AMD FX-8150 Review: From Bulldozer To Zambezi To FX

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I was waiting for BD for ages, then gave up about 6 months ago. Just looked it up again and saw an 8100 for sale, but from what I'm hearing, there weren't any advantages in holding out for BD. I'm happy I gave up waiting and got my 2500k 3 months ago. I was telling people in the forums it would probably be a flop and everyone kept telling me how it would be revolutionary and make Intel cringe. Guess not, and so happy I didn't wait and switched back to Intel. For years AMD blasted Intel about HT and kept saying real cores are better than virtual cores, yet BD modules are not really 2 full cores each, but kinda. The specs aren't spectacular either way, my x4 965 still comes close to the benches and my 2500k bests it most of the time on stock speeds.

I hope after the Phenoms get phased out, the BDs drop the prices to be the best budget CPU... because it ain't "really" 8 cores, seeing that 4 "real" cores or 4 "real" cores with 4 "virtual cores" still beat it in performance AND price!
 
Man... I had extra $$ back in 2009 and built my wife and myself each i7-950's (1366) and for the first time went Intel. Was going to make these our secondary computers when Bulldozer came out, but now, I'm intel hooked. Ivy is now the way I'll go for our new primary gaming rigs. Although, I've seen no reason to upgrade even with BF3.
 
[citation][nom]mapesdhs[/nom]So when the Phenom2 came out, I wasn't able to use it on my AM2 mbdbecause?... (ASUS never bothered releasing a BIOS update; Asrockreleased relevant BIOS updates for their boards in 10 minutes, and btw,for those who keep saying, Asrock is not part of ASUS anymore, hasn'tbeen for a while)AMD is just as guilty at releasing CPUs which mbds can't use. [/citation]

I got my ECS A790GXM-A Black series more than 3 years ago, AM2+ with an Athlon X2 5200+ 2.7GHz... then Jan/2010 I got an Athlon II x3 440 3.0GHz... This year I got a new Bios version and here I am, glad with a Phenom II x6 1100T totally operational.

2x 2.7GHz = 5.4GHz (65w)
3x 3.0GHz = 9.0GHz (95w)
6x 3.3GHz =19,8GHz (125w)

No excuses. The motherboard TDP limit is 140w. So... room for overclock!
 
[citation][nom]gallovfc[/nom]I got my ECS A790GXM-A Black series more than 3 years ago, AM2+ with an Athlon X2 5200+ 2.7GHz... then Jan/2010 I got an Athlon II x3 440 3.0GHz... This year I got a new Bios version and here I am, glad with a Phenom II x6 1100T totally operational.2x 2.7GHz = 5.4GHz (65w)3x 3.0GHz = 9.0GHz (95w)6x 3.3GHz =19,8GHz (125w)No excuses. The motherboard TDP limit is 140w. So... room for overclock![/citation]

You've had a great run there and illustrated what made AMD such a great brand for many of us. Cheap prices, a great upgrade path and performance that isn't the best but good enough for the money.

But where to next? That motherboard has given you a great run but the 1100T is the end of the run. You now have to go into overpriced motherboards to get Bulldozer which are now on average more expensive than the Intel route. The upgrade path isn't certain anymore and the price advantage is gone with Intel offering cheaper at the lower end than an FX-8150.

It's now very difficult for an enthusiast not to buy into a cheaper motherboard and go for an i7 2600K and get not only more performance than AMD can offer in single and multi-threaded, but also fantastic over-clocking potential and great savings on power.

Apart from an answer like, you're happy with the 1100T for now (a processor I still rate very highly), I wonder what will you upgrade to next and why?
 
I am an AMD fan, a disappointed one but am still hopeful. I hope AMD prices their CPUs more competitively so that they will be at least more value for money. AMD fans please give AMD a chance and try your best to support them. At one time they beat the shit out of Intel, remember the Pentium D vs the AMD Athlon X2? With our support they could do it again.
YOU WILL DEFINITELY NOT WANT TO SEE AN INTEL DOMINATED CPU MARKET!!!
 
1st Intel was a few years ago incompetent they have to get the core desinger from AMD so all you guys who used a intel now it's basically a AMD Athlon desing. And the amd 8150 is nothing more then a 4 core cpu in all benchmarks
so lets wait for some new benchmark programms who used all cores than we can compare.
 
