AMD Claims 'Fastest Graphics Card in the World'

[dark_lord69]

That card costs too much for me...
Perhaps if I was rich.. Even then I think I would feel like I am throwing money away. One or two steps down could save hundreds and take only a minimal performance hit.

 

[Anomalyx]

The only thing exciting to me, someone who doesn't live with their rich parents, about such an expensive card like this being released is that the price of the "normal people" cards might go down...
Nah, who am I kidding? It's a completely different market. Meaning this release is worthless to me, despite always buying ATI (nVidia cards are NEVER stable for me. Don't know if it's just me, but I always get driver crashes galore whenever using one).

 

[need4speeds]

I have two systems with 4870's, they seem to play games well. one system has a old 2mb cache 939-x2-4400+@2.4, the other is a 2mb cache 6000+@3.1
Both run winxp-pro. the 939 is my living room pc with a 46" 1080p.

I found on the ati cards that running with the catalyst setting "Enable adaptive anti-anliasing" box checked and the slider to "quality" makes a bigger difference than running the "anti-anliasing" above 2x.
I also run the "Mipmap Detail Level" slider at "Performance".
I run the "Anisotropic filtering" at 4x.

I check the "use custom settings" box so games run my settings and not game settings.
I also enable "vsync" so the card does not work for nothing to go above 60fps.

In each screen they give you a image picture that shows you how the image looks with each setting. You can see what settings make a visual difference or not. At high resolutions like 1080p, setting the aa/af higher makes little or no difference and you are just killing your fps for nothing. Setting all the game's setting eye-candy higher helps more than this setting. Setting it at a fixed setting forces some older games that run without aa/af to have some filtering.

I wonder how high this card can clock to with water cooling. Too bad they don't offer it in a water blocked model. I doubt many will want to run it on air anyway. If you made a water cooled sb/hd-6990 system it would overclock well and still be reasonably quiet.
Why is there no water blocked version?

 

[Guest]

@we_san

there is no such thing as a professional anti-alias engineer, the sarcasm in his post was paradoxically time stopping, the correct response would be to laugh

 

[captaincharisma]

so what both companies say that almost every month AMD has the fastest card in the world for the next 6 months till nvidia comes out with something better. and sometimes bith companies just come out with just 1-2% faster so they can make the claim.

and if you want a noisey card I had the nvidia FX5500 series that always sounded like a hair dryer going off

i might go AMD in the future but i may just be lazy and get nvidia again just so i don't have to uninstall and reinstall drivers

 

[machvelocy]

*ignoring fanboys spouting nonsense*


im gonna get one of these if a 3rd party manufacturer uses a watercooling heatsink

 

[ProDigit10]

this new graphics card actually is a fancy central heating element.
You use it in the winter to convert your room into a sauna.

 

[blairco]

Raw power, AMD and ATI are winners, no doubt about it.

But in practical usage and in taking advantage of the newer technologies that are making this new gen of video cards and CPUs so appealing, nVidia and Intel still crush their competition.

Why wield a claymore if you can't even lift a broadsword?

 

[andy5174]

Great, an AMD fanboy mod came in and deleted the following post which shows AMD sucks. I knew it would happen so I saved a copy of it.
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Even nVidia card's image quality in DX9 is on par with AMD cards in DX11
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/aliens-vs-predator-directx-11-benchmark,2606-2.html
GTX260 in DX9 v.s. HD5870 in DX9/11

AMD's MLAA anti-aliasing sucks!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-6850-renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market/5

So what’s the catch? The catch is that it’s a post-processing filter; it’s not genuine anti-aliasing as we know it because it’s not operating on the scene as its being rendered. Where traditional AA uses the rendering data to determine exactly what, where, and how to anti-alias things, MLAA is effectively a best-guess at anti-aliasing the final image. Based on what we’ve seen so far we expect that it’s going to try to anti-alias things from time to time that don’t need it, and that the resulting edges won’t be quite as well blended as with MSAA/SSAA. SSAA is still going to offer the best image quality (and this is something AMD has available under DX9), while MSAA + transparency/adaptive anti-aliasing will be the next best method.

AMD's image quality cheat:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/exploring-ati-image-quality-optimizations/

 

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@andy5174

oh dear god you saved your own post just in case...... it would appear your prepared to take it to it's finality, quick everyone agree with andy5174 before he blows himself up

 

[andy5174]

AMD never sell bargains. AMD's CPU and GPU are cheaper than Intel and nVidia AT THE MOMENT simply because they are worse. Remember how AMD ripped you off with Athlon X2 back in 2005 when they were better than the so failed Pentium D?!

BTW, Intel is actually the one that offers the best bang for the buck in CPU market now.
An 2500K can be OCed to 4.4GHz without requiring an insanely expensive high end cooler($80+); and it crushes any non-server AMD CPU easily.

 

[stryk55]

Andy, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?

If you prefer nVidia for a certain reason, buy nVidia. If others want an AMD card for another reason, let them have it. If a company makes a claim about performance that isn't the full truth, people are going to ignore it or make a different consideration about their purchase. It is up to each individual to research about a potential product if they so wish. No one asked for you to proselytize for any specific solution.

