Alchemy level

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When should one begin to use a Journeyman's or Master's Alchemy equipment
(such as Mortar and Pestle, Retort, Calcinator, Alembic)?

I have an alchemy level of 62, should I begin to make potions using
Journeyman's, master's, or continue with apprentice equipment till a higher
level? At what alchemy levels are usage of these recommended?



Also, in a previous subject somebody mentioned making restore health potions
that last 500sec, how and using what ingredients, equipment and alchemy
level?



Moo
 
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In article <40f21527$0$16107$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Moo wrote:
> When should one begin to use a Journeyman's or Master's Alchemy equipment
> (such as Mortar and Pestle, Retort, Calcinator, Alembic)?

As soon as you can acquire one.

> I have an alchemy level of 62, should I begin to make potions using
> Journeyman's, master's, or continue with apprentice equipment till a higher
> level? At what alchemy levels are usage of these recommended?
>

The various equipment acts as a multiplier or divisor for various aspects of
the potion.

>
> Also, in a previous subject somebody mentioned making restore health potions
> that last 500sec, how and using what ingredients, equipment and alchemy
> level?
>

Intelligence is a factor; you can make fortify intelligence potions out of
ash yam and bloat(?); and the fortify effects stack. Swig em back until
your intelligence is in the thousands; and then start making batches of
disgustingly powerful potions.
 
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> > Also, in a previous subject somebody mentioned making restore health
potions
> > that last 500sec, how and using what ingredients, equipment and alchemy
> > level?
> >
>
> Intelligence is a factor; you can make fortify intelligence potions out of
> ash yam and bloat(?); and the fortify effects stack. Swig em back until
> your intelligence is in the thousands; and then start making batches of
> disgustingly powerful potions.

But using Grandmaster equipment gives better potions right? I believe this
is what OP is asking about in first place.
 
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"AseStar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
news:r%7Kc.498$Cc.113588@juliett.dax.net...
> > > Also, in a previous subject somebody mentioned making restore health
> potions
> > > that last 500sec, how and using what ingredients, equipment and
alchemy
> > > level?
> > >
> >
> > Intelligence is a factor; you can make fortify intelligence potions out
of
> > ash yam and bloat(?); and the fortify effects stack. Swig em back until
> > your intelligence is in the thousands; and then start making batches of
> > disgustingly powerful potions.
>
> But using Grandmaster equipment gives better potions right? I believe this
> is what OP is asking about in first place.
>
>

I heard about than Nevaria of White Heaven (I highly doubt I spelt that
right) in Balmore has infinite supply of both Ash Yam AND Bloat. However,
Here she only has Bloat. No Ash Yam. So does some other NPC have infinite
supply of Ash Yam? I'm using Morrowind + both exp. + Better Heads mod pack.

Thanks,
~NHacker
 
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"Primoz Jeras" <snezana.jeras@siol.net> wrote in message
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>
> "AseStar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
> news:r%7Kc.498$Cc.113588@juliett.dax.net...
> > > > Also, in a previous subject somebody mentioned making restore health
> > potions
> > > > that last 500sec, how and using what ingredients, equipment and
> alchemy
> > > > level?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Intelligence is a factor; you can make fortify intelligence potions
out
> of
> > > ash yam and bloat(?); and the fortify effects stack. Swig em back
until
> > > your intelligence is in the thousands; and then start making batches
of
> > > disgustingly powerful potions.
> >
> > But using Grandmaster equipment gives better potions right? I believe
this
> > is what OP is asking about in first place.
> >
> >
>
> I heard about than Nevaria of White Heaven (I highly doubt I spelt that
> right) in Balmore has infinite supply of both Ash Yam AND Bloat. However,
> Here she only has Bloat. No Ash Yam. So does some other NPC have infinite
> supply of Ash Yam? I'm using Morrowind + both exp. + Better Heads mod
pack.
>
> Thanks,
> ~NHacker
>
>
took me a while to find one myself
sadrith mora
one level below mages guild is a room with two people
the one off to the left by an alter has infinite of BOTH
 
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"Andrew E. Wiggin" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Primoz Jeras" <snezana.jeras@siol.net> wrote in message
> news:lStKc.209$F6.50128@news.siol.net...
> >
> > "AseStar" <a s e s t a r @ s t a r t . n o> wrote in message
> > news:r%7Kc.498$Cc.113588@juliett.dax.net...
> > > > > Also, in a previous subject somebody mentioned making restore
health
> > > potions
> > > > > that last 500sec, how and using what ingredients, equipment and
> > alchemy
> > > > > level?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Intelligence is a factor; you can make fortify intelligence potions
> out
> > of
> > > > ash yam and bloat(?); and the fortify effects stack. Swig em back
> until
> > > > your intelligence is in the thousands; and then start making batches
> of
> > > > disgustingly powerful potions.
> > >
> > > But using Grandmaster equipment gives better potions right? I believe
> this
> > > is what OP is asking about in first place.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I heard about than Nevaria of White Heaven (I highly doubt I spelt that
> > right) in Balmore has infinite supply of both Ash Yam AND Bloat.
However,
> > Here she only has Bloat. No Ash Yam. So does some other NPC have
infinite
> > supply of Ash Yam? I'm using Morrowind + both exp. + Better Heads mod
> pack.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ~NHacker
> >
> >
> took me a while to find one myself
> sadrith mora
> one level below mages guild is a room with two people
> the one off to the left by an alter has infinite of BOTH
>
>


Bah im there like every day 🙁
I killed the other one.
Good I didn't this one.
 