[citation][nom]not stuppid[/nom]1st Intel was a few years ago incompetent they have to get the core desinger from AMD so all you guys who used a intel now it's basically a AMD Athlon desing. And the amd 8150 is nothing more then a 4 core cpu in all benchmarksso lets wait for some new benchmark programms who used all cores than we can compare.[/citation]

looks like this AMD fanboi is a sore loser. but mostly a loser :)
 
Intel should sue Amd ... ... They came up with the idea for 10 gigahertz chips first.
 
a very dissapointing performance. not a bad chip, but considering this is a new flagship chip, it should perform much *I mean waaaay much better*
I love AMD for price/performance but now it seems like price - performance... 🙁((
hope they build something better soon so intel had some challenge to drop price or increasing perf
 
Love the statements about thermal headroom and die size as the excuse for not duplicating all functions. Make the chip bigger (I have plenty of space in my computer, make the paths smaller (20-30 nm or smaller), and never, ever share resources...ever. When AMD gets it right I will again buy, otherwise I will stay with my four year old computer. I have been waiting 4 years for AMD to put the ram, graphics, and CPU and most of the motherboard features on one circular ball with water/glycol running through it and they still can't deliver. No wonder their stock is five bucks.
 
I was looking for a cpu to play tetris at low res, this bulldozer fits the bill perfectly. Thanks Amd!
 
After seeing these reviews and being a former opinionated AMD fanboy from the early Athlon days, it pains me to say that I can't help but to think that AMD is pulling a "Pentium 4" style stunt with this new processor, meaning they are relying purely on software with CPU optimizations in order to pull ahead of the competition meanwhile neglecting any much needed improvements in the FPU or IPC, and lastly ramping up the clock speed in order to somewhat make up for any FPU or IPC deficiencies. I used to love it back then when I would look at intel vs AMD reviews back in the day and see how a slower clocked AMD Athlon CPU could easily outperform a much higher clocked intel Pentium 4 CPU. Now it seems the tables have turned since the Core 2 was released.

I seriously wonder how AMD could have missed the obvious hard lesson they were forced to learn back in the K6-2/3 vs the Pentium II /III days is that IPC and FPU muscle, regardless how trivial purpose it may seem to CPU engineers, always matters 100%.
As i've said back in the days of the Pentium 4, not every software developer is on key with utilizing a CPU's multi-threading or SIMD features which means there will always be non CPU optimized software that will truly expose a CPU's weakness. These reviews show exactly that.
 
so... is the conclution is the FX bulldozer is a failure? phenom IIx6 still better... and even still cant beat i5 2400?... really? then i rather back to my phenomII or change to intel i5?
 
The software in the market just doesn't use the full potential of the FX processors.

I'm glad by these results. I think AMD is catching up to Intel.
 
Amd Bulldoze much be really designing this only for their laptop platform I don't see how this
push out any sales for saving their desk (6bay) mini top boxes.

I even willing to say that's Walmart can't be pushing these crappy BD chips outta their stores they do have their limits. Then again Walmart is America icon for slave children labor of import cargo goods from other starving third world countries.

So I take that back. Amd are starting to show sign of having nothing more then greedy CEO's
on there board of staff. Damn when will AMD ever learn?!! They did the same thing with their re-branding ATi graphic cards but much more severity.
 
Well, after working with a server based on two of these, I'd say they're very good chips for the price. The R715 I just worked with performs faster and has twice the memory (64GB) to the equal priced Intel based R710. To get equal server performance, you'd have to spend $2000 more. That's where the Bulldozer shines: server duty, especially on file server or virtual host duty. They aren't good for desktop chips, but they have their place. I'm thinking AMD designed it for servers and just worked it into their desktop lineup. They'll make more money on the server chips.
 
Run same amount of ram on AMD system as the Intel system. Then run tests again. It's obvious your biased.
 
it does not work,

for example

shogun 2 total war, sooth on medium - high

rome total war (old game only can be run on 1 core) medium -high, run like dogd dinner, even my ols scraptop (the bane of my life) runs in better, the turbo boost simply does not "kick in" so i have a core running rome at 1.9GHZ while the other 3 do nothing. The "automated system" does nothing, its too dumb to work it out, AMD need to simply relesed a turbo core "button" programme to engange the turbo core system. Its a simple idea sounds great but so far has make a real shitter of it all.
 
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