I feel sorry that you got so riled up about this issue, because there are so many more important things to devote time and energy towards.

 

[Guest]

this is almost as amusing as watching martin sheen........

 

[silverblue]

Charlie? 😛

 

[andy5174]

@andy5174

oh dear god you saved your own post just in case...... it would appear your prepared to take it to it's finality, quick everyone agree with andy5174 before he blows himself up

There is in fact a much simpler way. Just ask AMD fanboy mods to ban all peoples who don't think AMD is better which is the truth at the moment! Their personality stinks anyway and won't feel guilty doing so.

Is this website hosted in China BTW?

 

[silverblue]

But but but... AMD does have the two fastest consumer gaming cards available. And most of us really, really want to see the 590 and the inevitable comparisons, fanboi and non-fanboi alike, even if people, including myself, predict the 590 won't be two 580s on the same board, much like the 295 wasn't the two fastest single CPUs available.

If you think this place is run by "AMD fanboy mods", leave. Go. Depart. Why waste your time if it's that bad and the audience is non-receptive? Seriously, you're just going to look like a troll and a fanboy wrapped up in one bundle, and that's even worse than the people you're crusading against.

 

[andy5174]

Andy, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?

If you prefer nVidia for a certain reason, buy nVidia. If others want an AMD card for another reason, let them have it. If a company makes a claim about performance that isn't the full truth, people are going to ignore it or make a different consideration about their purchase. It is up to each individual to research about a potential product if they so wish. No one asked for you to proselytize for any specific solution.

I feel sorry that you got so riled up about this issue, because there are so many more important things to devote time and energy towards.

AMD fanboys actually devote much more time and energy in this than me. They keep creating new account for childish purpose, trolling and insulting.

 

[andy5174]

But but but... AMD does have the two fastest consumer gaming cards available. And most of us really, really want to see the 590 and the inevitable comparisons, fanboi and non-fanboi alike, even if people, including myself, predict the 590 won't be two 580s on the same board, much like the 295 wasn't the two fastest single CPUs available.

If you think this place is run by "AMD fanboy mods", leave. Go. Depart. Why waste your time if it's that bad and the audience is non-receptive? Seriously, you're just going to look like a troll and a fanboy wrapped up in one bundle, and that's even worse than the people you're crusading against.

This is not run by AMD fanboy mods only, BUT AMD fanboy mods are the only ones that would come in and do such a stinky thing.

 

[andy5174]

since yesterday all this annoying discussion about image quality and started to make a real investigation on image quañity and saw that GURU3D.com makes comparisons of games on a daily basis

they concluded that their is no real difference between graphic cards and even in the so called cheat mode made by ATI which AMD calls "Optimized" and they show 2560x1600 (highest res) pictures and not Gif or JPG which everyone knows that are compressed and from reading diferent forums... concluded

GET A GOOD MONITOR AND LEARN HOW TO CALIBRATE IT NVIDIA FANBOYS

was considering buying an Nvidia 560TI but the idea of belonging to a Nagging club of fanboys... no thanks ill get me a 6950

LOL!

Who cares?! It's your money instead of mine.

Go ahead! No one can stop a pig eating trash, isn't it?

 

[verbalizer]

 

[mrface]

Keep it civil guys or this articles comments will be closed.

 

[silverblue]

[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]AMD fanboys actually devote much more time and energy in this than me. They keep creating new account for childish purpose, trolling and insulting.[/citation]

That's because you're making yourself a prime target for ridicule, and you really put your foot in it when you came out with "I suggest TOM not letting accounts with less than 500 points comment on any article, because most of these accounts were obviously created for trolling!". Cue floodgates. What about people with 250? 350? 499?

AMD cheated on a driver setting then held their hands up when caught and changed it back. I doubt they'll do it again anytime soon. I really don't know why you're judging them over this particular episode when nVidia have done the same, if not worse, in the past. People will only see this as you defending your purchase.

One final point... post count doesn't make a man. It would be better if you could multi-quote and cluster your arguments into fewer posts so we don't have to keep scrolling.

 

[kokin]

Hmm I wonder why my comments never make it on the comments section. Do you I have to post in the forum itself?

But andy5174, are you purposely commenting just to piss people off? I'd understand if you actually claim you're a Nvidia fanboy, but you have not done so, so I'm assuming you're just trolling everyone. Go play your games instead of giving companies free marketing, unless you're actually being paid?

From my previous comment:
I'd rather play my games instead of wasting my time sitting there being (un)happy about my parts' companies. It's great you're a big fan of Nvidia and Intel, but is there a reason for you to go all out on a forum that won't really care for your efforts?

 

[of the way]

Oh my bloody goodness Andy5174. Please please stop posting on this topic. Or at least take a break until you can calm down. Just take a breather. You don't like AMD, fine, everyone can see that. People won't convince you otherwise, just like you won't convince people with what you're saying. I'm sure there are better places to have a Green vs Red fight. Anyone want to get back to the topic?

 

[kokin]

There's been a trend of GPUs getting larger in the current/past generations. When is it going to stop? I'd rather see a shrink in size/temps/power consumption as the performance of current/past gen cards are already maxing out most games.