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"Primoz Jeras" <snezana.jeras@siol.net> wrote in message news:<cPvKc.221$F6.51270@news.siol.net>...
>>
> Bah im there like every day 🙁
> I killed the other one.
> Good I didn't this one.


Several of the tavern keepers in Balmora have ash yams. I think 8
plates is one. Don't forget tavern keepers when looking for
ingredients.
 
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:15:15 +0200, "Primoz Jeras"
<snezana.jeras@siol.net> wrote:

>> But using Grandmaster equipment gives better potions right? I believe this
>> is what OP is asking about in first place.

Yup - and if you do the official Propylon mod (or simply visit all 10
propylon locations without the mod) you will find a character you can
bribe to 100% and get such a set from. Warning: she will attack on
sight so you will have to have a calm humanoid spell read.

(I once got no fewer than 13 GM alchemy sets before I got
bored...obviously I had more money than I would ever use when I met
her)

As for NPCs with Ash Yam and Bloat try downstairs from the Sadrith
Mora Mage Guild....

>I heard about than Nevaria of White Heaven (I highly doubt I spelt that
>right) in Balmore has infinite supply of both Ash Yam AND Bloat. However,
>Here she only has Bloat. No Ash Yam. So does some other NPC have infinite
>supply of Ash Yam? I'm using Morrowind + both exp. + Better Heads mod pack.
>
>Thanks,
> ~NHacker
>
 
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:28:26 +0200, "Primoz Jeras"
<snezana.jeras@siol.net> wrote:

>> took me a while to find one myself
>> sadrith mora
>> one level below mages guild is a room with two people
>> the one off to the left by an alter has infinite of BOTH
>
>Bah im there like every day 🙁
>I killed the other one.
>Good I didn't this one.

You killed either of these?

Those two plus Whitehaven are the most useful NPCs in the game with
the POSSIBLE exception of Creeper!
 
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On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 08:01:09 GMT, "Michael W. Ryder"
<mwryder@_worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Are you talking about the alchemist master in the far north with all the
>orcs outside? I never had any problems with her and never had to do any
>bribing or calming.

Really? Very interesting :)

>>>I heard about than Nevaria of White Heaven (I highly doubt I spelt that
>>>right) in Balmore has infinite supply of both Ash Yam AND Bloat. However,
>>>Here she only has Bloat. No Ash Yam. So does some other NPC have infinite
>>>supply of Ash Yam? I'm using Morrowind + both exp. + Better Heads mod pack.

Nope - Whitehaven doesn't have infinite amounts of both Ash Yam and
Bloat but one of the gents in the Sadrith Mora Imperial Cult (directly
underneath the SM Mage Guild which is pretty easy to get to) DOES.

I assume you know about the trick to buy/sell/buy/sell etc. to get
these merchants' inventories up to a suitable level? In other words,
if you buy 5 bloat, say goodbye, immediately sell those 5 bloat back
there will be 10 bloat available for sale next time? Done in this way
you can readily get them up to 100+ of any component you want. The
trick is they don't do that with EVERY item they sell but you can
easily find out which they do by buying all their components and then
selling back what they have more of when you get to them.

If you have say 100 each of marshmerrow and saltrice you're in a good
position since if for instance you have alchemy at 20 and you make ALL
of them you'll end up with 15-25 potions plus probably 4 or 5 points
of skill. This is useful in the early game if you want to get your
intelligence up since alchemy is tied to intelligence. The actual
potions you get from this method can either be used or sold of course.

It is in fact quite easy to get your skill up to 60+ by level 4 though
done correctly you should get +5 intelligence every level. This is a
big deal for a mage.

(This DOES take a reasonable amount of cash but if you've got Tribunal
loaded you'll get plenty the first or second time you rest if you kill
the assassin and sell the armor)

In similar manner you can do the same thing with armorer skill and
strength - I never pay a smith to repair my weapons - I *do* buy lots
of hammers and repair tongs. I never have cast disintegrate armor on
opponents just to spoil their armor to get my hammers busy after I
kill them BUT I _have_ drunk a long-term healing potion (say Restore
Health 25 points for 500 seconds) when faced with low level creatures
like rats and spiders and gone for dinner and found my armor skill up
4 or 5 when I got back. You have to choose your location carefully
(else you'll wind up dead) but my favorite here is just outside the
entrance to the Morag Tong main hideout among the crates so the rats
can't get behind you.

The only one of these that is REMOTELY a cheat is the alchemy thing
but all of these are straight keyboard activities which don't involve
the console at all. My attitude on the buy/sell/buy/sell stunt is that
I could go their 20 times and do the same thing so what is the
difference but a preferred Bethesda solution would be to require the
sold-out merchant to wait 24 hours before re-stocking - this is what
happens with Creeper's cash so it should not be too onerous a patch
for them.
 
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"Andrew E. Wiggin" wrote:
> who has a lot of repair tongs?

A Redguard female armorer at an outdoor market in Sadrith Mora. I think I
have run into a few others, but she was the first I found and the one I
remember.

--
Rick Cavalla
rac22@NO.erols.SPAM.com
==========================
"Hell, everything's legal in Mexico. It's the American way."
 
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"Rick Cavalla" <rac22@erols.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> "Andrew E. Wiggin" wrote:
> > who has a lot of repair tongs?
>
> A Redguard female armorer at an outdoor market in Sadrith Mora. I think
I
> have run into a few others, but she was the first I found and the one I
> remember.
>
> --
> Rick Cavalla
> rac22@NO.erols.SPAM.com
> ==========================
> "Hell, everything's legal in Mexico. It's the American way."
>
>

There are a few random locations, mostly in towns with
an public anvil and furnace, plus some tools, tongs or
apprentices hammers, free to use

merlin