jdwii :
Hafijur still trolling i see with nonsense that even game dev's prove him wrong, Hafijur what do you do for a living? Do you have more knowledge then gaming developers?
How could he not troll !?... the major fault is not his is, are articles like this http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Kaveri-Shipments-Slip-Into-2014-Speculation-Rampant-on-Unannounced-Products1/ ... incredibly biased, with peremptory generalized absolute statements based on windows TM fake and biased benchmarks, that are not even representative of the "common windows software" ppl use AT ALL, much less of other OSes and environments. Nevertheless
useful idiots always want something "absolute" to grab on (wisdom and truth doesn't fit, if slight more complex and nothing of absolute), and most of times end up thinking they have the greatest when in fact most of what they run in their systems (common software) is faster on the hardware they think is much inferior LOL
If holding Kaveri back a few months gave AMD the time it needed to further improve the core, and the end result is a chip that's 10-15% faster clock-for-clock than Piledriver as opposed to 8-11%, then there's no downside here. If it helps AMD ensure that the chip yields well at high frequency or low power consumption, that's all to the good. In the grand scheme of things, moving the launch from late November to early January isn't going to hurt the company's sales much, but it may lead to significant improvements in the final product.
Because ultimately, that's what this is about. AMD needs Kaveri to hit, and hit big. While there's no chance of closing the gap between Piledriver and Haswell in a single leap, a 10-15% IPC gain would put Piledriver's efficiency back at Thuban/K10 levels (but at a significantly higher clock speed). At that point, AMD's quad-cores stop being outperformed on a regular basis by Intel dual-core chips and the CPU side of the APU equation gets a decided kick in the pants.
Piledriver can be already ~10% better than K10 for many jobs at the same number of cores and at the same clock(HPC), and you can't simply detach the clock ability and MULTITHREADING from this design, is embedded to the bone, and in true and clear a 15% improvement for SR will put it ahead of Hasfail (less than 10% improvement for a toc) at the same clock and number of threads... but i'm also quite convinced the issue is being addressed in the next crop of benchmark software (not hardware) lol
For normal usage it means next to nothing, because even today the "feel" and real race speed (not qualifying benchmarks on biased conditions) on AMD and Intel is practically the same, totally indistinguishable in the all common tasks of a desktop system . "Compute" (OpenCL etc) and heterogeneous yes... those could mean much much more..
But if e-pennis means anything... we can say AMD has the crown of the fastest commercial chip ( buying a sports car you wont argue about mileage or noise or price, the same logic seems to have influenced AMD), arguably, but yes, in actuality and in fact, AMD has the
"fastest commercial PC CPU" around (OC other tweaks are after market add-ons)... doesn't mean more than exactly that...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?286815-AMD-FX-9590-in-FlanK3rs-hands-and-in-review
But back to the psyche work... if anyone believes that *bold* uber hogwash statement in that quoted part of http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Kaveri-Shipments-Slip-Into-2014-Speculation-Rampant-on-Unannounced-Products1/... how can he not troll ??
"Realizing" or "coming to grips", that after some auto praising his decisions in forums and are only blind biased "other" funboys that fail to see the light and the genius of his choices... and *Free Advertising* is a self aggrandizing phenomena, is not about truth... then the only choice left is trolling no matter what, realizing or admitting otherwise, is admitting to himself he has been fooled and he is stupid (many egos just can't stand that, without severe consequences ).
He could loosen up quite a bit... he shouldn't have to feel like a fool, the world is full of deceptions even wise ones can fall, only what it takes is a glimpse at politics. (commercial "politics" is not that different)