! Just means all the ads won't show and your CPU won't be utilized 100%. Why do you think flashblock is popular?[/citation]
I guess flashblock is popular amongst people who don't play online games or watch videos.
 
It is simple: Apple don´t want you to play free games in your IPad, so that´s why the IPad can not run Flash. It´s all about market. Apple always did that, and they are still growing. So, it is not surprising, and it is not wrong, because I´m sure they will make more money without Flash.
 
EREADERS will be the death of your favorite book store.
do you people really want to live in a world with no stores ???
I do not support these DRM devices.I do not support making books the new MP3
 
[citation][nom]hillarymakesmecry[/nom]Aww, Adobe isn't getting their slice of the pie so they're whining? Adobe charges to use it's products. Apparently Apple thinks they charge more than it's worth.[/citation]
The website with flash content will still exist, so Adobe isn't losing any money. The flash reading software for the browser is free so Adobe isn't making any money. Therefore money is not a factor.
 
[citation][nom]tipoo[/nom]There is no reason why they CANT support it, since far less powerful smartphones already do. But it conflicts with their multimedia sales business. How many people would buy episodes of their favorite TV shows from iTunes when they can just stream it from one of the hundreds of available sites online for free? Or why pay for games from iTunes with all the Flash games out there? Apple wants to control everything you do with the device, and that is lame.[/citation]
Well said! +1
 
Funny that adobe is so upset... considering how they regularly IGNORE THE LINUX MARKET. Flash is unusable on x64 linux. It crashes firefox and chrome. And the worst part is: they know about it and dont care.
 
If I could install linux on the device I might actually be sold. Then I can actually get Flash working which is a total lolercoaster that you'd go to linux in order to get Flash to work on the device.
 
Good for Apple!! I work for a very large corporation (over 20,000 employees nationwide) and flash is not installed on corporate PCs. Most users do not have privileges to install it. The world does not end because Adobe says so. So I miss some sites, so what? In fact I've un-installed it on my home PCs. Better than having all that bloatware, auto-update agents, browser toolbar adding software installed anyway. Maybe if "A-don't-be" went back to products that only did what they were advertised to do, and not make me install a proprietary download tool that only works with their software I would consider re-installing it.
I don't play on-line games, and if I want to watch a movie, I'll use media player, powerDVD or turn on my television.
 
Maybe if Adobe wasn't such a security hazard then Apple would implement them. Apple's iPad to be the "greatest best experience"...yeah, we'll see about that...fail
 
[citation][nom]summitflier[/nom]Good for Apple!! I work for a very large corporation (over 20,000 employees nationwide) and flash is not installed on corporate PCs. Most users do not have privileges to install it. The world does not end because Adobe says so. So I miss some sites, so what? In fact I've un-installed it on my home PCs. Better than having all that bloatware, auto-update agents, browser toolbar adding software installed anyway. Maybe if "A-don't-be" went back to products that only did what they were advertised to do, and not make me install a proprietary download tool that only works with their software I would consider re-installing it.I don't play on-line games, and if I want to watch a movie, I'll use media player, powerDVD or turn on my television.[/citation]
Corporate PCs don't have it installed because they don't want company bandwidth hogged my streaming videos, plus you shouldn't be watching videos or playing online games when you are working so I agree with that.

But the iPad is not a corporate work device.

It is a consumer entertainment gadget.

Plus, Adobe didn't force the world to use it's flash system to encode online content, that is the fault of the website owners. Youtube or Candystand didn't have their arms twisted by Adobe to use flash, neither did any other game or video site.

You may call it bloatware but let's be objective here, there are several other streaming media types out there for various services. First example Apple Trailers requires Quicktime to be installed, there are even some sites that still use RealPlayer for their streaming movies. If you didn't have bundled with iTunes you can download Quicktime by itself at 30.9mb, after install the Quicktime folder occupies around 76mb. Realplayer I didn't even attempt to download as it asks for registration information before it gives me a free trial, but an old version I found was around 11mb. Adobe Flash Player is 1.8mb and I can untick the option of the toolbar.

Flash player is not bloatware, to not include it on a consumer entertainment device is indefensible.
 
"Adobe Slams Apple for iPad's Lack of Flash"

First off I can't stand Apple but, maybe instead of Adobe bashing Apple for lack of flash support they should focus on things they can control like finally adding 64 bit support to Windows and Mac. Oddly this is a situation where I'm happy they didn't add support for it simply because Adobe needed a good kick in the rear and most Apple users are too smug to notice or care anyway.
 
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